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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 12/20/2006 4:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Would anyone please be able to tell me what the exact distance between the tail wing screw holes is on the Swift? Is it 50 MM like the Xtreme or 30 MM like the Freedom/Challenger? I've ordered a Swift online but wanted to figure out what spare parts I could make or use from my other Hobbyzone planes. Horizon could only tell me that it looked like the distance between the two screws was somewhere in between 30 and 50 MM but I'd really like to find out for sure.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 12/25/2006 8:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		My friend just tried his Swift and said its great , hes been flying a Challenger and says the Swift is better, no problems at all and hes really pleased. I almost bought one but read that someone who tested said it sucked, my friend says its the best hobbyzone plane ever.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 12/28/2006 12:25 AM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 12/28/2006 3:08 AM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 12/28/2006 4:59 AM   
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I still don't see the reason as to why people need an aileron trainer...I guess I'm just completely turned off by the idea.

Is that a serious post?
If you've been flying for years using only rudder and elevator, ailerons are a real shock to the system. Add the fact that you'll need to coordinate turns on some planes with rudder and you've got a real learning curve here.
If you've learned from the git-go with ailerons (as I did), I can see how it'd seem a bit nonsensical.
However, the glut of rudder/elevator planes is NOT going anywhere. It's just going to get more and more prevalent as RTFs continue to grow in popularity. Those who learn on these planes NEED training experience. To go from rudder control, where there's a pause, the wing dips, and the plane turns, to ailerons that instantly drop the wing is a monumental change.
Why wouldn't you want an aileron trainer?
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 12/28/2006 9:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, got several more days of flying with the Swift. I am getting used to handling it much better. It flies pretty well, it is very critical that all surfaces are aligned exactly correctly. I have flown both on windless days and with some wind, and the plane actually can use some wind for lift. I feel better about the plane than I first did although it is not become a favorite.

I am still not crazy about the wing style, but it does fly, and appears to have decent power. Again they did fix alot of issues with the original EXCELLENT Aerobird Challenger. So it is an improvement. And yes there certainly is a need for a aileron trainer, although I'm not sure this should be it.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 12/30/2006 2:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I first flew my Swift in early December after receiving it. Truly it flies like a dream compared to the Zone 1 and 2 aircraft. At 2/3 throttle it will climb into stiff Kansas wind until
you need binoculars to see it. The aileron control provides smooth turns and you can roll into a turn then pull elevators to make it on a dime. The only sour point I've had was when
the battery got low on my last flight. The controls locked and the motor kept running, totally opposite from design logic. 3 days and 3 pounds of wheat field muck on my shoes
later I found the plane 1/4 mile away. Has anyone else had this problem? I'm leaning toward it being associated to the extra battery I was given,but until the weather improves
no further testing. Will keep in touch.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/1/2007 6:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		i love this plane ive had it for only 2 days and flown it many times. i found it really easy to fly but when i attempted to do a roll i almost nose dived it great for beginners though!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/2/2007 12:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Swift will do quite a few tricks, Just do it with some Altitude! When doing barrel rolls apply up elevator. Best done into the wind with the throttle kicked up. I have been trying
to figure out how to roll it tighter by doing down and up elevator during the roll but haven't gotten much cooperation from my fingers. Immelmanns are fun also. Have fun dude!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/3/2007 1:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		In answer to your question, approx 1-5/32" between the screw holes for the v-stab of the Swift. Metric? Are you a Canook disguising himself
as a Coloradan?
For all Swifties I received a reply from Hobbyzone IRT my battery shutdown failure. They're saying it maybe the receiver, more to follow.
Also if you have this type occurrence don't fly the model again as the Warranty won't cover it, "If it survived the first round".

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/4/2007 2:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello all,
I'm new to flying RC electric, or flying period. I bought a Harbor Freight Yellow Bee several weeks before Christmas and promptly lost it on the first battery charge and third toss into the air. I was thrilled to get it flying and didn't have a clue about keeping it upwind. Not to be discouraged, I bought another and found a better place to fly it. Again, on the first toss I had misfortune. I flew it into the scoreboard where I was flying. After repairing the broken wing with Dollar General wide cellophane tape, I had the most fun I've experienced for a good while. I was able to land the Yellow Bee without mishap! I probably have 3 hours airtime with this simple plane and am fairly confident flying it. The only control for this craft is variable prop speed for both motors at once, and steering is accomplished by one prop spinning faster than the other. My son bought one (Yellow Bee) and we have had a blast. Last weekend he bought an Aerobird Extreme and was able to do loops. I flew it for about 4 minutes without trying anything tricky and decided to get a bigger plane as well.

The reason for this post is to ask advice. I just bought an Aerobird Swift and would appreciate comments like the profound:

"Posted by maiden-crash

I have to agree chief illini here it is best to start with rudder elevator and throttle. To control by aileron means that the plane keeps rolling until you tell it to stop, and it does it quicker than you may expect. Thats why if you have no experience in planes they are very easily overcontrolled whereas with rudder it pushes the plane sideways instead. Aileron in most cases doesnt even turn the plane, it simply rolls it and you have to add in rudder or elevator to turn it."

I hope to get the Swift via Fed Ex this Friday and get it into the air Saturday. My son is already talking about the combat module and an air battle. He seems to have keener instincts than I do for flying, and I would welcome comments from those of you who know both planes characteristics.

"What is a "tip stall" or "snap"?

Thanks in advance,

ZDave

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/5/2007 2:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, enjoy your swift and good luck! My friends and I still fly our Challengers with the combat module and its pretty fun. As far as the swift goes for me, I flew it for the first time last weekend and found it to be very stable. Someone earlier mentioned its a tad underpowered and I would have to agree though I'd like to try it with a LiPo battery or or the upgrade battery. Handles really great. Now, the bad news: The throttle knob snapped clean off on the second flight so...Guess I'm grounded til I get a reply from the maufacturer on a replacement. But other then that I'm pretty happy with it. This plane appears to be more accessible for hop-ups the previous hobbyzone planes.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/6/2007 5:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Called horizon about the TX and they sent a new one. Fast service.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/7/2007 2:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		response to ZDave's post. I must say that I have never heard of a tip stall myself, but I can tell you what a stall is. It is when your airspeed gets so low, that your plane no longer has ENOUGH airspeed to keep moving, so the heaviest part of your plane (the front) falls down at a steep angle, and unless you have enough altitude, there goes your plane. Also, I must give you som advice, and you will be spared alot of crashes if you heed it. One, when you have a plane that steers with the motors you have to (for the most part) hold the stick all the way over, and hold it till it has gotten to where you want it. THIS IS NOT HOW AILRONS WORK!!!!!
fOR YOUR FIRST FLIGHTS YOU SHOULD MOVE THE STICK SLOWLY UNTIL THE PLANE ACHIEVES ABOUT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE, THEN APPLY A LITTLE BIT OF UP ELEVATOR, WHICH YOU WILL JUST HOLD UNTIL THE PLANE TURNS.ANOTHER THING THAT IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT!!! DO NOT CROSSCONTROL!!!!! This simply means
that you need to remember that when you move the stick to the right/left, you are moving to the planes right/left. A good thing to do is put diferent colored tape on the wings(ie green is right,purple is left). Also keep your altitude high until you are very comfortable with the plane.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/13/2007 3:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Howdy, Well my Swift is back at the factory for the low battery issue. TIP STALL! As mentioned before in this forum apply low inputs to the ailerons during an approach for landing.
Otherwise with the slow speed you are at one wing may suddenly drop. Trust me my handle says it all, Lawndart! If you have good altitude, 100' you can practise approach
manuevers and find out just how much the plane will take. I'm sure you'll find that anymore than 1/2 input at slow speed causes a tip stall on approach. So you got a Yellow Bee
to Fly? The wife bought me one for Christmas. It goes up in a big arc and then lawn darts in. Did you cut into the tail surfaces to trim it out? The motors seem to have plenty of
power it just doesn't want to keep flying.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/18/2007 10:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay Hello RC Aces NewB hear I've been fling for 2 weeks now with no previous experience. I flew a buddies yellow bee from Harbor Freight and drove directly to th store and bought my own. I had a great time with that untill I lost it down wind so I guess a cheap lesson 40.00 in staying upwind. Then instead of buying another yellow bee I purchased a 79.00 piper cub from Harbor freight. I tried to hand launch it like a paper airplane twice and it made a decent landing once and a bad landing once. 3rd time I was airborne full throttle I gave elevator downand watched a beautiful 45 degree dive from at least 300 ft in the air as I pulled up I needed the earth to be about 30 ft lower and well you know what happened. I went and bought another 79.00 Piper cub from harbor Freight. The second plane never flew more than 40 ft and I thik the engine just didn't have it. I will change the motor out one day when I learn more. So I decided to get local hobby shop support which at this point was a 200.00 lesson. At the Hobby Shop I found a simulator and flew various different planes from a cub w/ way more power at least enough to keep it in simulated air all the way to a turbine jet which I realised quickly is a long ways away. After 3 days and just over an hour on the simulator I purchased a zone 3 I know I know HZ Aerobird Swift. Before it's maiden voyage I went back to jacks hobbies for a final lesson. I wrecked about 11 more times and made almost 20 landings in a row. I went to my field with as much confidence as I could muster knowing that I had been "flying" in a simulated world. SEARCH GOOGLE VIDEOS "HOBBYZONE SWIFT" and you can see me and my Swifts maiden voyage. Oh by the way the landing didn't mess up a thing. Very durable I kept it on low rate of course and was able to fly as if I knew what I was doing. Loops Barrelroles and if you see anything else I did lemme know. there might even be a wanna be Immelman turn or the opposite thereof in there. I have had 7 flights since all with pretty decent landings. I would highly suggest the simulator that you can hook a real controller up to the USB cable only because it set me up for success. Remember this vid is my first real flight no offense to the yellow bee. I plan on getting a Stryker C or P 51 mustang next. I;ve ben telling everybdy to get into flying and how much fun it is. I even tell my tables at Carrabbas where I serve in Ocala FL. Can't wait till the winds die down. I am trying to be smart as i don't want anymore lessons like the ones mentioned earlier. Thanks and FLYHI420

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/18/2007 12:37 PM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/18/2007 12:39 PM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/21/2007 3:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey all. I have a technical question. I have a aerobird challenger and I was wondering if I could use the pushrods from the ABS in the ABC. How are the rods run? On the inside or the outside of the boom? If you guys with both the planes could check this, I would greatly appreciate it.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/21/2007 9:22 PM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/21/2007 11:35 PM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/22/2007 6:03 PM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/22/2007 10:22 PM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 1/28/2007 10:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I took my new Aerobird Swift out for its maiden flight.
http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HBZ7200

Wind was near zero. It was near dusk so the light was not the best.

I can definitely endorse this as an excellent flying plane for a first time aileron plane. While it could be a first plane, I think I like the Aerobird Challenger and the HZ Super Cub better as they are more self correcting. If you put the Swift into a bank it tends to stay in that bank. That makes it very predictable but not as forgiving of new pilot errors as the other.

Right out of the box, with no adjustments, it flew right out of my hand, climbed nicely and fly beautifully. Banks were smooth and easy. The plane rolled, though they were not very axial, but that could have been me as I am not much of an aerobatic pilot. I was able to roll into inverted flight and hold it there with a little up elevator.

The plane has a nice level glide, so you can turn the motor off and float around slowly. That also means it floats in nicely for a landing. It won't float as slowly as the challenger, but I would not expect it to.

I am sure that the battery was not up to full power yet. I did not find the plane as fast as I expected but I think after a few flights it will pick up speed. The brushes have probably not fully seated yet.

Looks like HobbyZone has another winner!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/5/2007 5:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		AEAJR, I was wondering about a post made earlier about not being able to do a ground take-off with the Swift. I'm presently working out of an abandoned
Airforce base that has alot of concrete to debunk this posting. I normally hand launch my planes due to trees and wind. That said, should i attempt to apply
down elevator as the plane gains speed or just let her rip until she jumps in to the sky. Hopefully I can get one of my coworkers to snap a pic at the right time for posting.

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