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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 12:11:12 AM   
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yes here is one. http://www.rcdynosystems.com/

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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 12:16:01 AM   
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its a good price too, only 2 large

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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 3:20:47 AM   
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what the guys are saying is right they are worthless for the 2 stroke i know this from my experience from 2 stroke motorcycles the compression in a 2 stroke isnt enough to handle a supercharger a 2 sroke works better off of the porting and piston size thats just my .02 worth

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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 3:50:58 AM   
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I have my facts right I work on two and four strokes for a living. YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT! A nitro engine is a two stroke by two strokes they meen it strokes the piston 2 times per power cycle. As the piston goes up it compresess the air and fuel above it WHICH IS A COMPRESION STROKE, WHICH HAPPENS EVERY TIME THE PISTON GOES UP! and at the same time it is pulling in air/fuel under neath the piston through the carb then the crank in our case, then when the fuel ignites above the piston the piston is pushed down WHICH IS THE POWER STROKE, and at the same time the port the carb above of closes because the crank spins, and the air fuel under the piston is compressed a little till the ports in the side of the cylinder are uncovered and the fresh air fuel flows from underneathe the piston to above it which pushes the burnt mixture out this is why two strokes including nitro buggy engines ect. use tuned pipes and make more power from certain pipes because the pipe uses the pulse to help stop the fresh air fuel from exiting the cylinder out the exhauste port. SO THERE FOR A NITRO ENGINE WHICH IS A TWO STROKE HAS TWO STROKES ONE IS COMPRESION AND THE OTHER IS THE POWER STROKE! If your engine had no compresion it would not start! A four stroke uses four strokes of the piston to do all of this this is why ama rules alow four strokes to be 450 cc in the 250 class because the two strokes have twice as many power strokes per crankshaft revalution
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2 stroke=ignition/exhaust you need to get your facts straight, a nitro does not hava a compression stroke. it pulls fuel and ignites on the same stroke then exhausts on the other stoke, the compression and ignition are on the same stroke.



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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 3:55:08 AM   
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lol. whatever, all i know is that they DO NOT WORK on a nitro engine, they just look good. if you read what i said, i think it was the same as you said, just shorter.

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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 3:58:19 AM   
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NOT EVEN CLOSE AT ALL YOU ARE COMPLEATLY WRONG! I SAID TURBOS AND SUPERCHARGERS DO WORK AND NITRO ENGINES DO HAVE COMPRESION YOU ARGUED AGAINST THE TRUTH!
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lol. whatever, all i know is that they DO NOT WORK on a nitro engine, they just look good. if you read what i said, i think it was the same as you said, just shorter.



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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 4:00:07 AM   
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oh, sorry, you said they do work so they must, i was refering to the compression/igniton stroke and exhaust stroke on a 2 stroke engine. read what i said again.

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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 4:04:25 AM   
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Nitro engines use ignition it is called a glow plug. I and many other people in this world have seen and used forced induction on two and four stroke and it does work! Just think of this your engine makes power by burning air and fuel, if you force more air and fuel in guess what happens! More power! Someone else with some knoledge, back me up here!
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oh, sorry, you said they do work so they must, i was refering to the compression/igniton stroke and exhaust stroke on a 2 stroke engine.



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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 4:06:20 AM   
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works excellent on a 4 stroke, not so great on a 2 stroke, by the way i know all about the glow plug deal, lol.

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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 4:09:37 AM   
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If you are admiting they do work on two strokes but better on fourstrokes I agree. They work on boath but better on fourstrokes. Still make alot more power on boath.
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works excellent on a 4 stroke, not so great on a 2 stroke, by the way i know all about the glow plug deal, lol.



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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 4:11:00 AM   
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type in supercharger in the search above and read the comments about it. i am not going to argue about it, do some research on it before you start shooting off.

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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 4:28:33 AM   
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I have done my research I worked in a dynojet dyno shop for 4 years and am a licenced motorcycle mechanic of 5 years ten in the trade. I got honers and asked to teach the program! You force more air and fuel into a engine and it makes more power it is a simple concept. To top it all off "superchargers" came from old 2 stroke diesel engines in the begining like the 6-71 jimmi I have in my garage for my 440!
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type in supercharger in the search above and read the comments about it. i am not going to argue about it, do some research on it before you start shooting off.



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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 4:32:33 AM   
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very well, but they dont work on nitro engines, i am not arguing about automobile engines, i am talking about nitro rc engines, do a search on this site and see what people have to say about it, i did my research on it, thats why i dont have one, i am not responding to this anymore, its seems pointless, you will keep telling me about supercargers on 440's and other automobiles.

in case anyone else would like some research on the subject, i think the first 2 threads say it all, but what do i know??

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/searchpro.asp?phrase=supercharger&fuzzyMatch=on&author=&forumid=ALL&topicreply=combined&message=subject&timeframe=%3E&timefilter=0&language=single&top=500&criteria=AND&minRank=0&sortMethod=d&submitbutton=+OK+

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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 4:35:09 AM   
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700cc yamaha triple is a 2stroke sled engine not an automobile. The only difference between a two stroke sled engine and a nitro two stroke, is the fuel and the glow plug it still uses the same princeables of operation!

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RE: Holy S**t - 3/10/2007 4:35:20 AM   
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arlo1 is right on the money, as far as the mechanical workings of the 2 stroke! Now if it works better with or with out a blower/compressor/turbo I have not tried. Now in theory it should make more power with a turbo. It is the same idea as a motor will make more power at lower elevation than higher elevations because at lower elevations the air is more compressed. If I were to say that a turbo would not work on a 2 stroke I would almost be saying that a 2 stroke would not work at lower elevations! Lower elevations=higher air density.

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