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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/28/2006 11:54:03 PM   
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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 3:42:52 PM   
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Like many others I'm sure, I am very interested in this design. I have been yearning for a pusher prop kit version of the Bobcat for quite a while. I was personally hoping for something around .40-.60 size, and I don't really care to mess with retracts, but this design you are doing is probably the closest thing yet.

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 5:40:59 PM   
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I have been yearning for a pusher prop kit version of the Bobcat for quite a while. I was personally hoping for something around .40-.60 size, and I don't really care to mess with retracts, but this design you are doing is probably the closest thing yet.


Thanks, but the Jett 90L engine selection is for the prototype (mine). The plane will fly on a .60-.75 size engine. Just have to move the hardware around (servos, receiver, battery, etc). The Nitromodels version of this bird is of comparable size/weight to the kit I'm making now and it flys on a 0.60-0.75 motor just fine. The .90 size upgrade is for the speed fanatic in all of us . To convert the "insert name here" to a fixed gear would be easy. Just replace the .25 in gear place with a solid one. Now that I think about it.......I'll include it as a mod option.

Thanks,

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quote:

To convert the "insert name here"


One more thing....

I've been busy designing this bird but have no idea what do I call it, so I'll let RCU do it.

What should I name this plane?

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 6:06:56 PM   
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One more thing....

I've been busy designing this bird but have no idea what do I call it, so I'll let RCU do it.

What should I name this plane?



Ummmmm...

Mod-Cat


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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 6:09:40 PM   
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Personally, I'm not that much of a speed freak. I just really love the design and looks of the Bobcat. I would definitely want to do a smaller engine on it, as long as it will still fly nicely. Thing is, I can't get a "standard" engine such as an OS or SuperTigre in a reverse rotating shaft that I know of, which brings up the whole issue of pusher prop selection again.

Concerning a name for the plane, here are a few suggestions off the top of my head. I incorporated your name into a couple since it is your project.

MRM-Jet 90
Mod-Jet
ModStreak
Whiplash
Backlash
Rogue Wave

Anyways, looks like you are doing an awesome job and I look forward to seeing how it turns out.

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 6:42:03 PM   
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I forgot to mention, per my agreement with BVM I can't use the word "cat" in the name, but I like the suggestions so far. Keep'em coming!


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Thing is, I can't get a "standard" engine such as an OS or SuperTiger in a reverse rotating shaft that I know of, which brings up the whole issue of pusher prop selection again



True that you can't get the OS or Super Tiger .60/.70 in a reverse rotating engine but Tower carries 3 blade pusher props for these engine sizes OR you can buy a Jett .60/.75 and throughly enjoy the airframe . All the engines are hand made. Also, on average, the Jett series turns 3,000-4,000 RPM above its same size OS or Supertiger counterpart. If you are a die-hard OS or SuperTiger fan just using the Jett muffler on these engines can increase the RPM by 1,000+.

This should be about the time Bob27 chimes in to tell you about the benefits of the Jett .

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 7:03:31 PM   
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I've looked at Jett engines before, but haven't actually used one. I'm sure they are very nice and very powerful, but like I said, I'm not a speed freak. I just really like how the plane looks. I don't really think that twice the price of an engine for 4,000 extra RPMs is worth it for me if I'm not wanting to fly the plane as fast as it can go. If it will fly semi-fast (which I consider to be around 80-100 MPH) and handle well on a standard engine, that's more than enough to satisfy me. But then again, if I do end up doing this project (assuming it turns out well and you are satisfied with it), I may just save up and get a reverse rotating Jett just to make the propeller selection and mounting easier, since you are designing if for that type of engine.

Another question while I'm thinking about it. I've only flown basic sport planes so far. How do models such as this one fly? I'm sure they are faster than sport models, but I'm talking about if they are really sensitive to inputs. My main concern is actually how they behave for landing, as in their general handling and if they slow down much.

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 7:06:49 PM   
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"Feline Flyer"

Do you want to keep the "name" in the same category as the "Bobcat"?

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 7:23:12 PM   
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I know there are those that would consider such a thing a waste of the plane.



Not at all. The reason we build kits is to make a plane that meets out specifications. Whatever they may be.

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My main concern is actually how they behave for landing, as in their general handling and if they slow down much.


You ask the right questions. I'll give you that . It's not a beginners airplane, but if you fly sport types this should be an easy transition. Needless to say this plane was designed for speed, BUT it will also handle very well in the landing pattern. To further explain: I have added 1 degree of washout at the wingtip to warn the pilot of an on-comming stall. The controls will be come "mushy" and instruct the pilot to add more power. The reasoning behind such a shallow washout angle is I wanted the aircraft to perform just as well inverted as it does upright. This should allow the pilot to do basic acrobatics without the aircraft righting itself during every maneuver. Another upgrade from previous ARF version is the introduction of flaps. This feature will allow for: 1. steeper approach angles, 2. drastically slower approach speeds, and 3. The "crow" landing configuration. The crow landing configuration is where the flaps are at full "down" deflection adding lift and the aileron are "up" behaving like spoilers. Preliminary tests show that it will land more like a sport plane and I will confirm this during the flight test stage.

Thanks for showing so much interest,

Mods

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 7:27:17 PM   
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"Feline Flyer"

Do you want to keep the "name" in the same category as the "Bobcat"?


I thought about that to aid marketing but I'm open to anything. "Feline Flyer" not bad


quote:

MRM


I didn't think of a company name either. Sounds like I have one now: "MRM Models"

Thanks Jinzo.

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 8:38:25 PM   
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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/29/2006 9:22:24 PM   
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Excellent work Mods!
I'll be keeping an eye on your progress through the prototype phases for sure.

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/30/2006 12:26:02 PM   
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Looks great mods, will keep following this design thru. As for a name only thing this early that came to mind was silly-easy but

MPP-V1 (Mod's Pusher Plane version 1) had to throw it out there

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 8/30/2006 5:09:27 PM   
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I forgot to mention, per my agreement with BVM I can't use the word "cat" in the name, but I like the suggestions so far. Keep'em coming!

Mods


I like Bobs suggestion so why not make it
Mod-Kat

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