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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 7:27:01 PM   
Bob Laine



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Status: offline 		50+ My modeling career almost parallels your exactly. I've done it all (or at least tried) except helicopters. I just can't find any desire for attempting to learn to fly helicopters. Don't even care to see them fly, but several guy's in the club fly them, and I have no problem with that. To each his, (or her) own. I "bungee" jumped when I was 61. and I was in the airborne in the Army.
Like you.....I believe that if for one to feel the full richness of this hobby(and life), they must reach a little beyond one's comfort point. My Genesis in this hobby also started out with free flight, on to U control, into Single channel flight, ( just controlled free flight) and finally into Proportional control, as it was called back then. Needless to say.....RC airplanes have been an intricate part of my life since I was 16 years old, and the only form of this hobby that I've never tired from. If I had to choose any other aspect of RC, it would be "Boats," even though I only was into the for only one season. I guess I can honestly say than RC airplane is thoroughly ingrained in my blood. Bob

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 7:34:55 PM   
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... I just can't find any desire for attempting to learn to fly helicopters....


Careful, I made the same statements a few years back, now I notice several helis gracing the workshop shelves.


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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 7:37:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know..I Know. It won't be the 1st time either. lol Bob

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 7:58:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am currently challenged in learning to fly e-helis. A small stroke I had in December gave me a major set-back for helis, but I am getting there. The fun I had with a Kyosho Hyper-Fly got me interested in them - - after in 1966 I commented on an article in American Aircraft Modeler "They'll never get model helis to work, just too complicated". I now have the Hyper Fly, a Kyosho EP heli, and a Blade CP.

I think that's the last time I ever said "It'll never work". For anything.

My dad and an older cousin conspired to get me hooked on this stuff about 1948, on my 4th birthday. I think any attempt at withdrawl would put me into terminal shock.

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 8:11:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		50+ I'm glad that your having a good recovery from your stroke. I'll keep you in my prayers. I myself, have just past the 3 year anniversary of my remission of Lung Cancer, and "Chemo therapy" Kinda puts things in perspective doesn't it? Bob

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 8:12:46 PM   
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I don't get it. It seems like 8 out 10 of the guys in my club fly ARF"s that all look the same. I ask them why, and they give me every excuse in the book. Are they Intimidated by kits or just to lazy. The most common excuse is not enough time. Bull, what do they do in the winter when they would normally be flying. That is your time and in the spring you would have one or two planes that did't look like everyone else's!!! If this trend of ARF's continues there won't be any kits for us die-hard kit builders to build. Tell me your reason for not building!

Gibbs


So sorry Gibbs, I fly year round, don't you? I would rather fly than build, but I have built and rebuilt lots of ARFs and kits.

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 8:38:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bob, congradulations on your third anniversary. The building aspect of this sport/hobby makes great therapy, doesn't it? We have a couple club members who can no longer fly, because of health problems, but are still active and supplement their incomes by building kits and assembling ARFs for others. Another good reason to have people who don't want to be bothered with the time needed to build. Those of us who do have a potential source of income.

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 8:45:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Best of luck on your recovery 50+ Modelling is good therapy.

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 8:46:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Congratulations Bob!
That's one anniversary for which I can truly wish you "many more".

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 8:50:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't worry about the hobby being gone in 20 years, that's just silly People will get into the hobby and those that really love it will explore; the people that would really like building kits will eventually build one and fall in love and those that don't like to build won't. Despite what many people think, kids today have alot in common with kids of yesteryear. The difference between then and now is that then you didn't HAVE a choice, you built or did without.



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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 8:52:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		On another post, I just sent in a reply on a good reason to encourage people who don't want to build, for whatever the reason, to continue to buy ARFs and kits. More than a few of them are also more than willing to pay someone to assemble an ARF to flight ready, or pay even more to build and equip a kit. Also, the more of them you can attract, the bigger your club treasury to support your flying field.

Whoops, that was this subject. Work is just interrupting my train of thought on the important matters. And my train derails easier every year, it seems. Now, what was I supposed to be doing????

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 9:19:40 PM   
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Happy my thread is giving you two some enjoyment. I also am happy for both of you and hope you have a long healthy future. This hobby and kit building is great therapy for almost anything that ales you. I do it for release and stress. It works wonders. Whether I'm building, flying, or reading threads on RCU. By the way I am looking for a Midwest Products Cherokee .40, you two or anyone else that reads this I would really appreciate buying one. I have one now that is a replica of my full size PA-28 140. Shes a hanger queen. I want another one to fly. If I can't find one I'll have to use the plans and scratch build one. Problem is I won't be able to get the canopy. I can get the cowling from Fiberglass Specialties. Maybe somebody has a canopy from one that may have crashed! Let me KNOW!!!

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 10:03:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Having a hobby/sport like this is great therapy. I remember in grade school having to do a paper on some hero type who overcame some kind of major problem. I just happened to read a story in the old Bobby Benson and the B-Bar-B ranch comic about someone who in high school put his hand through a safety glass window and got major muscle and nerve damage (Back in the days when safety glass was two layers of tempered glass sandwiching a layer of wire mesh). His doctor recommended taking up contr0ol line flying to excersize the hand. I forget the name right now, but for some reason the name George Aldrich comes to mind. He needed to have a special glove made, but he went on to become a famous designer and world class competition flyer. The composition got me an A, in the days before "Educators" started preaching against actually grading classwork, because a lower grade than his peers might "Upset someone's ego and sense of worth and self-image". BTW, this comic was one of those All American Boy style publications that not only had many fictional adventure type stories, but also a lot of trail lore, camping and nature hints, hobby related things, and short biographies about real people. There was even a radio serial about the ranch.
I also remember reading about another modeler who in the mid 40s was told by his doctor he only had 3 to 5 years to live because of a degenerative heart condition. Although he went into model railroading and not model airplanes, over 25 years later, his Gorre and Daphetid (pronounced Gory and Defeated) became a classic example on how to model. I think John Allen was still amazing his doctors and extending his legend until the early 1970s.

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 10:07:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, NCIS, you could carve a plug of the canopy, heat a sheet of clear plastic, and pull it over the plug. Sometimes you might find a clear plastic jug that would work, too.

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RE: AFR'S WHY NOT KITS - 8/18/2006 10:40:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's just what I was fixing to suggest. Just carve a plug out of wood....place a sheet of clear "heavy duty" plastic on top of the plug warm the oven up to about 125 or so degrees and presto.........Canopy. "Oh-Oh" I forgot since I'm not a regular builder anymore, I'm not suppose to know those tricks. Sorry Bob

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