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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/7/2008 9:38:43 AM   
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HOLY CRAP BATMAN....Reiko you are nuts....wow..

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/8/2008 3:34:38 AM   
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Whats up guys. What a great forum. Reiko, you are a master craftsman....Since I don't have the funds, or machining equipment necessary to build a "one off," I am in the process of fine tuning my x-factor 2 into a rock climbing beast. I have to consider us nitro rock crawlers more of rockclimbers, being that we arent able to slowly creep, because of all of the previously stated gearing and torque issues. Reiko will probably be the first viable nitro rock crawler out there -- and I can't wait to see it. I have been fascinated with the liquid cooling ideas floating around for nitro ngines, and I wanted to get some expert opinions from you guys on my idea.

How about modding one of the rc electric boat cooling kits?? Place the aluminum coil inteneded for the electric engine, over the nitro cooling head, and then run tubing to a small fuel tank filled with a 50/50 mixture of antifreeze and water. the side of the tank can be easily drilled and fitted with a small electric 9 volt motor. Attach a small impeller on the motor shaft, and then it should feed a continuous supply of coolant to the coils. Obviously, proper positioning of the impeller is key to ensure positive and continuous flow. A small nova cooling fan could then be directed toward the coils to help maintain a lower temp. Space constraint issues would be the 9 volt battery, and the coolant tank. Do you guys think that this idea is worth pursuing? Please shoot me soe feedback, so I can first se e weather or not that this idea is viabe before I start planning it out further.


It sounds like a good idea, and one that will certainly save some weight over more complex systems. The space limitations don't look too difficult to overcome, either. I think a small tank would be fine so long as there is adequate ventilation and/or some heat sinking. Some cooling fins to allow for better dissipation would work wonders in helping the fan. This way the tank could indeed remain small (maybe 4oz. or so) and keep from taking too much chassis space.

The motor shaft would need an o-ring or some other type of seal. This will also need to withstand a few hundred degrees of heat as well as the glycol itself. Once that motor begins to circulate the coolant, each part of the system can aid in it's heat dissipation. Just remember that once it's heated, it will build pressure and require room for expansion or some type of simple regulation. The pressure relief that I made is just a ball and spring, and will take time to adjust for proper operation. To me, this is the trickiest part of building a recirculating liquid system.

Keep us posted on your ideas and progress

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/8/2008 4:19:44 AM   
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Also you will need something to act as a radiator. You will be only circulating heated water again and again.

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/8/2008 4:57:06 PM   
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A radiator? Why would that be necessary?

I guess I left that out

It is tough to find a radiator less than 4" square, but I'm sure they're out there to be found. A good source for small liquid components is computer cooling parts. There are small pumps, tubing, and other devices that can withstand a bit of heat and are compact. Some copper tubing bent in a zigzag pattern with some thin fins strategically placed can work also.

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/8/2008 5:18:10 PM   
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i don't know if they will dissipate enough heat for nitro purposes, but
http://www.xoxide.com/radiator.html
most of them are 120 mm X 3/4 , but some are 80 mm

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/9/2008 1:56:21 AM   
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i think if some one could make a belt drive it would work and be cool

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/9/2008 7:29:44 AM   
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i dont really think the nitro will be running hard enough to need water cooling...

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/9/2008 2:14:29 PM   
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i don't know if they will dissipate enough heat for nitro purposes, but
http://www.xoxide.com/radiator.html
most of them are 120 mm X 3/4 , but some are 80 mm


They have a great selection of small radiators, and it looks like several can mimic the real thing. Pretty cool

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i dont really think the nitro will be running hard enough to need water cooling...


You're probably right when it comes to smaller engines. Maybe just a fan to keep air moving across the cooling fins since a crawler moves at such slow speeds. For some larger displacement engines, I think a regulated cooling system would be quite an asset, but still not completely necessary. My engine may do nothing but generate power for the electronics. It could be under a decent load depending upon the size of the generator/motor.

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/10/2008 12:24:24 AM   
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this is true, i think having the motor run at a near constant speed(low throttle at idle) would simplify the cooling situation i.e only kicks in when needed. however i have a .70 and even hauling around the savage it doesnt hit 200... could just be that motor. now what happens to all the extra juice when your at partial throttle? seems something would heat up

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/14/2008 6:06:55 AM   
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I am currently using a nova cooling head on my 24.7 engine, with a 2" fan pointed directly at it. I've been really succesfull in keeping low temps with this set up, even when moving at a constant snail's pace. I'm still looking forward to Reiko's cooling system in operation.

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/17/2008 1:55:12 AM   
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hey whats up every one? i just bought my first truck and its awseome. I have a team associated MGT8.0, i just got a roll cage for it. i want to turn it ino a rock craller but still want to bash it. its pretty buch set. all i need is to know where to get those plastic sides for it. Here it is.


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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/17/2008 2:48:02 AM   
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hey whats up every one? i just bought my first truck and its awseome. I have a team associated MGT8.0, i just got a roll cage for it. i want to turn it ino a rock craller but still want to bash it. its pretty buch set. all i need is to know where to get those plastic sides for it. Here it is.




Thats just tooooo Clean to be a crawler!!! Go Get it Dirty then come back and ask!!!

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/17/2008 4:59:22 PM   
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Thats just tooooo Clean to be a crawler!!! Go Get it Dirty then come back and ask!!!


Dude I crashed it like five times, spent $200 repairing it. I'm waiting for my roll cage it comes in friday!!! but i need to know where to get the plastic sides. and i clean mine

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RE: Nitro Rock Crawlers Only - 1/17/2008 11:48:49 PM   
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Hey dogman,
If you build the nitro rock crawler tell me how coz i want one.....
Wat happened to the heli engine idea, you still gonna go with it,i have a 38 and run it on the bench with the cooling shroud on in all weather and speeds and it never gets hot and produces loads of bottom end torque.i have ran it on a 12inch prop,just to see if it would break,call me crazy,it was cheep on ebay, i was gona mount it in my blizzard.
The question about the nitro blizzard, I have one, the engine sits inside an enclosed cab and runs to a two speed gearbox, when it runs at low speed it gets really hot hence the fan,the fan runs off a pulley attached to the drive shaft independant of the clu