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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/7/2003 11:56:08 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HarryC


Why is that Roger?

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Not instead of the 4000 but simply have kept it along with the 4000.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 12:12:18 AM   
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Ok Roger, but back to my question!! Why, since the 4000 does so much more and has all the memories you need, why keep another Tx? Like you I have sold my 3030 to clubmate so I can keep an eye on it!

Back to topic, perhaps if Hitec USA can sort out Multiplex's German website to be half as helpful as Hitec USA's is, they will be getting somewhere.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 12:19:56 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HarryC
Ok Roger, but back to my question!! Why, since the 4000 does so much more and has all the memories you need, why keep another Tx? Like you I have sold my 3030 to clubmate so I can keep an eye on it!

Back to topic, perhaps if Hitec USA can sort out Multiplex's German website to be half as helpful as Hitec USA's is, they will be getting somewhere.

Harry
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I suppose its because I like to keep my old stuff. I still have a single stick Proline radio and I still have my original McCoy 35 red head.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 1:22:12 AM   
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"I still have my original McCoy 35 red head."

That IS funny ! I am a readhead ,my first husband's last name was McCoy and I divorced him when I was 35 !!

He CAN'T say he still has is McCoy Readhead 35


OK I know ! Yes HE is better off :

Sorry for going off topic . It was too hard to pass up .

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 1:25:22 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ladyflyer
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"I still have my original McCoy 35 red head."

That IS funny ! I am a readhead ,my first husband's last name was McCoy and I divorced him when I was 35 !!

He CAN'T say he still has is McCoy Readhead 35


OK I know ! Yes HE is better off :

Sorry for going off topic . It was too hard to pass up .
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That is one funny coincidence.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 1:53:30 AM   
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Those McCoy redheads were pretty much slag anyway.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 2:14:16 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ladyflyer
Harry ,as usual we agree more than we disagree.
I too bought Multiplex because it was different and seemed advanced. Once I had it in my hands I realized the concept was great and the execution was poor. That is why I hope the innovation will be mated with some state of the art manufacturing and we will have another good radio line available.
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LF, just wondering which rig it was and what you didn't like.

BTW, I LOVED the Royal purple box!!

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 4:28:52 PM   
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It all boils down to this:

In area “A”, Hitec is regarded as a serious player in the market, and as being of acceptable quality so that a very high percentage of customers have some Hitec equipment. Multiplex has never been heard of by some customers, is little known of by most customers, is hard to get and relatively expensive compared to Futaba/JR. It is quite right that in area “A” the customers think Hitec’s purchase of Multiplex is a very good thing.

In area “B”, Hitec is widely regarded as not being reliable enough, so a small percentage of customers have Hitec equipment. Multiplex is available at any model shop, (though not many will stock it as a matter of routine), its Pico and Cockpit are more expensive than Futaba/JR but the Profis and Royal Evos are a fraction of the high end Futaba/JR prices, and Multiplex radios can be seen every weekend in significant numbers at the slopes and thermal gliding clubs. The main UK magazine reported that the Tx compound at gliding comps is 80% Multiplex – how’s that for market dominance. In my power-model club more than 10% of members use Mpx Tx but 1% use Hitec Tx. So in area “B” customers see Multiplex in use more than they see Hitec in use. They also see Multiplex being used by our very top scale fliers including a previous world champion, and by top glider fliers, whereas they see Hitec being used only by beginners who bought something cheap to start with. It is quite right that in area “B” the customers think Hitec’s purchase of Multiplex is a very bad thing.

Areas “A” and “B” will never be able to agree on this. Their markets are too different. All we can do is wait and see what really happens in the future.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 7:31:45 PM   
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A different UK view.

I am a member of two model clubs here in the UK, one is ic power and the other is glider/electric. Total membership 150. Only one glider member flys a Multiplex 3030 with Mini 9 DC Rx and two Hitec Superslim DC Rx's used in his three F3b models. He has flown in National and International Competitions and admits that the 3030 Tx and all three Rx's have performed flawlessly without the hint of a glitch. Must say a Multiplex dealer sponsors him - that dealer isn't going to be bothered about the Hitec mix now !!
The remaining glider members fly a mixture of Graupner MC20/24's and JR (R700 and R610 Rx's are favourites with a mix and match servo line-up) - no Futaba, Sanwa or complete Hitec units here.
Down at the ic power club an approximate equal mix of Futaba, JR, Sanwa and Hitec complete sets being in use.
As to why these modellers have chosen as they have would take up many more pages than are allowed.
It depends from who and where you collect your data as to how your statistical results will look.
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BTW Harry, when will you have the Hitec anthem ready...this Sunday ? .....chuckle - only the Queens English in your reply !

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 7:37:51 PM   
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I have been around Europe a bit. I did NOT see multiplex being very popular there, either. Certainly more popular than HERE, but in no way anywhere NEAR as popular as any of the Far Eastern brands. No way.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 8:20:15 PM   
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HarryC, while I'm in camp A I guess, I think both sides could agree that this could be a win-win or a lose-lose situation.

Win-Win: Multiplex gets a international sales, support, and distribution network. Hitec gets some very progressive thinking engineers and keeps manufactoring in Germany. Multiplex may even get more money for R&D and product development.

Lose-Lose: Hitec decides to roll the entire line until the Hitec label, moves manufactoring to the Philippines... etc.. I think they'd be crazy to do this but it could happen.

Other random thoughts:
* The "Lemming" factor is alive and well.

* I think Ladyflyer is one ex-McCoy 35 red head that's been around too much ether before posting.. (actually, good to see you around these parts again!)

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 10:50:07 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by lnorris
Lose-Lose: moves manufactoring to the Philippines... etc.. I think they'd be crazy to do this but it could happen.
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On its own that does not bother me. I would feel sorry for the people at Niefern factory who would lose their jobs, but frankly I don't care where my radio is made as long as it is reliable. If I owned Multiplex I would move production to the cheapest place that could do a satisfactory job, and I will be very surprised if Hitec doesn't move production out of Germany within 2 years. But will it be moved to somewhere that does a satisfactory job? Hitec's reputation in the USA would say yes, its reputation here would say no. But reputations are not reality, we must wait and see. I can only hope that this is Hitec's version of setting up a Lexus brand.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/8/2003 10:52:11 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DavidO
BTW Harry, when will you have the Hitec anthem ready...this Sunday ? .....chuckle - only the Queens English in your reply ! [/QUOTE]

"We are not amused!" - Queen Victoria

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/9/2003 12:01:34 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by EASYTIGER
I have been around Europe a bit. I did NOT see multiplex being very popular there, either. Certainly more popular than HERE, but in no way anywhere NEAR as popular as any of the Far Eastern brands. No way. [/QUOTE]

Not sure where you were but any time I go where large sailplanes are being flown MPX is the hands down winner. MPX is BIG when it comes to large sailpanes as it gives you programming possibilities that are impossible or extremely difficult with other brands. The power guys are slowly realizing what it can do for them. That said, Graupner is the overall big gun in Germany (does lots of sponsoring for one thing). Futaba has a large following in the heli's. The other brands are almost unknown and that includes Hitec.

The type of flying that is being done at any one club will often have a big influenece on what radio is used. I do know that some sponsored pilots fly MPX when no one is looking and that says something to me.

Bottom line, if it turns you on, go for it! It doesn't pay to try to convince some one to change radios; that's worse than trying to convince the better half that you NEED another plane!

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/9/2003 6:42:58 AM   
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