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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/9/2013 4:39 PM

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Rich just a fyi. The sump tanks you are referring to on big D were not to collect and get rid of bilge water but were what we refer to in RVs as grey water tanks.Since I only see the two of them it is possible they were also black water tanks for the heads. Notice there are two of them each near cabins with lavs. It is very possible they also would empty overboard in those days before the polution controls were put in place. Even heads emptied overboard in those days.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/9/2013 4:44 PM

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Bill - "Everybody, we're going to stop for a swim... nobody flush please!"

Rich, I wouldn't think there's enough pressure for water to force iteslf through the tube, past the pump and into the hull. My only point of reference is how much pressure is necessary to get water to travel through my cooling coils (a lot).

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/9/2013 4:45 PM

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That is why I usually try to stay away from water cooling. with my real life experience and I have seen videos of RC boats sinking that appeared to be hoses coming off since there was no other obvious reason. So far only the Red Baron is water cooled.

BTW did you see the fire that happened to the Boeing 767 Dreamliner at Logan was caused by a lithium battery? Boeing took a big stock market hit from it.

Bill

I haven't seen the news yet but it's crazy that such a small battery can do so much damage under the right cconditions.

I am skeptical to put the pump outlet there because an rcboat pump isn't the same as a full sized boat pump. i'm concerned that any water that washes back will drain into the tank and will have to constantly be pumped. Thinking more about it I might raise it up a bit but in that case I should just put it wherever it's most convenient. I'm a bit afraid at this point to make the boat more vulnerable than it has to be. We'll see..

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/9/2013 4:47 PM

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Bill - "Everybody, we're going to stop for a swim... nobody flush please!"

Rich, I wouldn't think there's enough pressure for water to force iteslf through the tube, past the pump and into the hull. My only point of reference is how much pressure is necessary to get water to travel through my cooling coils (a lot).

Very true!! Good point! I couldn't get mine to work at all.

-Rich.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/9/2013 4:50 PM

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Rich just a fyi. The sump tanks you are referring to on big D were not to collect and get rid of bilge water but were what we refer to in RVs as grey water tanks.Since I only see the two of them it is possible they were also black water tanks for the heads. Notice there are two of them each near cabins with lavs. It is very possible they also would empty overboard in those days before the polution controls were put in place. Even heads emptied overboard in those days.

Bill

another great point!! Do you happen to see the bilge outlet anywhere?

-Rich.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/9/2013 5:07 PM

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Hi captains,

So I found the best time to possibly sail this boat on the Hudson.

It would be Saturday morning when the tide is high at 10:05 AM. So I think sailing the around 10AM or so would be good. It will also be sunny with a high of 58 degrees and the winds will be light at only be 4mph. Does anyone want to meet up for a mission on the Hudson?

-Rich.

Hi Bill..Are you available for a Saturday mornin' mission to Tarrytown?

A photoshoot on the Hudson!!

-Rich.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/9/2013 5:35 PM

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Hi captains,

for years I had my heart set on installing my Rolex anchor on my Dauntless...But today I had a change of heart and decided that she should get a Danforth anchor just like she had for all those years..So today I splurged and bought her one...

She will have a working Danforth and it also comes with the mounting brackets so I don't have to fuss with making them. I bought the 55mm one.

I just called up and was told "It is PRETTY!!"

Here it is..

http://wetgoose.com/catalog/catpgc.html

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/9/2013 5:49 PM

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Hi Bill..Are you available for a Saturday mornin' mission to Tarrytown?

A photoshoot on the Hudson!!

-Rich.

Would you make me wear white ducks, a blazer, and a Hugh Hefner captains hat and answer to Tommy?

Bill

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/9/2013 5:52 PM

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Would you make me wear white ducks, a blazer, and a Hugh Hefner captains hat and answer to Tommy?

Bill

Nope but you could wear a blue Dauntless cap that says 'skipper' on the back...

-Rich.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/10/2013 11:14 AM

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Bill, even today sewage is dumped over the side, but with a twist. Many of the larger yachts have a unit called a macerator installed in the sewage system that "processes" the contents of the black and grey water tanks before pumping it over the side. With that being said, to use one in any fresh water environment or within 12 miles of the coast will cost you a hefty fine IF YOU GET CAUGHT

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/10/2013 12:44 PM

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It was really kind of funny at the time when they required small pleasure craft to seal heads since many cities were dumping sewage into the water and were the larger problem and continued to be for a long time. I remember NYC had to install dumping facilities for the Staten Island ferries which then recieved minimal treatment and then were dumped back into the harbor! At the time I had an 18' outboard cruiser with a head and no room for a holding tank and had to seal or remove it by law or face a large fine. Course they had those "hot seats" that burned the waste. OUCH!!

Bill

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/10/2013 4:17 PM

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Rich,

Can you put "false" bilge release ports on the side(s) of the hull and vent the bilge pump(s) out the transom, well above the water line, even when reversing?

Bob

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/10/2013 6:28 PM

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Hi bob & captains..

I did a little reading on the subject and found a solution. It doesn't matter which side of the hull the discharge outlet is on but it should be placed in relation to the bilge. In my case it would be located in a different place from her big sister because my bilge is placed forward in the engine room. So now it becomes, port or starboard? It wasn't clear or may not matter which side it should be placed.

Here is where it gets interesting...Discharge outlets are usually placed at the waterline and to prevent reverse siphoning riser loops are set in place to keep that from happening. The thing is that if the discharge outlet is underwater then reverse siphoning can still happen. The best solution is to place the discharge outlet a little higher than the waterline. The reason why they are not placed high is so that the water doesn't splash on the hull. The lower it is placed the neater the discharge will be,

So following this advice I will set up the outlet slightly higher than the waterline and will use a riser loop is a given being that the tube goes straight up from the bilge before descending downward to the discharge outlet..

Also, for a boat 65' long it is said that they should have about 4 pumps installed in different locations. I'm plotting 2 more pumps because the forecastle floor is sealed tight I don't need one there..

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/bilge_pumps.htm

-Rich.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/10/2013 6:49 PM

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This video shows the water characteristics of my boat.

At the 11 second mark of the video she is up on plane. I noticed that if I was to place the discharge outlet on her bootstripe in the front of the engine room the line is lifted out of the water up on plane. There is water blowing around there but it is likely deflection from the spray rail. Most of the water action will be just behind where I want to place it.

At the 36-38 second mark still shows the white bootstripe above water as she passed slowly. I will place it just above the waterline because I plan on adding more weight as the interior and other details go in. This will give me a little bit of safety in the event that the waterline has to be moved up later on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9RdtK7APV20#!

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/10/2013 8:33 PM

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Looky here captains,

I found a discharge outlet on the port side coming from the engine room. This seems to be at the water line. I'm getting a little loose with some of my top secret pics..

-Rich.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/10/2013 11:43 PM

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hi captains im one step nearer to the water i instaled last esc i cut holes behind the escs for cooling started cleaning up the wireing and started doing some more paint work on the cabins

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/11/2013 12:17 AM

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Hey Rich great pic! Check and see, I think those ports can be seen on both sides of the boat in its final days. The big square mounting flanges surrounding the exit holes look like creative afterthoughts in my opinion...

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/11/2013 6:35 AM

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It could also be a "band aid" fix for a miscut hole as it's possible the discharge was put there to dump engine cooling water after the engine change. My though being the starboard side was similarly "patched" with planking as seen in an earlier picture posted in this thread

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/11/2013 3:21 PM

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Deep,

I was looking over your pics of the wiring and noticed something was missing - fuses! Maybe you just haven't gotten around to installing them yet but if you want you can read the following for some really good and interesting information on the subject. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783582&highlight=fuse+wiring+diagram

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/11/2013 3:57 PM

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i just havent got there yet i plan on fuseing it all motors escs batterys

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/11/2013 4:43 PM

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Deep,

Oops, I jumped the gun so to speak.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/12/2013 12:30 AM

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hi captains here is somemore pix i painted the cabin roofs and started setting some trim in place not glued yet i was so happy with the paint then i looked at the forward cabin and it wrinkeld so now i wait then wet sand and paint agin

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/12/2013 3:41 AM

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DS - that mirror finish is amazing. You do great work and that's one amazing boat. PS don't sell this one

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/12/2013 7:35 PM

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hi caps i just ran across this tiny reel on e bay

for your dauntless

230909707440

Item number: its listed under dumas boats

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/12/2013 11:12 PM

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I'll leave it to Rich to make a full report but we did get to launch his Dauntless on the Hudson and did meet another dauntless and it's owner today.

Bill

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