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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/15/2003 9:36:33 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ladyflyer
Mike , I like that "WIN WIN" line !
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LF, I'm with you here. Hitec gets access to some high end technology and programmability, Multiplex gets some less expensive radios and larger exposure and a well established distribution function.


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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/15/2003 10:03:23 PM   
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Isin't that what I said some 45 posts ago? It's a good thing all around.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/15/2003 10:05:43 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by rorywquin

Is Hitec dumping all their "old" technology in Europe? Could this perhaps be why Hitec are "perceived" by some folk to have a reliability / quality problem here?
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I am somewhat dumbfounded by your statement... Do you have that little respect for Hitec to say or "assume" such a thing?

The Laser is one of Hitecs latest "entry level" radios and it's quality is on par with any other radio out there no matter how it is made.

The word "percieved" is the key here... I think people in Europe are basing that opinion off of Hitec products that were built many years ago, just as the US market origionally did. The US has since realized that we make much better products now and have embraced us. Hitec is now the fastest growing R/C radio manufacturer in the US. Do you really think we could do that if we built inferior products?

It's alot like when you ask a child to eat something new and they say "No, I don't like that!" Well how do you know if you have never tried it? Even worse, they reply that " well, my freind tried it years ago and he didn't like it so it must be bad!"

Please don't speculate on the quality of an entire company based on a picture of thier entry level radio or outdated perceptions. If you talk to the people that actually use Hitec products you will see that we make great stuff that is very reliable.

AJF--2- Don't expect prices to drop anytime soon but I wouldn't rule it out in the future.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/15/2003 10:13:48 PM   
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Mike,

I was looking forward to getting a Evo 12 with synth in the May-ish release time. Is that still about the time they will be released or has it changed now with the purchase?

Thanks,
scott.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/15/2003 10:21:13 PM   
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Mike, I don't think Hitec's reputation in Europe is anywhere NEAR as bad as it is painted here on a few posts. A few places, yes. But not much. Don't beleive everything you read on the internet! I think you just have been outmarketed there so far, that's all.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/16/2003 1:28:36 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MikeMayberry


I am somewhat dumbfounded by your statement... Do you have that little respect for Hitec to say or "assume" such a thing?

Mike
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Mike please note I did not make a STATEMENT, and nor did I assume anything - I posed a question for you. This has nothing to do with my perception of your product (Good or bad)!

You are the person that said all your gear was SMT after I had commented that I had seen thru the board technology and subsequently posted a picture - now it is you saying it is different because it is an entry level radio.

It has been practise in the past for manufacturers to dump older product lines on markets that they believe will accept the product . Considering that the US is probably a much bigger market than Europe for Hitec - it is not inconceivable that an older line could be sold off in Europe. (I asked the question !!).

Surely intent of the forum is to debate, inform, entertain and educate.

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Mpx RE 12 - 1/16/2003 2:05:33 PM   
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To lighten the discussion a little ...

Here is an excerpt from an email from yours truly's local (700 km away! ) Mpx dealer and former exclusive Australian importer just sent me:

"I have some late breaking news on the Evo. set.

Multiplex have run in to problems with the synthesiser. Apparently they have not obtained the necessary approval to maket this type of set in countries around the world. Their is not much of a problem with the transmitter, and the synthesiser version is now due to be released mid 2003 if the necessary approvals can be obtained.

However, their are serious problems with the approval of the synthesised receiver, and the release date of this unti is unknown."

Apprarently the cystal version of the RE 12 IS now available here in Australia.

OK, but the news is not so great for potential Mpx Buyers wanting a full Synth set Down Under ...

So, what's the position on this (type approval and availability the Synth sets) in the US and UK ? Can anyone comment?


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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/16/2003 2:18:36 PM   
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I got my RE 12 synth from Staufenbiel in Germany, price €758.

I don't know about availability in the US but in the UK it should be available now. There is an add in both RC Model World and in RCM&E stating just that.

I got around the receiver problem by purchasing a synth receiver from Act. It is dual conversion, 8 channels receiver and works fine with the RE.


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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/16/2003 6:57:43 PM   
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As I understand it the synth version is legal in the UK - I believe it may actually be a problem in Germany itself - if I recall correctly when you buy a tx for use in Germany you need to buy a permit / register the tx or frequency or something to operate it !

Can anybody in Germany enlighten us??

Fiery - the mags. were advertising the sets long bfore they were available - Hoellein in Germany tell me they expect (35mhz) synth versions at the end of the month and that the scanners will be available early Q2. I think the operating frequencies in the different countries have a lot to do with availability of the tx.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/16/2003 8:09:06 PM   
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There is no problem with it in Germany. Everyone has to pay a fee to operate R/C, even if the radio is the old cyrstal controlled type. It does need to be certified just as in the States (FCC) and that is what probably still needs to be done in some countries. It is not easy nor is it cheap to do a certification in most places.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/16/2003 8:58:23 PM   
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Hey Mike,
As I recall, when we met at the WRAM show a couple of years ago, you had just become a papa. So by now, you are WELL experienced in the "Just try it, you'll like it" regimen, NO?
At 4, it doesn't get any better!


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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/16/2003 11:40:44 PM   
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Did you guys see [URL=http://www.multiplexrc.com]THIS [/URL] ?

Makes me wonder what Hitec's attitude towards distribuiting Multiplex products in the U.S. will be....
I fear that they'll just stay witht the radio line, and that Multiplex's line of excellent sailplanes and accesories will eventually disappear.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/17/2003 12:04:38 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MTT
Did you guys see [URL=http://www.multiplexrc.com]THIS [/URL] ?

Makes me wonder what Hitec's attitude towards distribuiting Multiplex products in the U.S. will be....
I fear that they'll just stay witht the radio line, and that Multiplex's line of excellent sailplanes and accesories will eventually disappear.

Michael
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Yes I did a while back as a matter of fact.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/17/2003 3:27:46 AM   
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Regarding surface-mount vs. through-hole.

The benefits of SMT are
1. Easier machine assembly.
2. Smaller components, hence smaller PCBs.
3. Much higher levels of integration: I regularly design with
500 to 1000 pin ICs, whereas anything more than a hundred
or so pins would be beyond most through-hole packages.

The disadvantages of SMT are
1. Harder to rework - due to size and the soldering process
2. Expensive reflow soldering machines required.
3. Inspection is harder - solder joints under components require
X-ray laminography to inspect them, as opposed to visual or
optical inspection for through hole boards.

Through-hole machine assembly is possible but the machines
are more complicated.

Machine assembly is more consistent than hand assembly.
I have lived through the transition from through hole to SMT.
Quality of assembled PCBs is a better due to the higher level
of automation, but through hole boards were not all that bad.
In both cases the ability of the assembly line is more important
then the process.

SMT is suited to big manufacturers with large production runs,
and is very capital intensive. Cottage industries have to contract SMT assembly out, with higher unit costs for small runs, whereas through hole assembly can be done in the garage, or by small, cheap contractors with little setup charge.

Regarding Roger's observation on the inside of a JR radio:

I was similarly surprised a couple of 378s I've fixed for friends. The charging jack is soldered directly to one of the PCBs. The PCB is single-sided and the jack's mounting pads had lifted due to insertion of the charging cord. No plated through holes or mechanical reinforcing was used. The wiring looms were simply stripped and soldered directly to pads on the PCBs. There were separate PCBs for the display, front panel buttons, main processor board, RF board, with wires running everywhere. The design of the case made all the boards necessary since nothing really lined up with anything else.

My 9Z has a display board, processor board, RF board and some little boards for the switches. But at least it has good quality connectors and plug-in cables. Case opening and closing requires considerable dexterity. They clearly stopped designing the moment they found had somewhere to put all the parts. I have not seen inside an 10X, so I can't comment on them.

I have looked at a Profi 4000. A couple of boards, jointed by cables and connectors, and a case that was designed to be easily opened closed. Looking at it you would wonder "Is this all I get for my money?": the inside was so simple and clean. I mean this as a good thing, by the way.

Off-topic comment but something I think Multiplex need to think about:
Part of this came from the switched being on the front - which I personally don't like. I prefer switches on the top and side where they are easy to reach and identify by feel while holding the transmitter, but I suppose that's what I'm used to. One thing I found when I was rallying was that the switches for driving lights, intercom, and other gadgets were best spread at random all over the place where they could be easily identified by feel. Nice neat rows were not good since I had to count them off from the end - not easy while bouncing around on a logging road barely in control of the car.

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Hitec buys Multiplex - 1/17/2003 1:13:27 PM