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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 1/15/2008 10:12:07 PM   
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Bill,

I've got one 9411 on each aileron and elevator half, and a 5945 on the rudder. I need 3D throws however, so that might be overkill for normal use.

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 1/16/2008 1:43:35 AM   
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Joe,

Thanks for the servo info.....

What engine do you have in the Pitts?

Do you have smoke installed, and if so what system?

Any pics?

Bill

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 1/16/2008 5:23:55 AM   
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It's a DA 50 with Jtec muffler. Smoke isn't in it yet but planning a Skywriter. No pics past what I've posted here. I'm still working on trim.

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 1/16/2008 12:22:28 PM   
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Joe,

I've got a "spare" BME 105 sitting around that would definitely fit in the large cowl of the Pitts........other than having to "throttle back" the engine to prevent tearing the wings off what do you think???


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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 1/16/2008 3:01:05 PM   
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A BME 105? Wow, I'd love to see that! Isn't that more than a pound heavier than a DA 50?

Since I've never actually seen one fly yet in person, and I don't even know how mine balances with the DA 50 on it, I can only speculate, but I imagine you'd need tailweight (1/3 lb?) even if you moved the battery into the tail. Did you see the model airplane news article with the DA50?

http://www.rcguys.com/RC%20Guys%20Pitts%20-%20Click%20Trip%20-%20Model%20Airplane%20News.htm

Mine should be around 15 lbs with the DA 50. I've got a lot of aftermarket parts and hardware to get that weight (carbon tailwheel, LG, light servos, Lipos all around). I figure that's a good 3D weight for a DA 50. I've also got made new tail parts (larger surfaces, counterbalanced rudder, and extended ailerons into prop blast) to allow 3D control. Not sure if 3D is your goal too, but it added several weeks of build time for me.

The ARC is a very light plane, and I know you'd need to reinforce the front end and probably the LG mount area for a bigger motor. It may end up ruining the reputation of this plane as a "biplane floater", but who knows for sure. I would think your combo would still be lighter than the 1/3 scale GP Pitts that everyone likes and is ~18 lbs.

If you've already got the motor and hardware and don't mind kit bashing, I'd say go for it. Either the ARF or ARC is a good value, and if you feel comfortable with modifying bigger birds of this size, and know how to handle extra power, it should be a really fun ride. But, as you must know, be prepared to land her more hot as you would expect for heavier loaded birds.

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 1/16/2008 3:15:52 PM   
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Joe,

I was originally looking at getting the 48 cc twin that was used (and is sold) by the folks at RCGuys but I just can't justify purchasing an engine with "limited" useability beyond this plane.

I checked out my BME 115 and it definitely fits into the cowl AND more importantly it actually weighs just slightly more (2 oz) than the 48cc twin!

Since then I've decided on another project for 115, but I do have the 105 and will be checking the weight difference versus the 48 cc twin to make sure I'm not adding a boat anchor.

I'll definitely be bracing the engine box/firewall more sturdily than recommended and had planned on going with either a Hitec 5955 or JR 8711 for the rudder mounted "in the back" versus the pull-pull setup they recommend.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks again for your help,

Bill

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 1/18/2008 4:11:57 AM   
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What are people actually using for engines in these planes? I am leaning toward the TOC53 but also have a Quadra 40cc on the shelf paid for plus one of the old A&M Sachs 50cc engines from before they had their crank problems. Hate to over power it too much. I haven't seen any actual flight reports that discuss the various power options.

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 3/17/2008 5:15:56 PM   
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Ahhhh success,flew the bipe yesterday and it works,,,,,.Took some time to get the twin set up,new experience for me but it is well suited combo for this plane,I think after a few gallons of fuel run through this engine it will be the performer that most people claim.the colour looks good in the air,had some positive comments from spectators about how nice it showed flying,all in all a good time.

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 3/23/2008 5:33:46 PM   
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check the lower wing dowels, both of mine broke I think the dowel material is faulty,replaced the dowels with 3/8th size

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 3/23/2008 7:01:04 PM   
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Hey Tater1,

When you say the dowels "broke" exactly what happened.......any pics?

I got my 48cc twin that RCGuys recommend for this plane so I'll be working on finishing up the covering and getting 'er together for early spring flying.

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 3/23/2008 8:20:06 PM   
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Bill, thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on the Pitts . My plane is the ARF version . The dowels on mine looked a little "off" as well, so I cut into the wing on the bottom where it would not show -it is covered with the belly pan- and found that the dowels did not go into the holes that were cut for them in the spar. All that was holding them in the wing was the balsa leading edge, so thats just a crash waiting to happen. I slid then into the holes and then reinforced them with ply around the dowels at the the spar so they could not move. I didn't bother filling in the cutouts I made because the belly pan hid them.
My plane has a DL50 with a Bisson wraparound Pitts muffler and weighs 15 lbs.
























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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 3/24/2008 7:30:24 PM   
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hello 727....

Glad to have anyone with knowledge throw their 2 cents in...........the more information we share the less likely we are to lose our planes due to "unforeseen" circumstances setup by those who are building our planes but not understanding why things have to be done in a certain way.

I'll definitely be checking out the dowel situation, as I'd rather have a covering patch than a pile of sticks.


Thanks,

Bill

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 3/24/2008 7:36:18 PM   
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Bill, you won't even have a patch because the belly pan covers it. Let us know if you find anything similar. I should have taken pictures but didn't think about it at the time. Mine will never come out now- hope yours don't either.

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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 3/24/2008 7:41:44 PM   
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Hey 727...

Did you put the 3 deg right and down thrust in via placement of the firewall or did you get the angles by "shimming" with washers or plates behind the engine mounts?


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RE: Andy Sheber's Pitts ARF by RC Guys - 3/24/2008 7:51:54 PM   
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It was built into the firewall so that the mounting spacers and engine sit "flat" to the firewall. That way there is no twist to the engine from unequal length mounts. These pictures show this. After I installed the firewall with 3 degrees down and right, the front of the engine box was cut flush and I added some light aluminium angle to add strength along with triangle stock inside. These pictures do not show the 11/2 " hole I cut for air intake of the carb.







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