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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/10/2006 10:39:10 PM   
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Looking sweet! The hinge design is really cool. I'll have to keep it in mind and maybe try modding a plane one day using that.

Relating to what Sparhawk said, I too would like to be on the pre-order list, once you start making one that is. The project is still far from completion, I'm sure, since you still have to prototype it and likely change a few things.

Keep up the awesome work!

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/11/2006 3:52:17 AM   
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Thanks guys. I am starting a "pre-order" list but please understand that it will be at least Jan 07 before I can start production. The engine will not be here for another two weeks , but this is actually good because it gives me time to evaluate the wing design and make corrections. Most of the exterior CAD work is done and I'm waiting on the engine to complete the fuse. Talking with some Solidworks drivers at work, I've learned quite a few new building techniques. These techniques will greatly increase the clarity and CPU efficiency of the file. Presently, the the wing file is so large that it takes 20-30 sec to load . I incorporated the new techniques in the stab and elevator and it drastically reduced the build time (5 days vs 1 month for the wing). I'm going to redraw the wing as well in the mean time.

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/12/2006 1:02:58 AM   
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Hey Mod:

I am highly interested. Add me to your pre-order list. My 2 emails are: timandchoc757@yahoo.com and timothy.walker@hs.utc.com

I am in Connecticut. Let me know what is needed. Hey, I have a degree in Mechnical Engineering (Bachelor's). You have pretty imressive skills! I like the fine art of designing your own airplane. I love ARFs but it is something about a beautifully designed kit!

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/12/2006 3:03:41 AM   
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Hey Mod:

Add me to your pre-order list. My 2 emails are: timandchoc757@yahoo.com and timothy.walker@hs.utc.com

I am in Connecticut. Let me know what is needed. Hey, I have a degree in Mechnical Engineering (Bachelor's). You have pretty imressive skills! I like the fine art of designing your own airplane. I love ARFs but it is something about a beautifully designed kit!



Hey thanks! How are your Solidworks skills? Also, you might want to PM me your email addresses from now on unless you want a whole bunch of spam.

You're on the list,

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/17/2006 6:16:11 AM   
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The new wing model is coming out great. The plans are looking much sharper and the curves are a lot cleaner (figures 1 & 2). Also made one major improvement: removed all washout from the wingtips! Fear not, I found a better alternative. I found it very difficult to keep the same degrees of washout at the wingtip because of the way the wing is constructed (figure 3). I had to cut off the wing tip only to glue it on back on to the wing trailing edge after the aileron is completed and hope it remained the same . Once the tip was glued on there would be no way of accurately checking if the degree of washout. The solution was to use a progressive airfoil.

The way it is assembled will be identical and the wing root will have the same symmetrical (SYM) airfoil as before, but the wingtip will be a semi-symetical (SSYM) airfoil of my own design (figure 4-wingtip airfoil). The shape of the airfoil will geometrically progress from SYM to SSYM the full length of the wing (figure 5). The SSYM airfoil will create more lift than the SYM airfoil, thus causing it to stall later. This will produce the same results as the traditional !QUOT!twisted wing!QUOT! washout method (the controls will become mushy when the wing root stalls, alerting the pilot to add power) but without the headache of using jigs or twisting. Everything is built flat in the building board and when it comes off it's ready to glass and paint (or cover). Should be done with this within the week and the engine should be here this week . Then I can start Phase 2; making the .dxf laser cutter files.

More to come,

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/17/2006 7:51:44 AM   
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That is a very unique way to substitute for washout. Good job!

Speaking of covering the plane, are you designing it with one method more in mind than another? If so, which? I have never done a fabric covering on a plane, though I can't imagine it being too difficult. However, I would think that it would be heavier than a plastic film covering. Now that I'm thinking about covering, I'm already starting to scheme up ideas for a covering pattern/paint job, and I haven't even settled on the scheme for the plane I'm currently building!

Anyways, keep up the awesome work. It will be nice to see a full 3D rendering once you have the SolidWorks modeling complete.

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/17/2006 5:03:31 PM   
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Speaking of covering the plane, are you designing it with one method more in mind than another? If so, which? I have never done a fabric covering on a plane, though I can't imagine it being too difficult. However, I would think that it would be heavier than a plastic film covering.


Good question. I'm going the glassing and paint route myself. The booms and fuse are made out of fiberglass already. The wings will be fully sheeted with balsa. I've seen a few threads on covering fiberglass with monokote and even tried it once.....once . It can be done, just not by me. To answer your question, either will suffice. Painting would only add 1-2oz by a skilled painter/glasser like yourself. Paint looks far superior to monokote anyway IMHO.

If you think about it, this aircraft is being designed around a 0.90 size Jett engine. The ARF models of this plane fly on 0.46-0.75 engines and are of comparable size and weight to the Modkat. What's a few extra ouces?


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Now that I'm thinking about covering, I'm already starting to scheme up ideas for a covering pattern/paint job.


LOL I've been racking my brains on that as well. Just can't seem to "see" it yet. I figured the paint scheme will appear once the plane is built in front of me. To assist the builder, I'm including a clear 2D rendering if the model in the instruction manual to aide in this process.


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It will be nice to see a full 3D rendering once you have the SolidWorks modeling complete.


That will definetly happen! Only reason I have not done it yet is I don't have the hardware layout for the booms and fuse. If I assemble all the parts now I'd probably start moving things around only to have to do it again to make room for a former of something. I find it easier to CAD from the inside out. External problems can be fixed easily. Internal misalignments require an entire redesign .

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/20/2006 5:51:13 PM   
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Mods- How goes it? Just wanted to keep this thread at the top-

I am a fan

Now get that thing finished already ----


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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/20/2006 6:09:10 PM   
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Mods- How goes it? Just wanted to keep this thread at the top-

I am a fan

Now get that thing finished already ----


I'm stuck waiting on the engine . Can't continue until it gets here. Once it does, I can send it off to the kit cutter.

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/20/2006 6:47:48 PM   
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Mods- How goes it? Just wanted to keep this thread at the top-

I am a fan

Now get that thing finished already ----


I'm stuck waiting on the engine . Can't continue until it gets here. Once it does, I can send it off to the kit cutter.


Your patience shall soon be very well rewarded


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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/21/2006 5:44:20 AM   
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Your patience shall soon be very well rewarded


Roger that! Talked to Dub today and my engine is being sent out tomorrow! I can start making airplane noises now

!YEA!


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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/24/2006 5:39:33 AM   
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Good to hear that everything is falling into place on this plane. I can't wait to see it built and flying.

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RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build - 9/25/2006 4:35:05 AM   
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