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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 4/9/2007 12:47:06 PM   
edge_540


 

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Status: offline 		hello,

are there some flying pics??? ore some video's of this plane??? greeetz

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 7/9/2007 6:44:59 AM   
matt13


 

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Status: offline 		Still been slack and have not finished this model, how are the ones in this post holding together now it's a few more months down the track?

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 7/9/2007 8:17:05 AM   
ChrisK7



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Status: offline 		I got mine all put together with a YS .63 fourstroker. I had to put the 4-cell sub-C pack under the engine box for it to balance but I believe it is ready to fly.
Maybe tomorrow if the wind ever dies down around here.

The plane went together well. I'm not to nuts about the covering or the paint. Seem to chip easily and the covering is way to heavy.
I am anxious to fly it. If I like it I may recover it sometime in the future.
I did think that the overall quality of the kit is good.

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 8/4/2007 2:18:21 PM   
matt13


 

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Status: offline 		"MAN I'M SLACK!" OK, wife is away for the week, weather too wet and windy to fly, I now have no excuse! I picked up an in cowl muffler today to keep the engine/ cowl that bit neater. I pulled the gear out of the Tuccano and fitted the servo's and hooked up the closed loop for the rudder and the push rod is in for the elevators. I also had to re-kit the dubro fuel valve which I will fit tomorrow. I'm on a misson to have it ready to fly this week.

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 9/24/2007 5:26:32 AM   
matt13


 

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Status: offline 		Well I have finally found the time to get my Giles into the air, and it has now done four flights. The OS 50SX had not even been started when I went out to the field this morning, and after the first start with the starter, it was able to be started with just the back flip on the spinner. It is still being run rich at the moment but seems to be a good match for the model, no dead sticks and very low idle with good throttle response.
I found that the C of G was further back than what the book suggested but I just flew it were it was, it only needs a touch of down when inverted so it must be close to the right spot. In long verticals it will yaw off to the left so it could use a tad more right thrust, and it tends to push towards the belly in knife edge flight. Spins etc are fine on normal rates, mybe just a bit tame, on full rates it will need a lot of EXPO as it becomes a bit touchy but the spins become flater and more fun.

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 9/29/2007 3:19:27 PM   
kam1973


 

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Status: offline 		Hey everyone,

This a really good thread on the Giles. I purchased the version 1 model and replaced the covering with Profilm, after I found that i was getting a few tears while assembling. My maiden flight is about 2 weeks away (weather permitting) and I'm really looking forward to it. The only thing of concern, is the blasted C of G setting. I have a Satio 65 mounted with a 2.5 inch aluminium spinner, and am following the suggested CG settings, but find it too nose heavy.

To avoid adding lead I'm going to move the flight battery back until it's level, then see if I can mount it in the fuselage at that point. Does any one have any other tips or experiences C of G for this model???

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 10/1/2007 11:51:11 AM   
mattmc


 

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Status: offline 		I picked up mine for $80 AUD. It had cracks in three of the four wing panels (Top left, bottom left & bottom right). I covered those with some clear cover to maintain the snazzy colour scheme.



giles pics

Some photos of my slow building progress
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fangin/sets/72157602218592116/

Photos of covering split
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fangin/630103960/in/set-72157602218592116/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fangin/630105114/in/set-72157602218592116/



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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 10/1/2007 10:13:55 PM   
matt13


 

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Status: offline 		I found that the C of G could be a bit further back than what the instructions suggested, so I would add the lead if you need to. Don't forget to add a pilot. Matt

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 10/2/2007 11:45:33 PM   
kam1973


 

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Status: offline 		That's a top looking model!

Thanks for your C of G tip too. I was going to move it back from 95mm to 90mm, but I think I'll leave it where it is. I'll try to organise some photo's too.

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 3/4/2008 4:26:26 AM   
paul49


 

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Status: offline 		Hi All,
I posted this question last night but it seems to have disappeared during the recent site maintenance.

I started building a CMPro Giles 202 50 Version 2 a couple of weeks ago. The build has been straightforward so far. I carefully removed the covering from the opening for the horizontal stabiliser and after trial-fitting the stab, I was a bit concerned that it's quite a loose fit. The stab. in my previous model (a Thunder Tiger nitro trainer) fitted quite snug in the opening.
I've only built two planes before this but it doesn't seem reasonable to expect just the epoxy to fill up the gaps. Perhaps I'm missing something obvious as the assembly instructions leave a bit to be desired.

Any advice?

Thanks,
Paul.

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 3/4/2008 3:05:26 PM   
opjose



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Status: offline 		Epoxy should fill the gap.

Apply epoxy to both surfaces and finalize the position of the horizontal stab.

Let this dry.

If there are gaps visible after you are done you can always inject or force more epoxy into the area.

When this is needed I will apply a thick bead of epoxy along the joints, push as much in with a brush as possible, apply more then wipe the excess away with a paper towel soaked in alcohol. While the epoxy has not set, alcohol will eliminate all of the excess w/o problems.

If there is a relatively huge area open, I've resorted to balsa wedges, microballoon filler, or even taking balsa sawdust and mixing it in with epoxy to make a filler.

I remember a gap on the horizontal stab, but if I recall correctly the epoxy filled it in just fine.




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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 3/5/2008 10:47:26 PM   
paul49


 

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Status: offline 		Hi opjose,

The gap around the stab isn't very big - just enough to let it move around a bit. Your suggestions sound like they'll do the trick.
Thanks for the excellent advice.

Paul.

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 3/6/2008 8:47:34 AM   
matt13


 

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Status: offline 		I used a thin epoxy mixed with micro-balloons which worked nicely. I used plastic electrical tape on the fueslarge sides covering the tailplane cutout, then with a sharp knife, cut out the hole. Then after measuring the fit to make sure that the tailplane was square, I marked the position with pins and with drew the tailplane again. After using more of the tape, this time on the tailplane, I glued it in with the epoxy which was a slow setting type. I then wiped the joint with a finger to make a fillet. When the epoxy was starting to go off, I carefully removed the tape which left a nice looking joint.

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RE: CMPro Giles 202 - 50 - 3/6/2008 5:10:01 PM   
opjose



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Status: offline 		Matt13:

How did you find landings with your plane?

Mine seems to keep going forever and not want to land.