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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/4/2006 10:32:06 AM

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On the other hand I have heard issues with CA models and Comp ARF, and the Brio.

Which is such a shame, as two of them are great flying models....
But one thing---I really have to admire the chap who does the paint job on the ARF Genesis---I saw a white gelcoat fus from the base kit recently, and it must take hours and hours to get it ready for that artwork.....

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/4/2006 1:17:03 PM

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Actually, I think their paint scheme likely makes it easier to hide imperfections in the fuse.

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/4/2006 2:23:19 PM

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The Genesis fuse looks like a potato sack in kit form. It takes whole lot of work to get it looking decent. Mike

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/4/2006 4:44:23 PM

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your airplane looks great mike!....I've heard that the Genesis fuses don't hold up well to the 4 cycles. Any truth to that?

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/4/2006 6:00:36 PM

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So how does one company going under affect the performance of another companies models?

Unlike others here I'm not taking hits at you ZN models. Rather you seem to be defending them tooth and nail. Just like you do your electric stuff.

A little hint we believe you and you can stop beating the drum.

The Zeque is a beautiful model. I would like to own one as that once in a lifetime model.

The S2Pro version of the model at $5k but I bet the Oxai one flies the same and is actually available to be purchased by us mere mortals. Seems like a deal when you consider some of the models that are out there today and have the huge problems with quality control like the Impacted, and the Genesis issues. I have not heard from any OXAI pilots about bad stuff with their models. On the other hand I have heard issues with CA models and Comp ARF, and the Brio.

So is there anything you guys have to complain about with them other than the price?
Any Oxai pilots have something to say about problems they have seen with the models?

Other than the wings being a little heavy (pinnacle build), I do not think there is anything to dislike. The designs, craftsmanship, degree of completion, beautiful finish is unmatched anywhere except perhaps those made in Japan. I personally plan on buying an Oxai for my next plane when I need one because they can do a better job than I can for less money. That is always my crossover point. Before Oxai came around, there were no sources of nearly ready to fly pattern models of sufficient quality for less than $5k. There has never been a supplier that could offer spare parts with matching paint that fit as good as the originals. Oxai has figured out what the consumer wants.

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/4/2006 6:11:20 PM

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Hey Gregg I havn't had any problems with the strength of the fuse. The guys who got the carbon fiber version are a little. Mike

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your airplane looks great mike!....I've heard that the Genesis fuses don't hold up well to the 4 cycles. Any truth to that?

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/6/2006 2:33:10 PM

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Forgive my ignorance but why move the canopy so far forward? Don't you want the side area in line with the cg? Or does the longer lower canopy give a bigger sweet spot of side area?

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/6/2006 6:38:22 PM

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Forgive my ignorance but why move the canopy so far forward? Don't you want the side area in line with the cg? Or does the longer lower canopy give a bigger sweet spot of side area?

I think it's important to recognise that most (as in the vast majority)of jap' designed pattern planes have always had a forward canopy position.
This isn't neccessarily a Eastern thing though. If you look back to the designs of the 70's, Curare, Atlas etc they also featured a similar design.
CPLR gained a great deal of interest with his Capise (midish canopy) model in the later 90's, you soon found extended Giles, Extra even Zlinn look a likes popping up all over the pattern scene.
It wasn't long before the ol' Frenchy decided this certainly wasn't the direction to go and promtly returned to the standard canopy forward principle that had served him well and continues to do to this day. On the US front, Dave Gurin penned quite a few cab forward looking planes that where in action late into the 90's. Chip Hydes Hydeout (designed together with DG) broke the trend and adopted a midish canopy area. Seemly this was done simple because the Hydeout was indended to be a biplane (thus the rearward canaopy) but due to the lack of power available in the YS. 1.40 FZ days... they simply dropped the top wind and flew the model as a monoplane! And did very well with it... nobody else couldn't get a spark... but he did just fine. A tribute to his outstanding skill with the thumbs and not with the pencil if ever there was one.

What is certainly open to debate is the thick body rear of the GC body. A great many people are questioning it's value. It certain has a negative effect on cross wing flying.
What seems to be happening with Pattern design is a return to a forward placed wing thus giving a long tail moment to aid tracking (seriously compromised by the super light wieght.. super thick bodied planes flying slow) Smaller wings to aid snaping and rolling. Tall body design instead of wide body, cab' forward as mentioned and I would eventually expect a slimmer rear body.
Mind you. these super top fliers fly well using just about anything. As you see, the top 10 in the world all fly very different airplanes so it's ain't the airframe thats making them great!

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/7/2006 3:10:02 PM

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I guess I will keep my Prophecy!

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/7/2006 8:35:43 PM

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From what Quique said, the more forward the canopy, the more drag there is on the airframe. I guess since there's more surface area for the wind to pass around, it's a function of skin drag.

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/8/2006 1:37:48 AM

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True, but one would assume that the forward canopy helps give a CP closer to, and forward of the CG which should in turn mean less AoA on knife edge flight.

I like the look, always have, but then again, I still like the look of the old pattern ships too

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/26/2006 3:24:45 PM

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Here's a little something coming out at the end of October 2006 . . How do I know? We are getting two of 'em delivered to Australia . .

It is the "Zeque 70" from Hokusei Models in China. Sure, a bit small . . but nice to chuck in the car and head to the field for schedule or 4 ! ? ! . . Recommended motor is the YS63S ..

We plan to fly these regularly while competing with an Arresti 2M . . BEFORE building a couple of Mike Hesters very sweet Black Magics for 2007. Mike's BM's look great, build light . . and have the results to prove it ! ! . . Second at the US Nats at any level is a fantastic accomplishment for both model and pilot. I am not sure about the similarities of the two models, all I believe is that there is only so much you can really do to a design and have it optimized for todays schedules . . so I guess they are all going to look similar is most ways ! ? ! ?

Cheers, Jeff

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 9/26/2006 7:08:18 PM

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www.hokusei-hk.com can help for exporting Hokusei models including the above Zeque70.

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 6/16/2007 5:53:59 PM

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Hey Guys,

Any one have any pictures or info on when the new Zeque electric will be released? Will this electric version have top access and a two piece wing?

Thanks,

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RE: OXAI announced new Zeque - 6/16/2007 6:20:25 PM