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RE: Prop Bitten - 9/22/2006 12:33:32 PM   
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To 8178:

Great idea.. now all I have to do is follow up on that.

I was playing with the same aircraft last evening, fininshing touches getting ready for an RC Air Show on Sat. I was... like... above myself, watching that I didn't get in the way of anything rotating while I was working on the servo's. I even went to the extreme of taping the throttle stick on the TX fully closed! ha.. worked, though.

I might make that suggestion at the next meeting (removing the prop as you suggested). Great idea.

DS.

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RE: Prop Bitten - 9/24/2006 8:20:30 AM   
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I hope that you heal quickly. God bless.....

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RE: Prop Bitten - 9/24/2006 8:27:03 AM   
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You know, I was reading this post back on the 18th thinking wow that sucks. I could not believe the damage a prop can do. Well I sit here now typing gimpy with 6 stitches in my finger. Stupid happens. I was fortunate not to catch any tendens or nervs. I hope you recover quickly.. I know I will, I have to fly next weekend.

EDIT: I was bitten by an APC 6x3 being spun by a Norvel .061 at abot 22k RPM

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RE: Prop Bitten - 9/25/2006 2:43:49 PM   
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I got to see this beauty of a cut. I would like to give you all a little insight to what a norvell engine can do to your finger at 22000 rpm. The gash on my buddies finger was probably 2 inches long and 1/4-3/8 of an inch wide. Now that seems a little odd but from the looks of it the propeller struck him not once or twice but 4-5 times or more. I am counting my graces that I have not experienced this type of injury. For all of those of you that think your injury may not be that bad take off that paper towel and rubber band holding it in place and get a friends opinion. If there is no one else around to help you come back to reality (dumb, dumb, dumb) go to the doctor and have him check it out. If at all possible fly with a buddy so you have somebody to drive you to the emergency room.

P.S. The doc is supposed to be sending him pics


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RE: Prop Bitten - 9/26/2006 4:58:00 PM   
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Thanks for all the replies. Surgery went okay, my hand will be in a cast for the next 4 weeks while the tendons and veins heal. I will say, that as an old Airborne Ranger who has endured his share of painful moments, this was pain (post-surgery), like I've never experienced. The kind that makes you literally physically ill. I'd never wish this on anyone. I'm looking forward to recovery and getting back in the air. Tough to look at your planes and know it'll be a while before you can mess with them. Thanks again, remember, always think safety!

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RE: Prop Bitten - 9/27/2006 5:09:50 PM   
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I am glad to see you will come out of this ok. You should learn to fly one handed

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RE: Prop Bitten - 9/27/2006 7:44:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gilbertfh
I am glad to see you will come out of this ok. You should learn to fly one handed


Hahahaha!!!! Believe me, the thought has crossed my mind, the weather here has been perfect.

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RE: Prop Bitten - 9/27/2006 11:15:01 PM   
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Glad to hear your doing better
and by the way
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RE: Prop Bitten - 11/6/2006 11:23:31 PM   
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Been a while since able to post, just wanted to bring anyone interested up-to-date. Its now been almost 2 months since the prop strike and surgery. At this time I've almost completed my first series of therapy. Having never been 'seriously' injured in my 47 years, this was a real eye-opener. So, if any of you ever catch a prop across the back of your hand and sever a few veins and tendons, (and I hope that none of you EVER have to experience this), here's what you can expect;

1. When the cast and braces finally come off between weeks 4-6, parts of your hand and all fingers will be swelled like a toad. The rest of your hand will look like it belongs on an 80 yr. old. Withered and 'depressed' or sunken. Chances are you'll not be able to move any fingers beyond small fractions of an inch. You'll notice that your the nails haven't grown on those fingers. After a few days of getting some air, you'll start to shed skin from the finger tips to the end of where the cast stopped. This will continue for a couple of weeks. You'll be amazed at the amount of shedding. Fingers will typically be somewhat numb, and the palm of the hand will seem to have no tactile feeling or sensation. Very much like your arm going to 'sleep'.

2. You'll make damned sure you have your brace on before going to bed, because nerves will start 'firing' as they heal while you rest. Ever go to nod off and just before you do, you have a feeling of falling and have to 'catch' yourself? You'll try to do it with that hand, or sometime during the night you'll unknowingly try to grab for something with it. Your hand isn't ready to grab, you will instantly return to an awakened state because it'll hurt like hell. Did the pain cause the dream or the dream cause the pain? Your 'funny' bone will be VERY sensitive, and you will learn to be protective of it.

3. The muscles in your arm/fore arm and hand will have atropied a surprising degree. Your injured arm will be noticeably thinner than your good arm. By now you'll have learned how to wash yourself, dress yourself (forget buttons and ties, just not going to happen yet. Think track suit style pants and polo pullovers.), how to open jars and a variety of other tasks with the good hand. You'll not be able to clip the fingernails on the good hand.

4. Therapy will start with measurements of how much you can move the fingers and wrist. At this time you'll get some movement out of the first knuckle below the finger tips from the least injured fingers. The others will be barely measurable. You may get a tiny bit from the wrist, and the thumb's going nowhere. Pain is not a huge component, but there will be a lot of discomfort due to swelling, muscle and tendon tightness. Like swimmers crap in the hand, only the fingers aren't moving in a cramped fashion. After 3 weeks of therapy you'll start to see a lot more movement in the fingers, but the main knuckles in the hand aren't ready to 'break over' yet. You'll constantly be moving fingers because 10 minutes after stopping they feel like they're connected with very tight rubber bands. Flex the fingers 'up' and your knuckles will feel like they have weights soldered to them pushing back under the skin. A very unnerving feeling. Only about now will swelling start to subside, though your hand will feel like circulation is being cut off at the wrist, a very balloon like feeling, also a bit unnerving as no position makes it feel better. Must keep moving the fingers. By this time you'll also start getting some movement out of the thumb and wrist. Typically you can get almost 90 degrees bend at the wrist, (think arm wrestling position), but for now, you'll only be seeing about 40 degrees worth on a good day. Keep flexing the wrist and moving fingers. Feeling is almost back in the palm. You may get enough movement to try and pick up something with the 2 best fingers... forget it, they won't have the strength, they'll be shaking so bad you'll think you have parkinsons.

At this point I'm no where near being able to fly or build, but every day gets me one step closer. The results are measurable. Next week I get a brace with tie downs, which will bend the fingers down and flex the wrist to start stretching and breaking over the main knuckles. At the current rate, I should be able to make a rudimentary fist come january. Then it'll be time to start building strength back into them. I would have NEVER dreamed that, in the big scope of things, such a small injury would take so long to recover from. I overshot the LZ a mile on that one. Its akin to starting over with a new hand, the muscles and tendons have to start over, building 'memory' into them so they stay stretched, everything touched feels weird and 'new'. Some days are depressing, thats just a fact. Some daily tasks seem impossible and you'll swear you're not making any progress. Just keep moving those fingers and flexing the wrist, you will see progress! And last, for anyone that ever encounters this, however it may happen, your new best friend will be your therapist!! Use one that specializes in hand injuries as well! They are the key to a successful recovery, no matter how independent you are! Hopefully, next time I update this, I'll be able to say I'm back flying, or danged close to it.

HM

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RE: Prop Bitten - 11/7/2006 12:09:13 AM   
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That is incredible and sobering. Thanks for sharing your experience. It's extremely valuable information for everybody and I hope you get fully recovered and can get back to building and flying. Looking forward to that positive progress update. Keep up the good work.

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RE: Prop Bitten - 11/7/2006 1:27:44 AM   
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Radical,
You forgot to tell just how enjoyable Physical Therapy is. Three times a week for 10 months for me. Ah yes the modern day torture chamber. There were two good things that came out of that for me: 1) At the end of each session I literally had a buzz just from the pain ending and 2) The good news, finally, is hang in there my man because you will survive this my friend. I wish you a full recovery and you will have it! Stay strong and be patient your gonna be back to 100% before you know it!

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RE: Prop Bitten - 11/7/2006 1:45:24 AM   
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Hope you have a speedy recovery.

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RE: Prop Bitten - 11/7/2006 2:59:50 AM   
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lets see the hand

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RE: Prop Bitten - 11/9/2006 8:58:21 PM   
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Well here ya go..nothing real ugly.. scarring looking better, hand still has about 10% swelling.. if I can just get those danged knuckles below the fingers to start working.. On the second picture, the red indicates the original cuts. Yellow is area of hand which was removed, (due to flesh no longer being viable), then skin pulled from opposing sides to make one line. The green is how much further down they had to cut to retrieve the tendon. Of all the places to get prop whacked...



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RE: Prop Bitten - 11/9/2006 9:13:10 PM   
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I had a little mishap, not as bad as yours happen to me when i tried to start a 61 2stroke my hand. I turned the prop over and it backfired before i pull my hand away, sliced 2 figers open. Didnt get any stiches but it still hurt pretty badneedless to say.

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RE: Prop Bitten - 12/4/2006 7:30:39 PM   
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