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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/6/2006 4:43 PM

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Some people need to lighten up. Its only a hobby. And by comparrison, a lot cheaper than golf, gambling or boating. I am in the process of building a CMP Mosquito. It was fabulous right out of the box. These planes are not for beginners. Just buy a set of metric ball drivers and the metric problem goes away. Even the best ARF I have built required a little improvisation. Seems like some of the whiners need to go back to the simple high wing arfs and the comfort they get knowing they are simple to build, require little experience and they fly. Glenn

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/8/2006 2:43 PM

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Rigth on solarmusic,
I have seen a CMP AT6-Texan one clubmember built and I was floored how nicely it was made and flew. Another guy in our club built the 71" Zero and enhanced the scale looks of it. This war bird is truely a show stopper- the way it looks and flies. It seems there are only a handfull people who complain about CMP, but perhaps they will complain about everything as well. I bought a H9 P-47 -150 and was very disapointed with the overall appearance of the plane. The covering keeps on wrinkling, no mater how many times I go over it with the iron. The ailerons and flaps didn't line up and left ugly gaps between them. Had to add spacers and recover the surfaces. The Chinese made retacts are, simply speaking, crap. But she flies absolutely suberban is one of the best flying planes I own. The only company I had never to complain about aything is Great Planes. All my GP airplanes are yop notch quality and their prices are fair.

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/9/2006 2:04 PM

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This topic came up at our club this weekend. Think about this: Most kits are just a box of wood with no glue, no covering, no retracts of any kind, no wheels, spinner or much else, and you could complain about the plans and instructions. These Chinese kits get you a lot more than that. They're almost built for anywhere between 10 - 20% more than the kit with nothing. The flyability is something else. If you know what you're doing, you know where to put the CG without instructions, (25% of cord is always safe) and you can fly something other than a trainer, there is no problem.

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/11/2006 1:58 PM

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Those darn NitroPlane kits,
while flying my CMP Corsair, all the glue joints came apart. I can't understand it. Someone had said not to do snap rolls with a Corsair simply because they weren't designed to do that, opps, that was me. Well, the CMP won't do them either. Let me rephrase that, they do fabulous snap rolls but only one problem, they won't come out of them and then the glue joints come loose when it goes into the ground. Wasn't my fault, they should have had more glue in this plane. I'll have to call them and tell them to put more glue on those joints.

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PS: I wont hesitate to buy another one

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/16/2006 12:49 AM

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I am severly disgusted with nitoplanes, I have built multiple world models with no problems. So I purchased ultimate 40 from them that they said was a world models arf, I get it and it is missing parts and the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen. I called them and just like everyone else I get no customer service and they wont call me or respond to my emails. I have decided to dispute the charge to my card and cause them some trouble. I will never buy a Nitromodels again, I should have checked the board first.

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/16/2006 2:54 PM

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If you check,
this is in response to my last thread, nobody elses.
I said I buy another one but one big problem, how do you? I put a bid to NitroPlanes almost a week ago and it is still pending. I wrote them asking why they don't respond, heard nothing. I wrote CMP telling them the same, heard nothing so far as today.
Well things change and I'm very close to changing my mind on NitroPlanes and agreeing with bryanward. Either someone there isn't doing their job or they simply don't care. Maybe they figure you'll bid low and get disgusted waiting and just buy at their regular price. I had bought from them before and got just what I wanted with no problems. This time I hear nothing. I even wrote them asking why. If they want to reject my bid, ok by me. I just want to know one way or the other.
If I hear nothing by the end of the day, I'm going to cancel my bid and just build a Top Flite Corsair I already have here and the heck with NitroPlanes.
I just want to make it clear, I've owned and flown the CMP 50 Corsair and it is a nice plane, with a few changes made. It is NitroPlanes that seems to be just sitting on their butts.
Larry

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/16/2006 3:59 PM

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If you check,
this is in response to my last thread, nobody elses.
I said I buy another one but one big problem, how do you? I put a bid to NitroPlanes almost a week ago and it is still pending. I wrote them asking why they don't respond, heard nothing. I wrote CMP telling them the same, heard nothing so far as today.
Well things change and I'm very close to changing my mind on NitroPlanes and agreeing with bryanward. Either someone there isn't doing their job or they simply don't care. Maybe they figure you'll bid low and get disgusted waiting and just buy at their regular price. I had bought from them before and got just what I wanted with no problems. This time I hear nothing. I even wrote them asking why. If they want to reject my bid, ok by me. I just want to know one way or the other.
If I hear nothing by the end of the day, I'm going to cancel my bid and just build a Top Flite Corsair I already have here and the heck with NitroPlanes.
I just want to make it clear, I've owned and flown the CMP 50 Corsair and it is a nice plane, with a few changes made. It is NitroPlanes that seems to be just sitting on their butts.
Larry

AK-Models sell many of the same planes and have excellent service. I got a bad kit 6 months ago, but they responded right away and offered to credit my PayPal account for the missing mechanical retracts or for me to wait until they were in stock and send them.

Check out: http://www.ak-models.com/welcome.htm

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/16/2006 4:23 PM

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Great and thank you,
Just what I wanted to know. After waiting so long for a response from NitroPlanes, I just bought another kit, yes kit nor arf. lol I'll still give them till tonight to respond and if they don't I plan on building my Top Flite Corsair kit, which I already have, instead of looking elsewhere for a CMP Corsair. I tied enough money already this morning up on this other plane but it was to good of a deal to pass up but if NitroPlanes would have gotten back to me sooner, they would have had the sale and I'll still buy from them, but only until tonight. I try to do what I say even if at times it might go against me.
Again, thanks, at lease I have a place to look if in the future I want to buy another CMP plane.
Larry

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/16/2006 5:56 PM

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For what its worth,
I bought a NitroPlanes Tiger Moth and have been flying it this year. It has a Saito 150 and all Futaba radio gear. The hardware was not the best but I used most of it. I have no complaints.
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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/16/2006 7:01 PM

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For what its worth,
I bought a NitroPlanes Tiger Moth and have been flying it this year. It has a Saito 150 and all Futaba radio gear. The hardware was not the best but I used most of it. I have no complaints.
Thanks

I think there's a distinction between the kits sold by NitroPlanes and the service they provide. Many seem to be satisfied with the quality of the kits give what they pay for them, the problem seem to occure when there's a problem with the kit such as missing parts or damaged parts etc. There doesn't seem to be any response from NitroPlanes regarding these matters, i.e, poor customer service when you really need it.

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/16/2006 11:06 PM

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Bingo,
You're exactly right with the service from NitroPlanes. I just cancelled the bid I put into NitroPlanes on RCUniverse only because of no response which I feel, was a reasonable amount of time. Tychoc gave me a good outlet for when I'm again in the market for a CMP plane and I could care less what the difference in price might be. Heck, I was willing to pay a few bucks more from NitroPlanes if only they would have responded to my bid or/and e mails. If a plane cost me $10 or $20 extra and I get good service, the extra money spent is worth it.

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/17/2006 12:18 AM

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Hey, I also lucked out on their P-51, (the .60 size blue LOU IV). Today I maidened it. I built it using all the parts that came with the arf, and it flew like a trainer, but then again I flew in 17 mph winds

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/17/2006 3:29 PM

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Finally heard from NitroPlanes and deal went through. I was about to take my plans from my Top Flite kit to Staples to have them duplicated, which I always do with any kit I build. I had the instructions out and checked and was ready to start building this morning because I knew I woudn't hear from NitroPlane but I did. I just don't understand why they took so long to respone. Maybe making a little noise to RCU might have helped. lol
Larry

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/17/2006 3:45 PM

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Larry S,

Besides the topic, but how much does it cost to duplicate a typical set of plans?

After 3 kits and 3 ruined plans, I can see the wisdome in this....

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/17/2006 4:08 PM

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Hi tychoc,
It depends on the number sheets you have to copy but it's cheap, few bucks at Staples. The only problem that comes in is they can only copy 3ft wide sheets so you may have to fold the sheets over and make seperate copies and then later tape them together, but it's no big deal. I work off the copies and leave the orginials for future use. By the way, they can only make 3 ft wide copies but they can be of any length. It's been a while since I had copies made, I say you're looking at $20 or so for a set. Well worth the price.
Larry

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/18/2006 3:37 PM

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Question for all you,
Is there any interest out there on a build up of the CMP 50 Corsair? Mine has been shipped and hopefully will get here by the end of the week. This will be my second one so I know what to look for in building the second and I plan on adding retracts to the new one. If there is an interest I'll be happy to help. Have parts on order now.
Larry

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/18/2006 5:25 PM

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Of course there is Larry

I've already build one and would still be interested in a build thread!

Got for it!

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/18/2006 10:06 PM

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OK,
sounds good to me. Not sure if I should start a new thread or just post on here. Fedex saids delivery this coming Monday so I have a few days. So,,,,new thread or on here?
Larry

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/19/2006 12:25 AM

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Larry,

I would be interested in your findings. My Corsair came in 3 weeks ago. I am now waiting on the Pitts muffler for my Rossi 60 and the Retracts from World Models. I had a pair of retracts already from an older Great Plains Cosair, but found that they mounted differently. The old retracts mounted deep in the wing. Also, I think the CMP has entirely too long of a strut. This model is very similar in dimentions to the old .40 size GP I had. However, in that case the LG was about 1.5 inches shorter. I wonder why the gear is so long. It's not like you are going to put a huge prop on it.

One of the first things I noticed about the nice looking fininsh is that it scratched very easily. I coated the model in a flat clearcoat for added protection.

What glue joints failed on your model?

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/19/2006 4:19 AM

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Hey Larry,

Do the building thread right here. After all this is the Nitro Planes Kits thread. I am almost done with a Nitro Planes Yak 54 ( all wood ARF). I am planning on adding some building notes on theYak to this thread soon, so we can all compare Nitro Planes quality on some of their kits.

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/19/2006 6:26 AM

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Not to add fuel to the fire but I did alot more re-enforcing of a H-9 corsair 60 than I did to my CMP 120. Sure I had to do some minor beefing up and use other hardware where I felt it was needed but that's what 15 yrs of building kits does....makes you more particular.
I spent more for the retracts I installed which failed on a landing than I did on the CMP.
Sometimes you get what you pay for sometimes you get ripped.

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/19/2006 8:50 AM

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Larry, I don't know. I would prefer a new thread. That makes it easier to find for people looking.
And this thread (I think?) is about nitro plane kits in general. CMP is carried by more people than nitro. By the way you can get some CMP models through Jamara, they put their own purple text on green background logo on the package

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/19/2006 12:29 PM

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Zeno,
I have to agree with you, I'll start a new thread since I'll only be talking about one particular plane, the CMP 50 Corsair. NitroPlanes is just one of many outlets for this and other CMP planes.
Bob, to answer your question about the glue joints, I was only kidding. I'm sorry I mislead you. My old Corsair went in nose first and parts flew everywhere. On the serious side, after checking all the damage, not one glue joint broke loose. Also, the cowl was completely destroyed but the fuselage was still in one piece and only had some minor damage to the bottom of the front section. Not even the firewall broke loose. I pulled the motor out yesterday and checked for damage to it and the mount, nothing. Just a lot of mud. The wing was another story, it was broke in several places and I felt it would be cheaper to replace the complete plane then try to repair all that damage. What is nice since the plane is apart, I can check to see where there may be weak places and I'll tell you boys, this is one tuff plane. The balsa broke in many places but the glue joints all held up pretty well. I had reinforced the landing gear section and that broke out all in one piece with the ribs so that actually held up very well.
On the new plane I will be using RhomAir retracts, a new set I have had for some time. It will be a bit tricky to install but it can be done from what I can see. I'll get into all that when I get started building.
Larry

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RE: nitro plane kits - 10/21/2006 7:30 PM

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hi guys I put together a long ez white one , it flew great but to fast extremly fast for my taste, it also did marvelous rolls fast and tight, anyway
i was wondering has anyone put together a cessna 307 skymaster from nitroplanes.

about the glue, no mather whixh arf is put together i allwasy reinforce all the joints i can get to, with carpenters white glue

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