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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/19/2007 1:00:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi guys,

here u can see a few pictures of a BL Savage. It is funny to hear opinions like "these conversions are for sissies" or even "they are slow".
The motor used in the shown Savage is a 1.8KW (watts, not horsepower) Plettenberg ... this might appear "weak" on a data sheet, but the efficiency of electrical motors is way higher than those of nitro engines. They do also have a very constant (high) torque, not to be compared with nitro engines that create max. torque in a small area of rotational speed. I disagree that it runs circles about those powered by nitro engines - but if it is equipped with a good BL motor - it won't fear any nitro powered monster truck. (dual BL setups are also possible...).

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Lab

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/20/2007 10:53:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I run Nitro and Electric monster trucks. I have a Savage SS 4.6, Savage 25, Jato 3.3, and a RS4 car, AND an E-savage, and a E-maxx which i just converted to brushelss because my E-Savage was way faster.
Basically it all comes down to "Different strokes for Different folks".
Your not a sissy because you run electric, their a hell of alot easier to work on and you don't have to worry about tuning and the change in temperature. But then again Nitro is fun as heck too! The sound , the speed, it's awesome!
It also comes down to where you live also, i'm deployed to Kazakstan right now and it is WAY to cold to run Nitro here, so thats why i bought electric trucks and they will run awesome in the cold weather.
Sure their not as fast stock in the top end BUT they will get out of the hole ALOT faster! Try seeing what has more pulling power an E-maxx or E-Savage Vs. any nitro truck. A nitro has to spool up, where the electric will just GO , pull the other truck around. Convert an electric to brushless and they can be just as fast if not faster then a Nitro truck.

Basically it all comes down to what you want and what fits you needs better. I like them both!

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/20/2007 10:56:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just for the record stock Vs. stock. The E-savage will tear up an E-maxx in almost every category. I tested them both because i own both of them! SO whoever said an E-maxx is better than an E-savage obvisouly DOSEN'T OWN an E-savage.

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/20/2007 5:35:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		the question is who cares about stock vs stock. upgradeability might become a very important argument in the medium run. so there are always lots of arguments to consider. and everybody gives them a different weight. so what is "better" can never be a general judgement but only a subjective decision for yourself. different people have different preferences what might alter their perception of what is "better" strongly.

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/21/2007 1:29:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		hi, I'm a beginner i just got a e-savage and i have had it for about 5 days, it's made a clicking or poping sound sence i have had it, somewhere in the drivetrain, i think! i can only hear it when the batteries are going dead. the drivtrain doesn't seem to bind up at all. could someone tell me what's wrong or is this normal?

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/21/2007 8:26:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Haha with the right amount of money that arguement is limitless. You can do anything to any truck, make it faster, more durable, handle better, if you have the $ to do so. SO compairing stock vs. stock is the only way to gauge which is better out of the box right. Like I SAID ALSO, different stokes for different folks. You basically said exactly what i did!


anewman12001 ~ I noticed the same thing a few times. but i havent had any problems, i checked over everything and it all LOOKED fine, no binding either. I just re charge the batteries and i never have a problem, I look at it as an indicator my batts are going dead. I keep running it and nothing has happened yet. I kind of had a similar problem with my E-Maxx and it ended up being the spur gear was stripped. Quick easy fix.


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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/23/2007 1:49:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JUCD VPR

Haha with the right amount of money that arguement is limitless. You can do anything to any truck, make it faster, more durable, handle better, if you have the $ to do so. SO compairing stock vs. stock is the only way to gauge which is better out of the box right.


I do not agree on this one - even if you HAVE the money you're doomed if there are no upgrade parts available for your truck. Well, custom made parts maybe ($$$).
Older trucks have well known flaws- and it is (for me) important to know that I can replace these parts with better ones (and do not have to buy the original part 10 or 20 times...).

So - I think that "upgradability" is an issue.

Lab

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/23/2007 2:57:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		...I understand you POV Labrador but have to disagree; kind of...On the REAL (ahem) E-Savage site we have all sorts of users from the noob with his FIRST ever vehicle to the hard-core veteran who has built almost everything...I think ANY part in an RTR can be upgraded...From the smallest screw to the whole drivetrain...I run my E-Sav with Hellfire shocks and GP savage hubs and uprights!!

...But to bring this back to the E-Savage it IS a truck which doesnt need as MANY upgrades as say, ANOTHER similar truck of a similar brand

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/23/2007 3:26:12 AM   
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...I understand you POV Labrador but have to disagree;


Pardon my ignorance - what is a POV?

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ORIGINAL: BitHed
kind of...On the REAL (ahem) E-Savage site we have all sorts of users from the noob with his FIRST ever vehicle to the hard-core veteran who has built almost everything...I think ANY part in an RTR can be upgraded...From the smallest screw to the whole drivetrain...I run my E-Sav with Hellfire shocks and GP savage hubs and uprights!!


..they can be upgraded, if such parts are available. I don't see the dissension here. Some trucks need more, some need less upgrades to work flawlessly, no doubt about that.
BTW: I was not talking about any particular truck - just one thing I keep in mind when choosing a new truck.

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...But to bring this back to the E-Savage it IS a truck which doesnt need as MANY upgrades as say, ANOTHER similar truck of a similar brand


Yeah, the old Savage 25SS was a real mess! With about a ton of upgrades it is nearly as reliable as a MTA4 out of the box . I like challenges.

The E-Savage is really a cute one, saw it first (well it was called E-Zilla?!) on a rc shop opening. But that was too late, I already converted a regular Savage into an electronic battery eating toy

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/23/2007 3:50:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		...pov is point of view...sorry...

...true...a GP conversion to brushless is also a nice mod to do...

...My (not very good OR clear) point was that if a user REALLy wants to mod something they will...But the E-Savage is a GREAT base for modding...We are already seeing different parts show up on it here and there...Sorry...a weak attempt at trying to get back to the E-Sav

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/23/2007 9:17:29 AM   
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the point of upgradeability is of course not only if a car needs it. the point is that many people just want to change and do something nice to their truck. only a few rc freaks (at least those that i know) leave their car as it is out of the box. and yes as it is certainly possible to mod things on the e savage there are not yet really nice and important upgrades available that you can just buy. and you can not fabricate everything on your own. and just change some optical things like shocks, tires etc is not really strengthening the truck. but i am in good hope that things will change in this respect. it would be nice to upgrade an e savage that is really ready for serious bl power.

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/24/2007 4:50:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		oh man im leaning towards the e savage. i can get it for $300 at towerhobbies with my $30 discount and free shipping. i have three 3300 mah batteries already. i have a stampede but now im looking for 4wd and dont care to mod anymore.

im not looking to race just something durable and tough that can take a beating. just some 3 to 5 foot jumps tops. something i dont really need to mod. should i just order it? i will be selling the stampede if i do. i had a good time with it. i did so many mods, bearings, aluminum pinion, smasher 2000s, rpm wide front bumper, metal gear servo, deans and more. so much time and money invested. it even has a brand new hummer body. i just dont have time and dont want to be modding and modding anymore. i want 4wd most of all.

does the esavage look like a good fit for me?

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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/24/2007 4:51:22 AM   
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RE: HPI E-Savage - 1/24/2007 7:09:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		...I think you will love the E-Sav...It isnt fragile at all and it sounds as though it will fit what you want it to do...

...Unfortunatley many first time EP truck users are blinded by the TRAXXAS propoganda-machine and cant see very much beyond the E-Maxx Read up some more on the E-Savage and you will be able to decide for yourself if it is what you want

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