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RE: MCD Race Runner - 3/2/2007 1:09:47 PM   
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I'm starting to roll up my coins... got $210 so far... ...still lots more to go yet... Have my eyes set on the MCD Baja 1000....

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 7/31/2007 4:52:18 AM   
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Well, I finally managed to move into my new place and had a little bit of time to fix up the MCD Racerunner. I had cracked the inner rear shock mount a while back, and the poor thing has been sitting on the shelf feeling broken and neglected for the past 5 months. 0.0

So, I emailed largescaleRC.com and ordered up a new rear tower, and a few other fun parts as well. After a fun fiasco of the parts all getting shipped to the wrong address, I finally managed to track down my stuff, and the car got redone tonight.

First of all, having to swap a rear inner shock tower is a major PITA!!! You have to dissasemble and remove the entire rear gearbox, and the upper susension arms/shocks. UHG.

Oh well. I was adding more stuff, so it needed to be done anyways.

I ordered up a set of the new MCD aluminum fuel tank tower connection plates. Uppon opening up the package, I was struck with how incredibly flimsy and cheap the looked. They are 1/2 the thickness of the original plastic braces, and are just stamped out of sheet aluminum. Definately nothing to write home about here. To continue the theme of dissapointment, imagine my surprise when I discovered that they don't even fit correctly!!! That's right, the rear hole (that mounts to the tower) is drilled in a different spot then the stock brace. So, off to the scap pile they went, and back on went the original plastic bits.

Next up, I rebuilt the shocks, filling them with 20wt oil, and adding the new MCD soft red progressive springs, and the King Cobra Racing alloy shock forks to both the front and rear ends. The springs look sharp in the red, and seem to start off much softer then the stock black springs. Interestingly, however, they are also 1/2" or so longer then the stock springs. Makes for a tight fit. The KCR shock forks look sweet and are seriously BEEFY. This is the 3rd KCR upgrade I've added to my Racerunner, and I have been very impressed with the quality of their parts. The forks are wider then the stock plastic bits however, so the springs must be installed before the shock forks are mounted. No more simply just sliding the springs on and off!

Lastly, I rebuild the rear suspension, and mounted the upper arms to the front upper hole on the rear hubs. This mod adds about 10mm to the wheelbase, and also straightens up the angle of the rear drive shafts so it runs more centered between the shock fork.

Sadly, my reciever pack was dead however, so testing will have to wait for another day.

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 7/31/2007 10:56:53 PM   
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And a few pics to go with the above post.

Couldn't get them to upload last night for some reason.............

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 8/24/2007 10:03:20 PM   
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Well, I've had the chance to run about 4 tanks of fuel through the MCD lately, and really give all the upgrades a solid work out.

The combination of the long travel front end, the soft red progressive springs, and the swap to 20wt oil in all 4 shocks has made a night and day difference in performance. The car is much more sure footed now, stays far more level through the rough stuff, and lands from drops, ledges and jumps far better. The front suspension on the Racerunner was always a bit of a low point, IMO, and this new set-up completely fixes any problems. The overall suspension is still not as capable or smooth as the HPI Baja 5B, but it is close now (and a world above the FG's).

The KCR alloy shock forks have been working great, and look trick, but a quick tear down today revealled that they are actually contacting the driveshafts. This is more pronounced at the front end, but is occurring on the rear also. BOO!!!!

My other surprise, was that after burning through almost 2 full tanks back to back over a 2.5 hour period at the track a few days ago, I managed to bend both rear shock mount bolts (the 4mm x 80mm upper ones). >.< Dammit........something tells me Home Depot or Canadian Tire won't carry something like this........................

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 8/25/2007 12:12:31 AM   
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just watch the alloy shock forks mate heard that they break if u have a bad landing of a jump was advised to stay with the plastic shock forks for that reason

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 8/31/2007 3:00:59 PM   
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whizzy: Thanx for the heads-up........though I'm not sure how you could break these forks.........they're pretty beefy!

Saddly I've been having a heck of a time trying to find a replacement M4 x 80mm cap screw for the rear upper suspension mounts. No one in Calgary carries M4 hardware that long, and the only places I've found that do are in the USA.........and refuse to ship to Canada!

>.<

ARG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, instead of getting to buy some replacements at ~$1 each, I get to order the "MCD" brand ones for $13/pair. Enter swearing here.

And now I get to sit around while the tail end of summer slips away, and my parts are floating around in the mail. My fingers are crossed that they at least get mailed to the propper address this time.......................

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 8/31/2007 4:16:15 PM   
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what size and length? I bought out a Metric hardware store, i might have some that size, i'll be happy to look for you, i'll ship to Cnda for ya!

M4 by 80mm, didn't see that. How long is 80mm in us terms.

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 8/31/2007 4:18:39 PM   
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Hey Bribeguy I have two packs of thows in stock if you want. $13.10 cdn a pack of two plus shipping and gst. You would probably get them with in a week. You could also try to straighten them.

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 8/31/2007 4:22:18 PM   
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80mm is 3.15 inches but they can be a little longer.

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 8/31/2007 6:13:44 PM   
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it not that the fork breaks its the shock above it people here in the uk that have used them have went back to the original plastic ones due to damage to the shock internals and surrounding area remember the stress that was being loaded onto the plastic fork has to go somewhere now u have the alloy ones

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 9/1/2007 3:18:33 AM   
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whizzy: That makes more sense to me. I've heard of people snapping the MCD shock shafts. Hopefully I'm not that hardcore! (fingers crossed........)

zap713: shoot me an email (mark.themark@gmail.com) and I'll take a pack of those of your hands. How much for shipping to Calgary (Alberta, Canada, T2C-1A9)? Do ya take paypal?

No Moa: If ya have anything this size, lemme know too.

Thanx!

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 9/2/2007 2:53:17 PM   
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I hope I don't beat mine that bad either if I get one.

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 9/2/2007 4:04:24 PM   
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Bribeuy,

After having the MCD for a while I wanted you thoughts on a couple questions. I am thinking of getting a racerunner and a Baja 1000.

What engine are you currently running and is it enough? If you could what would you run in it?

What would be the upgrades I should get out of the box? i.e. things that break first?

Have you had the opportunity to run many different gear ratios?

What would you say approx. top speed you have been able to obtain?

What tires would you recommend?

I appreciate your help,

Matt



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RE: MCD Race Runner - 9/2/2007 4:45:14 PM   
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mnorman367,

Hopefully I can answer some questions for you.

I am currently running a stock Zenoah 26cc engine. I think it is plenty of power for the MCD Racerunner. Torque is definately not the weakspot of the MCD, so I don't think dropping in a larger 28-31cc motor would be benificial (unless you wanted to run some extremely tall gearing). Running a bit on the rich side, the 26cc with stock gearing has crazy low end power but the top end speed of the car is a bit on the slow side. Not having access to radar/speed trap equipment I can't give you any hard numbers, but I would guess it to be in the 25-30mph range. I found after about 2 tanks of gas, the gears started to wear in a bit, however, and the driveline got alot smoother, and I gained another 5mph in top speed or so.

Eventually I opted to swap the stock 24/39 pinion/spur combo, and drop in a 30/33 gear set. BIG IMPROVEMENT!!! I would definately recomend this. I got a big gain in top end (the car will keep up to a Baja 5B with a 29cc engine and a X-Can exhaust), and there is still enough low end to break the tires free on any surface. The nice thing with the MCD, is that there is ALOT of tuning options with the gears. For example, now that I'm running 30/33, I can swap them, and run 33/30 if I want even more top end. I can also play with the 24/25 layshaft gears to make subtle changes also (24/25 vs. 25/24). Swapping the pinion/spur takes all of about 35 seconds too, which is nice.

For tires, I've been running the stock Racerunner "Tractor" tires. They are fine for bashing, but their overall traction kinda sucks in all but the softest dirt/sand. I have also had a big issue with chunks tearing out of the tires (though this did seem to effect my mind more then the performance of the vehicle...). Don't get me wrong, the tires are fine, and I'm glad I have mine, but it does make me want to try something else as well. I'm considering picking up a set of the MCD/KCR Multistud tires at some point to try out. I'd love to try and run the wheels/tires from the HPI Baja 5B, but I don't think anyone makes a FG to 24mm adaptor.

The car has proven to be very durable over the past year of running, and the parts I have broken have been minimal. My first big damage was a shattered rear wing, 2 broken shock forks, and a broken front bulkhead. This was the result of doing multiple 20'+ jumps with some very poor landings while it was about -5 out (celcius). The only other things I've broke have been a rear shock tower, and bent the rear shock bolts. For a year of hard running, I think this is pretty good (since in my opinion my first batch of damage was a result of tempature and reckless driving).

If I were to get another Racrunner, my "must-have" set up would be:

26cc engine (zenoah or CY) - ported if you can justify the cost
Samba racerunner tuned pipe or X-Can (both will fit under the stock body unlike the Jetpro pipe)
30/33 gearing
Long travel front end suspension kit
Red MCD progressive shock springs
10-30wt oil in the shocks

I currently have all of this (except the exhaust, mine is still a stock muffler) on my car and it's great. The longer front end (stock on the Baja 1000) makes the car 10x better, and so the the softer red springs and lighter shock oil (the car comes with about 50wt oil I believe). Adding additional aluminum parts and stuff is fun, but definately not neccisarry. I say leave it stock untill something breaks, then look at upgrading. While I've added some alloy bits to my car, I do have to say, I don't know if anyof them where worth the money.

KCR Alloy shock forks: Super beefy, look killer. They're wider then the stock forks, though, so they don't fit the suspension arm mount tightly, and they don't allow you to slide the springs off without unthreading them. Also, they rub on the driveshafts.

KCR Alloy front brace: Looks killer, hasn't done a dmn thing except look good.

KCR fuel cap: This one I like. Looks great, functions great, and adds a vent line to the fuel system.

MCD aluminum fuel tank tower connection plates: Don't even fit on the car the holes are so badly off.

Overall, though, I have been quite happy with my car. It's fun to drive, durable, and has a lot of tuning and upgrading potential. I started this thread with the build up/write up of my car, so you can sit down and weed through it for alot more info. Let me know if you have any additional questions I can answer for you.

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RE: MCD Race Runner - 9/2/2007 6:10:25 PM   
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