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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Sup... - 6/11/2008 9:27:57 PM   
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Status: online 		I took pictures of original center fin that i made after enlarging the plans, well you can see that fin wasn't quite the right size for this model. As lockheed had to extend height of the 749's fin by 3 feet to accommodate on 1049s, i had to same too on my model. I even had to add 1" to the lower fins also.



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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Sup... - 6/11/2008 10:43:50 PM   
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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/12/2008 2:15:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		The irony is that is what the wing would have looked like if you' put acetone on it...
Well, it would have been more on the clear side rather than white Glad you were
successful in cleaning off what ever it was that had your surface contaminated.

It would have made all of us very sad to see you have to recut that wing. You are
doing fine! Definately moving forward at an exceptional pace. George named you
the "Timex" builder.... Takes a lick'n and keeps on tick'n.


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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/12/2008 4:00:02 AM   
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Status: online 		Yeah cutting new would have been other way to tackle this problem but i don't have that resource anymore at the moment, i wish i had it so no biggie. Anyways i am glad to move ahead on the build.

Hey who said scratch building was over night or week's process. hehe
I am good an happy with my speed specially with limited resources i have. I hope to finish it with in next few months and do maiden, but if takes this season on the building table and fly next spring, so be it...Can't rush on these type of projects.

This tells me , i will be making my own cowls for it too now, guy in Germany is tied up with other projects and can't do them for next 3-4 months at latest.

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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/12/2008 2:07:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Props4ever i will be making my own cowls for it too now, guy in Germany
is tied up with other projects and can't do them for next 3-4 months at latest.


A few images with enough surface and shape detail to permit you to fill in the blanks on what
you said earlier was a minimum detailed three view drawing. Hot wiring this in sections will be
something you can do on your own with little more than a transformer, a hot wire bow, variable
speed regulator from Harbor Freight and a good copying machine...

With this style cowl flap you don't have major mechanical issues in articulating them. The photo
at the bottom has the flaps at full extension. There is a unique "feathered" in-flight prop image
below as well. Something I was not expecting to find : )

These should provide proper angles from which with enlargement will permit templates to be
cut from phenolic sheet with scissors then you can hot wire blue and white polystrene foam.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/6/0/0/0943006.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/1/5/9/1309951.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/8/7/3/1289378.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/8/9/1280983.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/0/3/1276304.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/5/1/4/0939415.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/8/3/8/0919838.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/9/1/9/0861919.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/7/1/3/0676317.jpg
























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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/12/2008 3:06:26 PM   
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For some time now I have looked for a decent three view from which you could derive your cowl
and nacelle shapes which would permit you to create them easily with the use of Styrene. I've not
purchased any resources, I have looked patiently online with little more than this as a result.

Back some time ago Lockheed's legal eagles were chasing down modeling companies demanding
a % of their annual sales in exchange for use of their intelligent properties (aka designs). I thought
I had a fabulous detailed three view of the Constillation in my archives, but no...wasn't to be found
in a reasonable time so I gave up.

Do you have a more detailed three view than this?



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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/12/2008 11:25:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ed, Seems that feathered engines on the Connies were somewhat common. Here are a few pictures my Dad took while in the Navy flying in a WV2 (Over 4000 hours). A couple "Normal" engines and a couple feathered on various flights. Early 1960's

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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/12/2008 11:35:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Remind me to never fly with your dad...

If that was an economy measure in an engine that more often
than not caught fire while staring, I think once they fired up I'd
leave them running.


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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/12/2008 11:54:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, as I understand it those were engine or engine system failures. They didnt shut down good running engines

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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/13/2008 1:30:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sammy:

I have a file to share with you. Its a computer generated Connie with free software.
Software is free for the downloading and I'll send you the image file that can be
broken down to what ever degree you want to create the cowls, etc.

You can view it as a wire frame as well.


Here is the Connie file:

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4dd14711320134d36894a68923302afc

Here's where anyone can down load the software for free:

http://www.google.com/sketchup/product/gsu.html


Tip: A great way to get started with SketchUp is to watch a few of our Video Tutorials.
1. New to SketchUp (3 minutes)
2. Drawing shapes in SketchUp (6 minutes)
3. View our more video tutorials

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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/13/2008 3:03:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FliteMetal

Sammy:

For some time now I have looked for a decent three view from which you could derive your cowl
and nacelle shapes which would permit you to create them easily with the use of Styrene. I've not
purchased any resources, I have looked patiently online with little more than this as a result.

Do you have a more detailed three view than this?



Hey Ed,

Yes i do but i can't seems to find it now in my archive's CD, my friend Richie from Switzerland send it to me and it was the most detailed 3 vies i have come across then.
Currently i have these also and didn't wanted to send you as you asked form sometime back. Let me see if i can still find them or email Richie to see if he can send them to me again.

Few days ago i found out that there is one retired TCA pilot in my area who has flown 10.000hrs on TCA's S Connies, when i talked to him on phone he said, he has logged many hours on CF-TGE #405 that we had here in Toronto. Once i get this model in decent shape i will go and meet with him and exchange his stories of TGE. I asked him about this engine out situations that S Connie were famous for, he said yes it's true and he even said this aircraft was so good that with light weight and less fuel it would fly only on one engine also for sometime!, but full rudder and some aileron had to be implemented though.

Thanks for posting all this neat information on the engine cowls for me, soon as my glassing is done and fuselage, i will start to work on the cowls.
Hey George, sorry but i will have to do flaps after the cowls now as i think these will take longer to do. Since i am only one making this model physically i think it will be end of this season before it will complete.



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RE: Scratch building 105" W/S Su... - 6/13/2008 3:13:17 AM   
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I started to sand the both outer wings initially, i found that i had missed one area on top of left outer wing that needed to be filled before glassing, so i went and mixed resin with silica into thick paste and laid on that depression.
I did same with right outer wing as it also needed to be filled after the recovery and also applied this mixture to the one of the tip tanks.
It's amazing how much time can be saved when heat gun is used to speed up drying process. Now that these parts are dried up, i will do final sanding tonight or tomorrow so these could be finished.

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