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Fliton Inspire Mini - 8/29/2006 2:23 PM   
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I'm reviewing the new Inspire Mini from Fliton. Like it's big brother, this aircraft is lightweight while offering a very robust and solid construction. A two-piece removable main wing, joined with a carbon wing tube conveniently aids in transportation and durability.

The Inspire Mini offers high aerobatic and unlimited 3D performance with excellent slow speed stability. Takeoffs are also smooth and the plane floats in for landings. The build itself is very fast and straightforward, as a true 95% pre-built ARF should be.

The Inspire Mini is equipped with many additional great features such as a large removable top hatch, pre-cut & painted fiberglass cowl, carbon wing tube, carbon elevator & rudder pushrods, pre-slotted servo mounts, a 3" velcro strip, an easyUP motor mount assembly, and, upgraded wheels. A new instruction manual format provides easy assembly and suggestions for support products.

Features:

  • Carbon Wing Tube
  • Improved Step-by-Step Manual
  • Large Removable Top Hatch
  • Fliton Durahorns
  • CA Hinges
  • Custom Decal Sheet
  • Upgraded Wheels
  • FRP Wheel Pants
  • Pre-cut & Painted FRP Cowl
  • Lasercut Motor Mount
  • Carbon Pushrods (Elevator & Rudder)
  • FRP Landing Gears
  • 3" Velcro Strip
  • Servo Slots
  • Sealed Covering

Specifications:

  • Wingspan: 1,000 mm (39.37 inches)
  • Length: 1,047 mm (41.22 inches)
  • Flying Weight: 652 ~ 680g (23 ~ 24 oz)
  • Empty Weight: 278g (9.84 oz)
  • Wing Loading: 10.75 oz/ft2


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 8/29/2006 2:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		The packaging for the Inspire Mini was top-notch. All the parts were properly protected in the box and covered with plastic. The smaller parts were grouped together in bags.

My draft copy of the 18 page manual was well written and organized. It included suggestions for several power system setups.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 8/29/2006 5:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		A closer look at the fuselage reveals superior construction techniques to keep the plane light and still strong. The large removable top hatch fits perfectly on the fuselage.

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 8/30/2006 4:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		The advanced wing construction is designed as a two-piece removable main wing which is joined with a carbon wing tube shown in the parts photo above wrapped in foam. This is unusually high-quality for a 40" 3D plane.

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 8/31/2006 1:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		For a size comparison, I put the Inspire Mini fuselage next to my 37.6" (955mm) span Fliton ICON 312. The 39.37 inch (1,000 mm) span Inspire Mini is noticeably larger in all dimensions. Both the ICON 312 and the newer Inspire Mini require 200w-300w power systems for 3D capability.

I'll be using the PM280824C Combo from Hobby Lobby that includes an AXI 2808/24 and Jeti JESAP30 30-amp controller. I'll also use the PM280802 Radial Mount Set for mounting the motor to the easyUP motor mount assembly.

For my review of the Fliton ICON 312, go here.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 9/3/2006 1:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		The assembly begins by cutting away some covering on several areas of the fuselage.

The ailerons are attached to the wing with 4 hinges and thin CA.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 9/5/2006 3:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		The aileron servos mounted very easy as the bays are designed for Hitec HS-55 or HS-56 servos. The control horns are nicely secured with an extra plywood piece that comes with pilot holes for the screws to sink into. The pre-bent control rods just needed to be trimmed at the servo arm.

I centered the servo electrically using a receiver and Rx. pack. When using the outer servo arm hole and center control horn hole, I obtained a 45 degree aileron swing in either direction from center which will be perfect for 3D flying.

My receiver is the glitch-free, dual conversion M5 v2 from FMA Direct.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 9/9/2006 12:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		The rudder and elevator hinges were secured with thin CA after positioning them in place and testing for a 45 degree swing in either direction. The left elevator half is glued in place first and then the right half. I used medium CA and kicker to connect the joiner to the right wing half. Remember to check the alignment of both wing halves before applying the kicker.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 9/9/2006 10:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		My power system for the Inspire Mini is the PM280824C AXI 2808/24 and Jeti JESAP30 30-amp ESC combo. The PM280802 Radial Mount Set for AXI 2808 Series is also needed.

My battery is the CP0012150-3S Cellpro 3-cell (20C) 2150mAh LiPo pack.

Note that the mating motor connectors come with the Jeti ESC and my battery connector is a Dean's Ultra.

This will provide a burst power level of 3 * 3.6v * 30 amps = 324 watts. Note that the 20C LiPo pack can provide burst current up to 43 amps and the Jeti 30-amp ESC can handle 30amps continuous.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 9/10/2006 10:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		The laser cut motor mount assembles like a puzzle and locks together even before it is glued. The top piece is left off until after it is mounted onto the firewall. I first used some medium CA and kicker to hold the mount together and then reinforced it with some 5-minute ZAP Z-poxy in the corner joints.

The AXI motor was mounted before attaching the mount to the firewall. This assembly sequence made it a bit easier to drill the holes and cut away small tabs for the radial mount (or x-mount) to fit properly. The AXI motor was attached using #6 hardware with 4 screws, washers, lock washers, and nuts that I supplied. The screws were also dabbed with Pacer Z-42 thread locker to keep things from coming apart in flight.

The last step is to attach the top piece of the mount and glue it in place.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 9/12/2006 9:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The elevator and rudder control horns are pre-made so it was a simple task to install the servos and hook up the linkages. Instead of using the supplied quick links, I decided to use Dubro #849 Micro E-Z Links for added security from slipping and less play in the linkage. The metal control horns use a plywood piece for the opposite side of the control surface for a solid mount.

My rudder servo is a Futaba S3110 Micro High Torque servo. These little gems have 22oz/in torque with a blazing speed of 0.1 sec. Great for 3D flying!


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 9/13/2006 7:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic (FRP) landing gear design is quite elite with pre-drilled holes in the wheel pants and fuselage. You need only drill the holes in the gear mains. All hardware is included. I use small amounts of Pacer Z-42 thread locker to keep the nuts from moving. The manual recommends adding some epoxy inside the wheel pant to keep the nuts secure.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 9/30/2006 1:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just picked this plane up today, did you ever finish the review?

I don't see it under the review section.

How did it turn out?

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/1/2006 6:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry, both life and work keep getting in the way of my R/C projects. I am almost finished with the build and then we'll get Team JR's, Devin McGrath to give the Inspire Mini a good 3D workout. You'll see the finished photos, flying photos, and video right here on this thread before I submit the review to RCU.

The detachable wings are a very elite design for this smaller size model. The carbon tube and keyed slots provide great strength and perfect alignment. For extreme high-G maneuvers, the manual recommends gluing the wing to the fuselage but we will test it out in stock removable form.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/1/2006 6:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		The clear plastic canopy needs to be cut to size and then screwed onto the removable hatch. Note how the front prongs and side tabs keep the hatch in place and perfectly aligned.

Although the stock method of holding the hatch down is to use the supplied screws, it would be an easy task to mount tiny rare Earth magnets underneath to make a convenient latch.

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/3/2006 2:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I ran into a problem with mine, I glued the elevator halves together like it said to do in the manual and they are not even.

I'm not sure how to go about fixing it, one is pretty obviously higher than the other.

Also were you able to get the wheel pants to work correctly? I'm having difficulty with those as well.

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/4/2006 4:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would assume you will have to cut the hinges and start over. I always double check the factories when doing arfs. On a thicker stab you could possibly slide an x acto in below and above and cut one loose. Not sure if you could do that on this.

On another note. I just picked one of these up for 89 bucks on E ba. With a Fliton 3 cell 1500. I'm still shocked. LOL

Can't wait till it gets here.

I may try the new 2217/16 on this plane. It saves a half an ounce with the jeti 18. Not much but I hear this plane fly's better light.
It will be an interesting comparison anyway.

Did you see axi's new site yet? They have alot of new features to help make decision making easier.

http://www.modelmotors.cz/en/index.php?page=1

Looking forward to the review!

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/4/2006 4:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's a heck of a good deal, are you getting it used or NIB?

I'm running the "Moderate Flying Setup" as spec'd on the Fliton Website. It was the setup I had in my Mini Extra before I hit a basketball pole... dohh...

My problem with the elevators is that when one is level (neutral elevator) the other is slightly (up elevator) not that the hinge slots are higher on one side of the stab than the other.

I'm trying to figure out if I can cut them apart where they join, somehow make them even and then re-join them somehow, but I dont think I can do it witout tearing up the plane pretty good.

I might jut fly it the way it is and see what happens, but I'm afraid it's going to want to roll when I put in up or down elevator. Bummer... I'm not to fond of the joining technique they use.



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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/4/2006 4:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I got it NIB.. I know, I can't believe it either.

Are you talking about the elevator joiner. That you didn't get joined together flat from one side to the other.
A pic would help.

Dublin huh? I'm through there everyday. Where do you fly? EBRC? I fly out of Tracy..

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/6/2006 12:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes the elevator joiner, the actual joiner is glued together flat, it must be warped or something. I'll get a pic.

I used to live in Dublin, I never flew down there, I lived there for a year, and can't seem to get it changed here on RCU.

I'm in Sacramento now and fly at Mather.



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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/6/2006 12:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		What kind of glue did you use? Epoxy?? You may be able to get a flat putty knife, or a thinner blade, maybe a square xacto blade, heat it up. Obviously protecting your hands, and slide it underneath the carbon. I'm not familiar with the system they used yet as my kit hasn't arrived yet. Did they use a rod or a flat piece of carbon. Hopefully it's the flat one. Should be able to get the heated blade under it.
We have a pattern contest in Sacramento this weekend. At the SAM club..

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/7/2006 5:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I just maidened mine at the local park. I'm running the Hacker A20-20L with X20 Hacker Speed control, Thunder Power 1320 and APC 10X4.7SF. I only got about 7 minutes out of it, which seems less than I would have expected but I was flying around half throttle the whole time. It would hover at around 3/4 or so. I didn't notice I had a pretty good warp in the left aileron so I had to put in some pretty major trim to get it to fly strait and level. I don't think my elevators are off enough to really cause much of a problem as soon as I get the warp out of the aileron I think it will be a pretty good flyer. It did inverted really well, knife edge was good, it didn't spin real well but I only tried once and the CG is towards the front of the recommended range. It seemed to track real well, but I have some cheapie servos on the ailerons so they weren't centering consistantly. I need to replace those with some e-flite S75's like I have on the tail and then they will be good. Overall I'm pretty happy with it, it does knife edge better than the 330mini I had before, and I think I will end up swapping in the A30-28 and a Tp2100 and see how she does.

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/8/2006 12:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting. I'm going to run at least 1500mah 20c lipos in it. Dunno, I may go to 1800's. Although I'll probably run 2100
s in my EF Extra. Just don't want the extra weight in the mini of the 2100's.
Too many decisions.. haha

What packs are you running? You may want to upgrade to 20c packs. Makes a huge difference. Although, I'm sure you know.

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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/10/2006 5:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		The last step of assembly is to mount the cowl and prop. The cowl mounts with two screws on each side and I added a GWS rubber spinner onto the AXI prop shaft for a more finished look.

Note the excellent air cooling design in the cowl.


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RE: Fliton Inspire Mini - 10/10/2006 5:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		My Fliton Inspire Mini was ready to fly at 25.5oz when using the 6.5oz 3-cell Cellpro 2150mAh (20C) pack.

When using an APC 10x4.7 SF prop, the power system provided 320 watts at 31amps. That's 200w/lb!

Team JR/Team Fliton's Devin McGrath is guaranteed to have some fun on the upcoming test flights.


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