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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/9/2007 11:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pronoun Da (Welsh) "good evening" - if you mean the switch on top of TX to left of antenna (diagram page 21 and 23) - NO. I thought this was for bomb drop etc. Thanks for tip. TaTa!!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/11/2007 1:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		i took the swift out yesterday a little to windy and wet the local park is too small really,

only flew for a few mins.

weather forcast says windy all week so i dont think i am going to get to fly it much for now

also what should be the max wind for flying the swift, in the manual it say 7mph for beginners but it going to be too windy here all week and i need to fly.

i bought it half and half with my brother he wanted a plane, first flight he crashed it full power in to the ground and every flight up yesterday it crashed, it can take a lot more punishment than the art-tech cessna tho.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/11/2007 2:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		which plane we on about agian i forgot, but for reversing the channels if a 4 channel plane there will be 4 switches on the bottom of the front on the transmitter and 3 switches if 3 channel etc...


when i first got my art tech they were all reversed so throttle down was to power motor, push down on elevator control and it went down etc... so i flicked the switches and that sorted them out.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/11/2007 11:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks! I'll give it a try tomorrow - my prop broke but got replacement no problem (£3). Not been ..out in strong winds so cant comment. Flight sim arriving tomorrow (£20) - I'll practice then try the strong stuff! Wish me luck as you wave me goodbye, here I go......(Gracie Fields - 1945).

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/12/2007 2:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		i taking plane out soon we got 15mph winds.


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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/12/2007 7:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I flew my Challanger and Swift yesterday, in 14 MPH winds gusting to 20. It was quite interesting. The winds were strong enough that at full power the plane hovered while climbing. The challenger was more stable in the hover position than the swift, but still the swift was decent, liked to tip to the side. The swift at full power moved foward really slowly, but it was very interesting pulling stunts. With the wind, in 10 seconds, the plane is 300 plus feet away, and took a minute to get back. My first time flying in strong winds. While landing was a tad differ, the Challenger I fly over half power and slowly droped down right beside my feet. The swift still isn't able to fly at that slow of a speed, so i had to land it a little faster fighting the wings tipping due to strong winds. Over all, every landing was beautiful, and exciting. Expecially if you try to do too many stunts in a row and powerdive the plane to ten feet above the ground before you pull out... my heart was beating.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/12/2007 9:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Prop fixed and ready to fly tomorrow! Fiddled around with those 3 switches at bottom of TX and eureka - trim problem solved. Didn't buy sim but investd in flying wing - using the TX from swift and bits and bobs from ME262. Changing prop was a doddle and now have new flying site to try (tarmac for 60ft runway and then drop off to shale football (soccer!!!) pitches - Life does'nt get better than this.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/13/2007 4:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey dudes,
Sorry I've been lagging in my updates, it was an exceptionally hard week of testing. 25 deg F with winds 10kts and above. I only got to fly my Swift
once during the week during a drop to 8 kts. It powered well against the wind but as you might imagine being so light any gust would change the flight path
considerably. I took her back to the hotel for the rest of the week. Check out usairnet.com, under one of the subcats (hanggliding maybe) you can input
your location state/city and get very accurate forcasted winds. I checked the forecasted against our calibrated wx sta and found really accurate results.
Never got to do my ground launch due to winds, shame I had a 300' x 50' CONCRETE runway to work off of. Abandoned AFB's are alot of fun. In addition
to AEAJR, I tend to fly with out the landing gear also, who needs the weight? Just belly er in!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/13/2007 6:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		took swift out today crakced main wing and snapped rear wing,

it says in manual to run a few steps then gently throw (that doesnt work) i have to throw it as hard as i can.


i got a second hand century hummingbird v3 only cost me £60 (£120 new) so saved £60 for when i crash and need repairs

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/14/2007 4:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi al! Mr Aeajr, you seem a fountain of kowledge - can you or ANYONE help a newbie? The swift motor stops after 10 seconds at full throttle and then can start again 2-5 seconds later with same result. Can't get thru to help line in States (are your call centres as bad as ours, and I work in one, international directory enquiries). Shop where I bought on-line said the ESC heating up but only made one pass before cut-out. Tried other 2 batteries but just the same. Batteries had been on trickle long time in house. No loose connections cos I strpped it all down. Manual says if battery not FULLY charged cut out occurs but enough power for controls. Where is the ESC , wot does swift one look like, it it on circuit board?? Someone/anyone please give me some ideas. Not sure if charger on right setting for standard battery and time needed (using 7-8 hours charge). Help!!!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/16/2007 1:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Forget the support lines. Unless they have hired new people, they will only replace the Swift and you will be out postage.

I had the same problem mate. Do an internet search for ZX10 or look up Parkzones Spitfire Mk IIB Instruction Manual. The spitfire has the same radio with much better docs on the radio programming. I suspect the radio has defaulted to the Li Po battery higher voltage and thinks the battery is low voltage, thus cutting off the motor.

Let me know how this works. If needed, I'll E-mail you the manual.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/16/2007 2:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for info - if you have non-flying time could you e-mail the link please - I'm a computer diner, dinersau.....fossil!!!
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/16/2007 2:29 AM   
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www.parkzone.com/ProdInfo/Files/PKZ1700_Spitfire_manual.pdf

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/16/2007 2:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh yeah,

Page 9 and always (always) ALWAYS! have the radio on first. Also, the radio must be turned off last.

I know the manual states the above, but it is very easy to get the sequence reversed. Believe me, I know from experience.

Take a video of your first flight and post it!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/17/2007 4:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		tam popo,

Sorry for the delay in my response. Yes, it's a color coded cable, it's a small black connector with black, red, and white wires that head to 2 other black connectors that plug into the wings to power the aileron servos. Your response pointed me in the right direction, and I dug out the multimeter to check the possible spots to plug that back into. When looking into the canopy toward the tail of the plane from left to right, there's a larger white connector used for the X-port attachments, then one blank spot, then the spot for the aileron cable, then the plug for the elevator. When re-plugging the connector, the black wire goes up top.

Thanks for the help!


aeajr,

While I try not to make it a habit, I did in fact read the manual . I didn't call their tech support because I've been bugging one of the guys there every monday since mid-december about needing a replacement 4-in-1 for my Blade CX/2 heli. I don't want the poor boy to develop a nervous twitch

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/17/2007 9:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		ZDAVEC has the answer to my motor cut out problem followed instruction (my degree in Quantum physics helped!) - now working spot on!! Can't wait to try. Bought the RC planemaster sim (too much money) and the first plane on menu looks and flys like swift - brilliant, I can now really annoy the wife. Still working on a stealth plane that will fly under the wife's bank balance scrutiny without being triggered!!!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/18/2007 9:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		i got the swift out today (no wind) after hand launching really hard it flew great, a little twitchy but does fly nice. flew 2 of 3 batteries (getting about 8mins on a battery at half throttle)

you really do have to come in fast to land (i dont have front wheels on as i land on grass)

then i threw it up when my brother was having another go and i threw it wrong and it crashed went to adjust the elevator and tightened the locking screw back up and it snapped,

i have been searching the net for a spare in the uk but cant find any so i just bent the wire and it seems to hold.


hobbyzone should put a few of these little locking screws in the box for spares (even art tech give you little spare parts like this).


wanting a aerobird extreme to fly in windy conditions now.


finally got the hang of my hummingbird v3 today got a nice hover then lost control as battery was going and it came straight at me so i catched it. (scary at the time but funny now)

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/19/2007 11:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Glad to hear you got a good flight! I don't think there's one standard screw left on my swift - changed the lot for various reasons - quick change, loss, too fiddly etc. Fixed my cut-out engine problem thanks to the info on spitfire listed further up this thread. Why don't they put this info in all tech brochures, its only one page (page 9). Going to get new RX with esc for new project but using swift TX. If the velcro snaps you can get a metre of it from any haberdashery for pennies. Question for our American cousins - do you have access to holidays (1/2 weeks) in hotel with a hangar full of nitro planes - we have (in Greece). Will get the link if anyone interested. You can fly any of the planes while your wife flys your credit card (at altitude!!).

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/21/2007 11:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Crash problem! Canopy came adrift because hinge (thats a laugh) snapped. Taped it up and epoxied but need a more permanent fix - any ideas ANYONE!!
My crashed plane is in hospital - wards 1, 2, 3, 4........

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/22/2007 9:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		you mean your swift? if so i just put a elastic band round it. it works for me, i only had heli out on garden its to windy to take swift up, i need to fly my plane lol

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 2/22/2007 9:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, Swift broken. I put small ring screw in canopy where white nylon thingy screws in (the one that holds the band that is supposed to keep canopy down) - this keeps elastic band from slipping off - other end of band goes around other ringscrew in u/carriage!!!! Bodge up central. Zagi arrives tomorrow (again!!) to keep me airborn while swift being repaired.
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 3/1/2007 12:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		2 weeks of high winds

so i am getting a t maxx 2.5 off road truck (just something to do till winds drop)

i will try and get the swift up when i get that one special day and let you know how it goes.

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 3/1/2007 1:10 AM   
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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 3/1/2007 9:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey guys, Flew my Swift today, in about 5-10 mph winds...Low altitude was fine, got up about 70 feet or so, very Gusty, anyhow...gust caught it, flipped it up on wing and before i knew it..Straight into the ground...Busted up pretty bad...servos still worrk,, but motor doesnt..pulled it out and stuck a 9 volt to it, and it ran...hooked it back up to the bird, and nothing...Any Suggestions?...Answers?...Any would be greatly appreciated......Thanks!

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RE: Official Aerobird Swift Thread - 3/1/2007 10:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hiya! I'm not a tech guy but it sounds like loose connection/broken wire or esc has given up the ghost. When you connect the battry to plane does it still bleep - if it does the esc might need reproraming (see a previous link about resetting using online manual of spitfire). If motor works then it must be electric/electrcnic based. Parts are cheap cos you live where you do - we pay gold plated prices here. Our motto is "if it breaks, strip it and improve" Adapt and modify - dinosaurs didn't, thats why you don't see too many of them around. Good luck.

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