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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/21/2006 11:48:52 AM   
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We were out on Sunday, cold. Temps never really got over 45 degrees. Some guys use gloves with the finger tips cut off. I can't, they seem to cumbersome to me. So, I fly for a tank, then walk around with my hands in my pockets for the next half hour..ha.. I was doing some training that day, and that was especially tough because, if the students are good, and in this case, they were ready to solo (they did later on that day, by the way), then the fingers don't move very much except to hold the trainer button down on the buddy box.

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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/21/2006 1:40:32 PM   
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"CAR POOL" takes a bigger sign than "HOV" does and they pay for those by the square foot. Makes a difference when you figure out how many they have to make. Besides, they probably can't spell "CAR POOL".


Bruce,
How true...but I can tell you that years ago when they put up the HOV signs, the local news here had to explain what they were . If the state is saving money per letter, maybe they'll lower my property taxes!
Bev


Yeah, right. Are you holding your breath yet?


Bruce,
Only succeeded in turning blue!!!
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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/21/2006 1:51:04 PM   
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The contest has been registered on the IMAC website
http://www.mini-iac.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=120
The contest director is the AMA AVP for your region.
Tony is a great guy and is a great resource for the entire south Florida area.
You don't need the yard sticks, just a plane that has SOME vertical
You can do it with your trainer for fun, or come watch and fellowship.
I like IMAC because everyone is helpful.
Contestants will help you to the point where you can beat them in the contest.
Fellowship is remarkable.

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Miles,
Yes, that's AMP's in Miami. I looked at the website, but didn't seem to see anything on next years event. Maybe I didn't dig far enough. I know Bob Cox, their secretary, so I'll ask him. Keep me posted on it.
Hey, if I tape yardsticks on the SkyRaider's wingtips to make it reach minimum, do you think they'll let me compete?
Bev




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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/21/2006 2:00:01 PM   
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Hey Bev.. I've visited a few of the Florida club sites. Pretty nice!! I have a place on the west coast, in Bradenton that I head down to as often as I can. Every time, though, I visit the club at Venice. They have a lease on some property that is on a land fill. Very nice. The ones in Bradenton and Sarasota are nice clubs.

We have a NJ Department of Forestry runway that we have permission to fly but cannot do anything at all to the property. So, we have our benches, and pilot stands, but that's about it. But it is 3000 feet long and about 600 feet wide. Lots of room.

We get mostly wind that is down the runway, eigher left to right or right to left, and we take advantage of that with our playing with the wind in landings, or just slow passes with minimum throttle. I do my playing around at higher altitudes than the real pro's, though.. ha.. don't want to break my Venus II!!

DS.


DS,
I saw this response that you wrote in the "I thought it was really windy" thread. The Bradenton/Sarasota area is beautiful...I came close to moving there a few years back. I've got cousins in Bradenton that I visit from time to time. They used to keep their sailboat on Anna Maria Island...and since you're familiar with the west coast, at Burnt Store Marina down in Punta Gorda before that. ....west coast is better for sailboats, the east is better for power boats...it's a trade off. You are definitely giving me the idea to take a plane with me when I go to visit the next time!!!! Where are the clubs in Bradenton and Sarasota? I've got friends over there too....gives me a new excuse to go visit them too!

I was wondering if anyone wore gloves, and I see by your answer that they do. Should be interesting at the field today...weather bug on my computer says it is 49.9 degrees and winds are out of the NW fluctuating between 4 and 5 mph. But it's a gorgeous clear sky, and I've got the electric coffee pot and supplies in the SUV with my planes and gear as I type!!!!! Time to bundle up and head out to the frozen tundra here in the western reaches of Ft Lauderdale
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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/21/2006 2:57:54 PM   
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Hi Bev.

I love it there (Bradenton). About a 10 minute drive from my place to the beach on Anna Maria Island. Nice. You're right, though, the area does favor sail boats. Seems the Gulf is a tad less rough most of the time. Very nice area.

Now with regard to flying clubs, well, Bradenton has one that actually is at the end of Manatee Ave to the west, just east of I-75. They have a web site. I will post that later on after I find it in my 'favorites'.

Meanwhile, the one in Sarasota is at the end of Bee Ridge, again, about 4 miles east of I-75 (Bee Ridge is exit 207) in the spoils area of the local land fill.

The nicest one I've seen, is actually in Venice. Both paved and grass runways, very nice plane assembly area and taxi-way, pilot stands, and so on. They even have a paved circle-burner area for control line pilots. The only problem with that one is that they are closed on Sundays because the land-fill area is county controlled and is an active land fill. They do not operate on Sundays so there is no flying on Sunday. It's at I-75 exit 195. Go east on Laurel, turn north on Knights Trail, proceed 4.5 miles to Sarasota County Land Fill, follow signs to the rear of the complex. (watch your speed.. county sheriff is very active along Knights Trail. Every time I've gone there, I've seen at least one, sometimes two, radar traps setup).

There is one in Palmetto, which is just north of Bradenton along Rt 41 Business. I've never been to that club but have been invited to drop by on my next visit. They are called the Valkyries RC Flying Club.

I've E-mailed several members of each club and found them all to be very open to visitors. In fact, at Venus, I stopped by with my girlfriend one day, started talking to one of the flyers, he put his larger scale planes up and handed me the controls! To a total stranger!! I had a ball flying his biggie around, was a great day. I left with all smiles.

Well, it's about 38 degrees here today, and blowing about 12 - 15 knots. Fingers will definitely get cold if I Head out to fly today. I think I will focus my RC time on my new build, a Goldberg Tiger 120.

Later.

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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/22/2006 4:17:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Geistware

The contest has been registered on the IMAC website
http://www.mini-iac.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=120
The contest director is the AMA AVP for your region.
Tony is a great guy and is a great resource for the entire south Florida area.
You don't need the yard sticks, just a plane that has SOME vertical
You can do it with your trainer for fun, or come watch and fellowship.
I like IMAC because everyone is helpful.
Contestants will help you to the point where you can beat them in the contest.
Fellowship is remarkable.

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ORIGINAL: Skyhigh Bev

Miles,
Yes, that's AMP's in Miami. I looked at the website, but didn't seem to see anything on next years event. Maybe I didn't dig far enough. I know Bob Cox, their secretary, so I'll ask him. Keep me posted on it.
Hey, if I tape yardsticks on the SkyRaider's wingtips to make it reach minimum, do you think they'll let me compete?
Bev





Miles,
Excellent!! I checked the IMAC web site and the luckily the event falls the weekend before Presidents Day weekend (I have an obligation that weekend) I definitely plan to come WATCH, not compete (unless they let me enter the class "endless left pattern touch-n-go's" ) And I agree on the Fellowship... we have a few IMAC guys out at our field... Patrick and Alex have both helped me along the way.
So...practice up so we can all watch you win!!!
Bev



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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/22/2006 4:28:58 AM   
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DS,
I'm very familiar with Manatee Avenue and Bee Ridge. Also been through Palmetto a lot...it's been building up there quite a bit in recent years. Thanks for the tip on the speed traps in Venice
BTW, read your "Blog" on your Profile page. Quite an interesting life. Looks like you really enjoyed flying in the UK. I didn't know they flew on different frequencies than we did.
Keep me informed on the Goldberg Tiger 120. Joel told me today that he hopes to find a kit for me to build. Should be interesting...and challenging, but I'd really like to try and build one.
Cold today at the field, colder tomorrow
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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/22/2006 4:47:50 AM   
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Well I survived my first real day of flying in cold weather. Boy this has been the first time I've seen some of these guys in "long pants" and vice-versa
It never got above 60 degrees and the wind was high...highest gust at BSO in Weston was 20 mph. But it was all right down the runway and there wasn't a cloud in the sky all day. I got to practice my right pattern flying and landings. Made lots of coffee for the gang and played disco music all day.
Also one of our pilots, Fernando had me fly his electric 540 Edge. What a fun plane...I wanted to try RCKens suggestion to me in the other thread to "park" the plane, but was afraid to slow the throttle down that much (not my plane to lose)....did have it going almost a stall speed upwind and then when I looped it around, it would scream downwind to the next turn . I really gotta get an electric going!!!
Supposed to go down to 39 or 40 degrees out in Western Ft Laud here tonight ...YIKES!...it's gonna be cold out there in the morning!!! Maybe an electric blanket on an extension cord would work!
Here's the electric I flew today.
Bev


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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/22/2006 6:28:33 AM   
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DS,
I didn't know they flew on different frequencies than we did.
Bev



I also believe, from what I grasp, that over here in the good ol' US of A we share the frequency with some other uses (is it radio of some kind) where as in mighty Blighty I believe the RC air frequency is solely reserved, the BMFA is a good organisation. Shame about the lack of good flying weahter over there.

J

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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/22/2006 11:37:22 AM   
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Hi Bev. I wrote a rather long-winded post in the ARF or RTF section, so far no one has replied or commented. It's now about three or four pages back. Guess it's to lengthly for most people to read. But it describes what I've done so far and what I intend to do with the Tiger 120. My motivation is that I have a Tiger 60, actually my second plane, my trainer was my first, and it is still intact.. beat up pretty bad, but still intact..ha.

As you can imagine, when Goldberg came out with the Tiger 120, well, I naturally had to have one. It is not quite as radical as some of the planes I have, but should be great fun and a relaxing flyer. Take a look at the thread if you wish, and if any questions, ask away. I am the second RC'er in our club with one so there is at least two pilots with some build experience. And if you are planning on getting one, well, so far, it's been an easy build, even with the slight modifications I've added, and based on my experience with the OS 1.20 AX, it should be plenty enough engine for the airframe. I have one on my Excelleron 90 and my Venus II and love the performance.

One thing that I may regret is moving the elevator and rudder servos to the radio compartment. I got one note from the other guyin the club who built one, that they tend to build nose heavy so the weight in the back would help balance it out. Added to that, I am using an OS 1.20 AX which weighs in (with muffler and extension) at about 30.7 ounces. That will make it a tad nose heavy. I may have to put some weight back aft to balance it out. I'm not happy about that because I am trying to build it as light as possible.

Anyway, sounds like you had a tad bit of our NJ weather down there. It was pretty much like that on Sunday with the wind right down the center line, and temps hovering around 45 degrees F for the most part.... occasional slightly cross wind, but all we had to do was hold off on landing and the wind would shift.

I always tell students (I do some training) that it's always better to practice new stuff at 'three mistakes high'. I do those wind maneuvers where the plane stops moving, but do it pretty high just in case. I don't want to destroy a plane. Those are fun to do, and can sharpen reaction times, which is good.

Regarding flying in the UK, well, the weather was very different. Most of the days out, it was either cloudy or misty out, or some combination of cloudy and misty. The field we flew from was located on the top of a very large public area (if you do Google Earth: 51 degrees 45 minutes 04.79 N x 0 degrees 7 minutes 40.87 E). People would come by walking their dogs or riding horses while we were flying, paying no attention to what's going on, would just walk across the field like we weren't there. It was strange. The club guys just ignored it and kept flying. What was truly interesting was that they did not have a real flight line, but would shift it according to the wind (so no real directional runway). One hour, it would be on the east side of the field, and the next, it could be on the north side of the field!

While there, I went to the RC Airshow, Wings and Wheels Extravaganza, at the North Weald field, about 30 miles north of London (Google Earth, it's 51 degrees 43 minutes 16.44 N x 0 degrees 9 Minutes 12.81 E). It was a WW-II field converted to a general aviation field after the war. Very nice small general aviation airport. They closed the field for full-scale flying so the big RC airshow could be conducted. What an event that was. What impressed me most of all was the demo by the Ripmax company. They had about 20 or so Ripmax Rapier flying wings, all different colors and all on different frequencies. On Saturday, they flew 12 of them in formation, all at the same time. Very neat. On Sunday, though, they really let it all hang out because they flew 18 of them at one time. Started out with 18, ended up with 12. Had several mid-airs. Being a manufacturer of the plane, they didn't care if they hit each other or not. Was very impressive a demonstration, all doing 'precision' flying doing maneuvers all coordinated. They also had jet turbo helicopters, a very large scale turbo prop IMAC type aircraft, and other neat planes. The grand finale was a fly-by of about 20 RC aircraft, all WW-II type warbirds including an RC B-29 bomber, B-17 bomber, and a Brit Lancaster Bomber, followed by all sorts of fighters including P-51's, Corsairs, and so on. Very impressive.. especially that huge B-29.

Ok.. I tend to go on and on so I will just log out and get on to my other stuff... will be a short work day today, headed to Massachusetts tomorrow (yeah, flying.. ha) to spend the holiday with my Mom (90 years old) and my brother.

Later.. and if I don't get back here till Monday, have a happy Thanksgiving day and happy flying!!!

DS.

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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/22/2006 1:06:46 PM   
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Practice I will..... but WIN????
You have never seen my fly.
I just don't want to come in last!!!!
I don't know Alex or Patrick, they need to visit some contest outside of Miami.
I looked up the last AMP's contest and Patrick and I fly in the same class.
I guess he is the man to beat!
I didn't see Alex listed.
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ORIGINAL: Skyhigh Bev

Excellent!! I checked the IMAC web site and the luckily the event falls the weekend before Presidents Day weekend (I have an obligation that weekend) I definitely plan to come WATCH, not compete (unless they let me enter the class "endless left pattern touch-n-go's" ) And I agree on the Fellowship... we have a few IMAC guys out at our field... Patrick and Alex have both helped me along the way.
So...practice up so we can all watch you win!!!
Bev




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RE: Images - Bev & Joel Flying A Trainer - 11/22/2006 1:40:03 PM   
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Geistware:

It's interesting at our field.. the rivalry between the Pattern folks and the IMAC folks, even though they do much the same thing. (Big difference seems to be size and free-style but mostly the same maneuvers performed, but correct me if I am wrong). But, that seems to be going away (the rivalry) because we picked up a few new members recently that are definitely into IMAC and have sort of joined forces with the pattern folks to become more proficient.

As for me, well, I try pattern, but seem to lose it after the third or fourth maneuver.. over correct or sloppy thumbs during a maneuver then end up starting over again. But, I'll get there.. as you said.. practice practice.. ha.

DS.

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