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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/29/2012 2:51 PM

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Rich, haven't calculated the rpm but know it's to fast for realism. The cost was a bit of an extragance but I figure it is an eyecatcher for folks at the pond and most won't know the speed is unrealistic.

Can't wait for the next sea trials. I am going to my daughters today and was going to bring Dauntless to try her on their pond but there is still skim ice there.

Bill

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/29/2012 3:24 PM

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Hi Bill,

If you are interested in slowing down the RPM's try running it on a lower voltage. I ordered the Robbe geared radar motor at 50 RPM's on 12V and plan on running it on 9V to slw it down to about 35-39 RPM's. The gentleman at Harbor confirmed that this will work.

Either way the radar is an awesome feature to have and it truly looks awesome!!!

Have fun and good luck with today's sea trials. If possible try to get some video of it! I'm sure we would all love to see her cruising!

Enjoy!!

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/29/2012 6:29 PM

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Rich, it is running on 1 AA cell.

Won't do sea trials today since I don't plan on any more ice breaking expeditions.

Bill

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/29/2012 9:07 PM

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Hi Bill,

Yeah,we wouldn't want your Dauntless to hit an iceberg!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8CadIi00U4

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/30/2012 3:51 PM

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Hi Capn’s,

Yesterday a little more work was done to Dauntless. I began slicing the Tempur-Pedic material for the cushions in the boat. I have waited years to finally bring this into being! At first I started cutting the Tempur material to be 1/8” thick but then quickly realized that it is not thick enough for that type of material because of the way it compresses. The thickness was changed it was cut 1/4” thick and it is now perfect. It has enough ‘meat’ to make a really comfortable seat.

The Tempur-Pedic material is in the form of a block so what I did was put a ¼” tall wood strip against the side of the material and drew a line on the Tempur material using a thin sharpie marker. I went all around the material to form a cutting parameter. Afterwards I began carefully cutting the line with a razor. This was taking forever so I had to come up with another plan. So I went to the workshop and grabbed an Exacto cutting saw for the tool of choice.

Once I began cutting it was sort of like cutting through bread with a bread knife. It was very effective and in minutes I would produce a cushion slice.

I started with one of the seats just behind the helm. I put the seat foundation on the cushion, traced around it and cut it using scissors. Within minutes I had all four cushions cut out that make up the two seats.

Next was the leather. I was a little intimidated by it initially because of the quality of the material, but that that went away within minutes. After carefully studying the leather and putting it over the cushion several times I came up with a game plan. The plan is to cut the leather about an inch longer than the seat foundation on all sides so that the leather will wrap around the seat and be trimmed further during the process.

So I did just that. Once the piece of leather was cut it was wrapped around the cushion and seat foundation on two sides and then stretched the leather to see how much excess material was there. Afterwards I put down a thin layer of fabric glue on the top of the seat foundation and set the tempur material on top so that the cushion was adhered in place. Then I put the leather over the cushion and stretched it again to see how far it would go on the bottom of the chair. After a little trimming I used the fabric glue to glue the first sections of leather to the bottom of the chair. The fabric glue set in really fast so it only took a minute or two for the glue to hold the leather.

Now there were the other two sides that needed to be stretched over the side and glued to the bottom of the seat foundation. To do this right it look a little more examining because it’s important not to have any creases as the seat forms. So after stretching, trimming and back and forth, I got the two ends trimmed so that they will pull over and appear neat. They were finally glued in place.

The result was a really sweet seat cushion that I would love to sit on! (If I were a lot smaller) Also I estimate that it would cost hundreds to make each cushion in 1:1 scale. These seats will be fit for Royalty..

So far I made up one cushion and it will take two of these to make up one seat. Now that I did the hard part and came up with the assembly process it shouldn’t take as long to do the rest. I figured that I will be a pro by the time I’m done with these.

There is another take away from this. I used basswood to make the seat foundation. I found this to be very useful because keeps the shape of the cushion together and helps by adding a good platform for gluing material to especially if you plan on using glue instead of stitching.

I’m gearing up to make a lot of these cushions because each seatback across the back wall of Dauntless has the style that will require making several individual leather strips to make up that seating. It will also be the same for the seating in the aft lazarette and the bow cockpit. I plan on using more basswood platforms to get the shapes needed before wrapping them in the Tempur and leather material. I am estimating that there will be over 20 individual pieces of cushions assembled to make up the exterior of the boat.

I didn’t photograph the process this time around but I will take a picture of the first cushion soon. As I make up the other ones I will have additional pics.

-Rich.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/30/2012 6:15 PM

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Great update Rich!

I "think" I'm done with the basic structure rebuild of my damaged boat. I "think" because I keep finding parts and joints that were jolted loose from the fall.

I was having a hard time getting to the inside of the cabin windshield due to the deck pieces that extend way past the windshield. So I marked and cut these pieces shorter for better access to the area.

Next I gave everything one more sanding, adding a bit more curve to the roof line as Rich suggested.

Finally I dabbed 5-minute epoxy on all of the new windshield's wood joints inside the cabin, and in all the areas previously patched or repaired, for strength. Then I carefully painted on a couple layers of 20-minute epoxy to the entire area.

Now ready for final sanding and paint.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/30/2012 6:30 PM

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Dude you nailed it! That's a great looking windshield. I can't wait to see it painted up!

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/30/2012 10:45 PM

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good work both of you.

Rich you sure have the ability to stick with it and do things right. Those cushions will be a thing of beauty!

DF really nice job on the cabin front. With the improved look maybe you won't feel so bad about the accident.

As for me I just look for little things to keep me occupied. Today I added a ship to shore antenna on the port side of the bridge. This wasn't on the original Dauntless but the photos of her later showed more than one. I also added some detail to the radar base with the junction box with 2 wires that DF shows on the drawing. Need a bell now although that was a very odd place for a ships bell to be mounted.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 2:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: Sound Sailor good work both of you. Rich you sure have the ability to stick with it and do things right. Those cushions will be a thing of beauty! DF really nice job on the cabin front. With the improved look maybe you won't feel so bad about the accident. As for me I just look for little things to keep me occupied. Today I added a ship to shore antenna on the port side of the bridge. This wasn't on the original Dauntless but the photos of her later showed more than one. I also added some detail to the radar base with the junction box with 2 wires that DF shows on the drawing. Need a bell now although that was a very odd place for a ships bell to be mounted. Bill

Thanks Bill. Yep I tend to finish anything I start so I try to limit the amount of projects I take on. The Dauntless had three antennna's on it in addition to the radar.

There was one on the port and two on the starboard side. I was going to run the boat antenna through the mast but with the lighting and rotating radar i'm thinking that it's best to wire the receiver inside the chart desk in the salon and have it accessible in the engine room. Then use the starboard antenna for the receiver.

Also, I believe the bell was electric powered. It looks like the string ran to a metal box on the mast which likely contained a small motor contraption that pulled and rang the bell when the switch was thrown. (Likely at the helm?)

Here are a few pictures of the humble beginnings of the seats.

-Rich..

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 4:08 AM

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hott off the press..

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 4:10 AM

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 2:03 PM

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Here's a shot of the mast with the latest mod adding the junction box and wires.
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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 3:01 PM

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Bill,

I really like the work you do on your boats. Nice attention to detail and the craftsmanship is excellent.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 3:09 PM

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Bill,

I really like the work you do on your boats. Nice attention to detail and the craftsmanship is excellent.

Rich, You are in a league by yourself, I'm always amazed by what you are doing and the things you attempt to do. Just because I'm silent for the most part doesn't mean I'm not watching and appreciating your craftsmanship.

All of the Dauntless Captains make me strive for excellence in what little modeling time I have. Hopefully I can get my Dauntless whipped into shape one day, following your lead.

A humble hobbist,

Bob

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 3:33 PM

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ATTENTION RICH 404:

It has been a very long time since I been on here, or worked on my model.
My mind has been calculating much needed data, of any and all un-foreseen incidents that may
arise in the near future of my water craft performance.
This is why I bought a 22.5 foot Seville Searay boat and new EZ-Loader Trailer. Plus I just bought a 14.5 foot
aluminumn, and fiberglass fishing boat, with new trailer.
Now this summer, I can fish and work on the tons of data for my boat project, and come to a final conclusion.
both boats have Merc Cruiser engines. The bigger with a 4.0 staight 4 cyl out drive unit from Merc. And the other,
with outboard performance edition engine and drive prop.
The smaller I sent out to the marina, and had it re-sealed, and all new paint. I upgraded the wiring for the troller motor, lighting, emergency gas run off, bilge pump.
I know I over did it on safety issues, but I need to have peace of mind while on the water. Both boats total cost me $4,200, with a investment of another $2,700.
What I used to say, and always will. IT IS THE NAVY'S WAY ! I always had two back up plans, for once we was dropped off to do a mission.
We only had to rely upon the six of us, and several times we had to miss the LZ for one reason or another.
All the wood of my project is sealed water tight in marine spar, inside and out. The same will go for the paint as well, as well as the polished brass in clear epoxy.
Have a excellent day, for it is 54 degrees here, and no snow what so ever in Detroit, Mich.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 4:57 PM

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Thanks for that, Bob. Have you done any work on your Dauntless lately?

Here is the ship to shore antenna I cobbled together yesterday. The mounts are as I remember from my boat, back in the day, when the mast was not a fold down .(back in the days before VHS service and 2182 was the distress freq) I used a piece of brass to simulate the coax connection.
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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 6:44 PM

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Very nice work Bill, I'm impressed! Here's a useful image of the Dauntless radar tower for reference.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 7:45 PM

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Wow, that thing looks hammered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I take it that shot was taken in the "Post Rockerfeller" era
What I see is the dish speed can be controlled by a gear set inside the motor housing and the motor mounted inside the cabin with a drive shaft running up to the motor housing inside the forward leg of the mast. The only real change needed would be a slight tweek to the rear of the housing to make the room needed.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 8:26 PM

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Thanks DF. I 've got it "close enough for government work" as they say. I think that box halfway up the mast may be the device to remotely sound the bell.

Bill

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 8:35 PM

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Hi Dauntlessfan,

Thanks for posting this photo of the radar!

Hi Bill,

You are the man!!! The radar is looking awesome!!! The craftsmanship of your work definitely shows and thanks for documenting your work for us to see!

Perhaps this photo will help you put some finishing touches on your radar. It shows a cross section on the top of the mast where a wire on each side goes up and supports the antenna behind the rotating radar.

If you look about halfway up the mast here was the small box on the mast painted silver that had the rope attachment for the bell. The rope is wrapped around a support but it looks like it was torn away from the bell that has some of the rope evident.

Not seen in this picture but the antenna behind the radar also had a smaller looking antenna coming off the back that was actually an anemometer. In some pictures the anemometer was not seen but the base was always there..

The ship to shore antenna also looks sweet! It also looks like the one on Dauntless that I may use for the receiver wire. Is this what you are using for your wire too? The mounts are also exactly as they appear on the full sized Dauntless..Well done!

Here is a picture that shows both the anemometer and the ship to shore antenna.

Would you happen to know which antenna would have been used for the radio phone?

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the compliments. I also have very little time for the building aspect of this hobby so I can definitely relate to you there. This is a very challenging hobby if you don’t have the time for it. I steal time from other things each week just to keep on this boat. I have concluded that this will be my last major boat building project until I retire. At some point I’m going to thin the herd and sell off the rest of my un-built fleet. I also have a large rare ship in need of a restoration that I may eventually sell because I don’t have the time and energy that it requires. No worries though, I won’t stop until Dauntless is built exactly as planned. Thank goodness I chose to build a boat that I am so passionate about.

Hi Hydro-Junkie,

Yep the radar and the rest of the yacht was dogged here. The picture was taken after a major fire ripped though the yacht. This was post-Rockefeller era. It was here when the stop-watch began ticking against her.

Hi Butch,

Congrats on your large "RTR' boats! I'm sure they are lots of fun to play with! I had a feeling that your model was going to be the gateway to bigger toys!

-Rich.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 8:55 PM

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All of the Dauntless Captains make me strive for excellence in what little modeling time I have. Hopefully I can get my Dauntless whipped into shape one day, following your lead.

Hi Bob, When the day comes for you to tackle your Dauntless it will be spectacular! The path is still being blazed but the day will come when you and others can use the info here as a template to finish your own projects. My hope for the future is that anyone who has the will, will have the chance to build an accurate or close to accurate Dauntless..

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 9:02 PM

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Thanks DF. I 've got it "close enough for government work" as they say. I think that box halfway up the mast may be the device to remotely sound the bell.

Bill

Hi Bill, This is wayy better than GuBment work! Yes, I think the device halfway up the mast is indeed the thing used ot sound the bell. Note how the rope is torn on the end where it comes from the box side and when you look at the bell you can see the other half where the rope was torn away. We can see that the rope once went from the box on the mast to the bell.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 1/31/2012 11:16 PM

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Hi Rich, I really don't know much about other antennas. When I was boating the Ship to Shore (also sometimes referred to as radio-telephone) operated at 2 mhz and used a very long antenna. The antenna you see is a long wire coiled around a fiberglass tube. On a boat like Dauntless the physical antenna woud be pretty high but on smaller boats the length would necessarily be less. Some interesting (I hope) things about he service were that the transcievers were crystal controlled and could be in various watt outputs and that created havoc on coastal waters and led to the demise of the system. You installed crystals for 2182 (International distress frequency), a couple of ship to ship frequencies and possibly some port freqs. Initially the sets were big, heavy tube sets requiring a heavy power supply. Towards the late stages transistorized sets became available allowing smaller boats to have one. I even built a Heathkit one. These sets would be able to call a good distance (about a mile per watt). That created the problem. Realistically 25 watts were enough for coastal boaters. If you needed help, lets say on LI Sound, you didn't need someone 100 miles away. Large pleasure boats seemed to always buy the biggest wattage because they could afford them. By law you monitored and made initial contact with others on 2182 then switched to a ship to ship channel for your conversation. Distress calls were made by saying "Mayday" three times and other urgent calls by saying "Security" three times. The guys with the big rigs calling their buddies would overpower the smaller boats that would be trying to get a distress call out and that presented many problems.
My first set was 25 watts but when I was patrolling under Coast Guard orders I had trouble getting through the clutter to the station at Eatons Neck 6 miles away and I had to get a 65 watt set. This system was replaced by VHF sets which had a range of only about 6 miles or so. Then small boaters started using CB but that was not monitored for distress calls by the CG.

Well I really rambled but my memory about this got jogged. I apologize but I hope it was either entertaining ot informative.

Bill

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 2/1/2012 12:16 AM

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Hey Bill, I think you should show us more pictures of your model Dauntless! From the parts I've seen so far it's one heckuva nice boat.

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RE: the unofficial home of the dumas dauntless - 2/1/2012 1:18 AM

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Hi Bill,

I think your post was both interesting and informative. Things such as the radio telephone are a thing of the past much like the Dauntless. A story such as the one you told may not sound interesting to you because you lived it but I find it interesting because it helps me understand the life and times of Dauntless (and her components). I have a picture of Dauntless's(STS) radio telephone and i'm going to model it. One day I (or even others here) may have to explain what the phone on the chart desk is and thanks to you we can better explain it.

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