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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/11/2006 6:47:40 AM

Sharpy01

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..... in bed with? Repremand? LOL

I'm afraid that you did a very good job of proving me right. It was your friends and associates that seemed to have turned on you, bud?

The friends I made while on the board are still my friends. Not only that, but a few others, that didn't see eye to eye with me back then, now openly show respect. No knives in my back. ..................

I actually feel sorry for you. Any good you may have accomplished has long since been lost in this endless need to bang heads. Personally, I would be feeling pretty isolated if I was stripped of my ability to participate in the hobby that I enjoy so much. What you never seemed to understand is that it was never about "ME or "YOU" or "What I Accomplished" or "Winning"........................ it was about flying model airplanes............ fun........ escaping from the real world for a few minutes once in a while.

Maybe some day you will figure that out, put you hat in your hand, eat some humble pie ........ and find out what it would take to once again, have that opportunity for escape.

Good luck.................... turn out the lights when you leave.

(in reply to Morison)

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/11/2006 2:17:17 PM

HangmaN187

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At least I was invited to the Chatham event to participate anyway possible. Mr Pratt was told to stay home because no one wanted him or his buddies there. That speaks volumns Pratt..

Damm it look's like he must have a lot of friends according the subject line?

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/11/2006 2:25:24 PM

Jason Holdaway

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looks like mustang one has another username! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/11/2006 4:08:48 PM

Morison

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jason Holdaway
looks like mustang one has another username! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jason, That's simply not fair.
HangmaN187 has posts in an unrelated topic, and I suspect he is a legit poster.
I'd like to think that we can give mustang one enough credit to say that he learned form his last attempt at posting under an assumed identity. As comical as it was, I doubt we'll see a repeat performance.
It is really unwise to discount anyone that supports the actions and 'cause' of someone you disagree with. There is little doubt that mustang one feels wrongly persicuted, and that is a situation that people tend to sympathise with quickly. I am sure if you were to listen to mustang one's version of the story, I am sure you'd feel sympathetic.
Given time .. actions and attitudes will leaed people to the right conclusions. (As we are seeing happening these days)

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/11/2006 4:42:08 PM

Jason Holdaway

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yeah, I guess your right. The super low post count threw me.

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/11/2006 4:45:25 PM

Jason Holdaway

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Morison
to mustang one's version of the story, I am sure you'd feel sympathetic.

I'd love to hear it! If he tells it, will you put it in the mag? Seeing as you'll have all those extra pages that the advertisers will no longer be using........

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/12/2006 12:30:51 AM

HangmaN187

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quote]ORIGINAL: HangmaN187

At least I was invited to the Chatham event to participate anyway possible. Mr Pratt was told to stay home because no one wanted him or his buddies there. That speaks volumes Pratt..

Damm it look's like he must have a lot of frie[nds according the subject line?
[/quote]

I was just commenting on a statement that was made in a different part of this thread. It reminds me of a few days ago when my little girl told one of her friends that she could no longer play in her sand box! and guys she is 7.

It is just hard to believe that a few people who have done so much for the hobby can sound just this stupid and petty.. It leaves little doubt why organizations like IMAC want nothing at all to do with a Canadian Chapter. If one of the things you based your opinion of the current state of the hobby in Canada is from this forum we are not looking to smart here guys.

And no i don't know the full story and don't care. We fly Toy Planes (flames begin) we are not curing cancer or fixing world famine. You need to all get back to what got you involved in the hobby in the first place. Get some fuel. Charge up your trainer, pretend it's you first time at the field and try to remember why you do this HOBBY.

TY morison i am not a ghost poster..

I am just 1 of the silent 99% that do only get maac for the insurance.

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/12/2006 12:43:08 AM

Mentor34

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quote:

ORIGINAL: HangmaN187

At least I was invited to the Chatham event to participate anyway possible. Mr Pratt was told to stay home because no one wanted him or his buddies there. That speaks volumns Pratt..

Damm it look's like he must have a lot of friends according the subject line?

Two things to address here.

1)...... I'm guessing Hangman is quoting Mustang One's post

2)...... There WAS a phonecall asking Dennis, John and Chris not to show up. I won't
mention names, but one person was pressured by a SELECT FEW to make the request.
Dennis rejected the request and the MAAC executive was called to address the issue.
The Board called the Chatham Aeronauts and warned them that some of the executive
would be attending the event and if any CURRENT MAAC MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING
was denied to fly, the club would lose it's charter. They were also warned that Mustang
One was not allowed to fly at the event because he is no longer a member in good
standing and would not have insurance coverage through MAAC. If he was caught
flying at the field, The club would lose it's charter.............
Dennis and John did fly at the event. Chris could not make it because of work
schedueling.

That is the details as I have heard and seen.

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/12/2006 1:06:47 AM

Mentor34

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Here is a copy of an email I just received. This is one I CANNOT GIVE SUPPORT TO. This whole situation with Palmer and Mustang One, CAC and the rest has gone WAAAYYYY too far. No OFFENCE to Frank Tiano, but contacts with Frank and others would have nothing to do with SCALE in MAAC. It's two different entities. I think Palmer is great at taking photos and he spends alot of time doing it at events, but it raises two questions that come to mind.

1)....... Where would his loyalty stand if he is asked again to be the photog at "TOP GUN" or
attending a MAAC sponsored "SCALE" event in Canada....?

2)....... He's never shown an interest in scale chair before. With the animosity between him and
Dennis, is this just a retaliation ploy to get even with Dennis.....?

I know Palmer and he has shown some deep dedication to the hobby at times, but I feel his dedication is obscurred, mis-directed and very retalitory in the last year or so to some of the members that were once considered friends. Sorry Palmer JMHO. I can't support ya on this one.

After giving it some thought, and talking to Frank Klenk (our Assistant Zone Director) I have decided NOT to run for the position of Southwest Zone Director.

I will be supporting Bryan Hewitt for this position.

I will be running for a position on the Scale Committee. With my contact with Frank Tiano (Top Gun) and others in the scale community I feel I could do a good job here.

I’m asking YOUR Clubs membership for there support.

Either by send a person from YOUR club to the Zone Meeting with proxies from your club, or sending me the proxies in my name.

On a different note:

Last year I attended several club meetings and gave a SLIDE SHOW of pictures I took at Top Gun, Florida Jets, and other big events.

I’m willing to do this again this year. The big difference is that in the past the Zone Dir. paid for my gas to get to your club’s meeting.

So IF your club wishes me to attend an meeting to give the slide show, I will need the club to pay for my GAS MONEY that is all, no other charge.

Palmer Johnson

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/12/2006 2:20:48 AM

prangled prop

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mentor34

quote:

ORIGINAL: HangmaN187

At least I was invited to the Chatham event to participate anyway possible. Mr Pratt was told to stay home because no one wanted him or his buddies there. That speaks volumns Pratt..

Damm it look's like he must have a lot of friends according the subject line?

Two things to address here.

1)...... I'm guessing Hangman is quoting Mustang One's post

2)...... There WAS a phonecall asking Dennis, John and Chris not to show up. I won't
mention names, but one person was pressured by a SELECT FEW to make the request.
Dennis rejected the request and the MAAC executive was called to address the issue.
The Board called the Chatham Aeronauts and warned them that some of the executive
would be attending the event and if any CURRENT MAAC MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING
was denied to fly, the club would lose it's charter. They were also warned that Mustang
One was not allowed to fly at the event because he is no longer a member in good
standing and would not have insurance coverage through MAAC. If he was caught
flying at the field, The club would lose it's charter.............
Dennis and John did fly at the event. Chris could not make it because of work
schedueling.

That is the details as I have heard and seen.

LIES LIES LIES
If you are interested in the truth Call Norm McLellan If you are not interested in the truth keep reading this hog wash.. I guess this guy is tired of slamming Chuck and is not taking aim at Plamer. I can not beleive you people tolerate this crap.

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/12/2006 3:07:05 AM

can773

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mentor34

2)...... There WAS a phonecall asking Dennis, John and Chris not to show up. I won't
mention names, but one person was pressured by a SELECT FEW to make the request.
Dennis rejected the request and the MAAC executive was called to address the issue.
The Board called the Chatham Aeronauts and warned them that some of the executive
would be attending the event and if any CURRENT MAAC MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING
was denied to fly, the club would lose it's charter. They were also warned that Mustang
One was not allowed to fly at the event because he is no longer a member in good
standing and would not have insurance coverage through MAAC. If he was caught
flying at the field, The club would lose it's charter.............
Dennis and John did fly at the event. Chris could not make it because of work
schedueling.

That is the details as I have heard and seen.

I dont think its anywhere within MAAC's authority to tell any club/club exec who can and cannot fly at their club. If a club chooses to not allow people to fly then that is their choice. That is just BS posturing on the BOD's part. So does this mean that clubs with capped membership will lose their charters because members in good standing are not allowed to fly there?

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/12/2006 3:59:01 AM

Propworn

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OK Mentor you’re getting things third and fourth hand and things tend to get misconstrued so from a first hand side I can tell you it’s not exactly as you have stated.

First I contacted the CD for the Chatham event when the Fried Few started rumors that if John, Chris and I attended the event we would be escorted from the property (another one of their many claims that have never panned out). During the conversation with the CD he stated his concern was a confrontation between the two sides which might reflect on the Chatham Club. I discussed the possibility that if he could not resolve it from his end that John, I and Chris might consider passing on attending the event. I assured him that on our part there would be no confrontation as that would reflect on our club. After talking it over with John, Chris and members of the MAAC Executive we came to the conclusion that there was no way in hell that a non MAAC member and a few of his cronies would ever keep any of us from rightfully attending a MAAC event period. It would be a foolish president to set. Later when the CD of the Chatham event did phone me and asked if I did not mind he would take me up on my offer of not attending I explained our decision and the reasoning behind it. He said he could not guarantee there would not be a confrontation from a certain few and he just did not want anything to go on that would reflect on their event. I told him that I had discussed it with all concerned and the consensus was that on our part we would not let the Fried Few sway our right to attend any event. If there were any confrontation it would not come from our group. Other than a few incidences on the part of the Fried Few which in no way reflects on the Chatham Club this was no different than attending any other event.

The Chatham Club in the past has put on a first class event and hospitality of the club has always been one of the best. This year was no different. The President of the club made sure that Kevin McGrath the MAAC VP, our ZD Bryan Hewitt, Assistant ZD Frank Klenk and the rest of us were more than welcome. Even at the dinner later our table which all of us were seated at the back were first to be served our meal.

As to threatening the clubs charter I cannot comment other than my understanding was the MAAC presence was to support and bolster the clubs event.

Mentor PLEASE do not associate the actions of these Fried Few with Chatham Club. Remember they tried the same tactics to involve our club.

As to Palmer running for a position on the Scale Committee as a member in good standing he is entitled. Of the 10 or so members he would only be one vote hardly in a position to cause any kind of problem. Even if he were to run for Chairman remember the Chair does not even have a vote unless there is a tie.

Let me say that the Scale Committee this year has voted unanimously to clear up most of the outstanding items from the past few years and for my part I will make sure a report with these recommendations make it to the AGM.

We will see what happens at the AZM. That is for the membership to decide. If they see fit to nominate me to the scale committee and as scale chair then that is fine by me. The Scale Committee chooses their chairman unless there is only one nominated then the Board of Directors make the final decision.

Dennis Pratt

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RE: Chatham Contest August 19th - 8/12/2006 4:16:51 AM

Mentor34

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quote:

ORIGINAL: can773

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mentor34

2)...... There WAS a phonecall asking Dennis, John and Chris not to show up. I won't
mention names, but one person was pressured by a SELECT FEW to make the request.
Dennis rejected the request and the MAAC executive was called to address the issue.
The Board called the Ch