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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/10/2007 6:22:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		The centre of gravity is slightly forward straight from the box (weight forward), the main way of trimming for flight is by mving weight forward or back. If it needs to go back you can move th battery as far back as the bulkhead (circuit board). If the nose dives after launch move it back slightly, if it stalls move it slightly forward until you find the ideal glide. Only testing will find the right "spot".

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/11/2007 2:56:59 PM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/11/2007 5:05:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would love to ground launch (ROG) but the bird is heavy and you'll need a long run at it, I wouldn't dream of it on grass - I usually use a shale soccer pitch or disused road near me. With a hand launch you can "feel" the wind for launch at right time and get the right angle - saves battery power as well! Hope this helps
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/14/2007 7:00:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey.

I just tried flying a new Aerobird Swift yesterday. Big problem - it won't lift off the ground. I'm flying off an abandoned asphalt runway. Full throttle, stick full back, and the plane just rolled down the runway at full speed never leaving the ground. Does anyone have a suggestion. I called tech support and they told me to move the pushrods down a few holes on the control horns for more throw and told me to play around with the two thumbscrews on the aft end under the tail section.

Help!

Thanks,

Gregg

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/14/2007 10:01:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Welcome to the club - your not alone! My personal advice is: Move battery as far back as you can, even try a Challenger prop if you can find one, use level 2 switch on TX (last resort), But the big one is - make sure battery fully charged (can't stress this enough). Even with all these tried it might not ROG so then remove wheels (extra weight) and launch into wind, very firmly. Basically, the swift is tough, but heavy. Six months down the road if you're still struggling, don't throw it in the bin (not eco friendly!!) install b/less and/or lipo. Both have been done with success but first try the suggestions. If you get a chance take a look at ronrico vid (stock bird) and ask JohnCunningham or swift427 for advice, both knowledgeable guys. Hope this points you in right direction - now I'm off to fly my 3 Strykers and Mr Zagi to infinity and beyond!!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/15/2007 12:00:09 AM   
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I'll give it all a try.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/15/2007 12:44:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi again Greg! Hope it works - have you done any of the mods to plane yet or is it too early? Do you dismantle plane to get to site or just put it into car? If you take wings off be careful you don't let servo wires pop back into fuse - its a bugger to fish them out - to stop this happening put elastic bands round connectors and fasten something larger than hole to ends of bands. Other tip: if you unscrew small screws in bottom of fuse for access replace them with cup hanger style screws same thread (you can undo in seconds without losing screws!!). Make sure wings are a tight fit in fuse, as they can be a sloppy fit - use packing tape etc. If both ailerons stop working its the connector on circuit board come off or loose (looking to tail from front its the black one on left) - fishing time again. just tips, now go and enjoy What other planes do you have/had?

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/15/2007 2:43:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi all, first time flyer, starting with Arobird swift, hobby shop owner helping with training. But not getting enough flying time, living on south coast can be very windy.
JohnPCunningham on theRX board the first 4 pins belong to export the next 4sets of3pins are control outlets then 3sets dont know, but what are the last set of 4 pins for ?.
This RC flying can be a bit of a bug but a nice bug to be bitten by, hope you can help thanks





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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/15/2007 5:39:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi SKLab, can't help you myself with this prob - totaly dinosaur with electrics. John or swift427 will see you right. Scan the threads and I think there's one under "Park Fliers..." called something like "Hobbyzone, Parkzone electrics in detail etc" - John's got a couple of posts on it, very informative
Something to make you feel at home - try the "Australian thread......" - there's a few good guys there (Inflex, Ozrcboy, Clovus, Maiden Crash and the man Crawf). Awesome vids, all electric, lots of info and they're awake when you are. I'm never off it cos I'm insomniac. Some of them meet up to fly (Melbourne, Perth, Bundy Rum Country etc) - you got to check it out - tell them I sent you

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/15/2007 11:28:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Tam, will look up those threads

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/17/2007 5:28:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sklab - can you send me a tester asap cos I think I have problem with my e-mail. And don't shoot too many Kanga's today, mate

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/17/2007 6:19:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got out for first flight in 2.5 weeks loverly evening 2nites ago , heavy storms tonite to much thunder lightning,tomorrow and weekend should be good,

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/18/2007 6:16:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, got that! It seems the thread isn't letting me know I've had mail (I hate new technology) Did you find that Aus thread? One of the guys is a LHS shop owner and one has a great website (ozrcboy = www.ozrcboy.com????) On one of the threads an "epert" said that thedesign of the sift is all wrong - low wing, ailerons, heavy, no rudder, poor angle of attack (wing section). Got to agree with him I'm afraid, he reckons it is underpowered (Yep!!). Anyway, I'm off to fly it now!!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/19/2007 3:37:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yep - found the problem. The CG was so far forward that when I lifted the plane by the wingtips, it rolled forward right onto the floor. Added weight to the tail to center the CG about 1/3 from the leading edge. Works great now!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 5/19/2007 5:38:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Other planes and the like that I've had.

Well, I bought my first model airplane in 1976 - control line models that spun you around in circles until you puked your guts out. There were many types of RC gadgets out then. One was called "The Galloping Ghost". Some were simple solenoids that pulled a rudder or elevator FULL position - you pilot the plane by ever-so-carefully hitting the buttons to control the rudder or elevator.

Then came the first of the "Proportional" radio control sets. My first one was made by a now defunct company called Centari. The servo's were about 3" long, about 1.5" tall and about 1" wide. They moved really slow, got really warm to the touch, and ate nicad batteries like a fat kid eating fudge bars.

Later I worked for the hobby shop that sold all this stuff and I could get my hands on things really cheap. Over time, technology shrank the servos, receivers and power requirements, while increasing their strength.

I really only bought and built about 10 kits over my life time. I've owned a couple