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Baja Motor Stalling - 10/1/2006 9:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi my buddy has a hpi baja and it is stalling out when he gives it gas but it you lift up the rear end and then give it gas it runs fine but as soon as you put it back down it stalls out we are not to sure what is going on but this has only got about 1 gallon fuel threw it please any help or any info on the cause for this problem

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/2/2006 2:57 AM   
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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/2/2006 10:25 PM   
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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/2/2006 11:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd say carb settings are off or dirty carb. Why would a clutch make the engine stall. That makes no sense. Besides you'd hear a broken spring rolling around in there. When a engine stalls underload it's usually poor carb tuning.

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/3/2006 12:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with Badz, a clutch wouldn't cause that but a carb to lean would. Have you guys made any carb adjustments?


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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/3/2006 3:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		hes saying its stalls as soon as he puts it on the ground, so the engine shouldn;t be under load, it would idle, but its stalling so thats why i say clutch.

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/3/2006 2:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Daboo, can you please clearify what is going on. I went back and re-read your post and it is a little miss leading. You make is sound like a carb issue, then you make it sound like clutch by saying it stalls when you put it down. We just want to make sure we give you the best advise.

Will it idle while on the ground, and then stall when you give it gas? Or will it run with rear in the air and then stall when you put it down?

I have never broken a clutch spring, but I don't see how that would stall the engine. I would think if it was a clutch issue that it would just sit and rev. But, I have had my carb to lean and have done just about the same thing you are talking about. It runs fine with no load, but when you put the rear down and give it gas it's to lean to take the load and stalls. Being to rich could do the same thing too, but it would sound a little boggy.

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/3/2006 9:59 PM   
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hes saying its stalls as soon as he puts it on the ground, so the engine shouldn;t be under load, it would idle, but its stalling so thats why i say clutch.

No he say's it stalls as soon as he applies throttle. Which could be a ton of things, air leak, choke still on, carb too lean, fouled plug, but I'd wouldn't ever think it'd be the clutch but I've never had one fail to know how they'd act with it broken either.

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/4/2006 2:29 AM   
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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/4/2006 4:46 AM   
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Hi my buddy has a hpi baja and it is stalling out when he gives it gas but it you lift up the rear end and then give it gas it runs fine but as soon as you put it back down it stalls out we are not to sure what is going on but this has only got about 1 gallon fuel threw it please any help or any info on the cause for this problem



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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/4/2006 8:16 AM   
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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/4/2006 12:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		a broken clutch spring WILL cause it to stall, i went through 2 springs this summer and everytime thats what happends, it stauls instead of idling, but in his case, sounds like anything can be his problem.

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/4/2006 12:40 PM   
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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/4/2006 4:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had the same thing happen my FG beetle would stall or lack of power on acceleration found that my clutch spring was broken that was a five shoe clutch I think you would hear a noise with the stock baja clutch

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/4/2006 6:29 PM   
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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/4/2006 7:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		nope no noises, mine broke on my baja, no noise, just a stall when on the ground, it would run at a high idle when rear in air. the wheels will spin creating inertia, thus causing the idle to raise up a bit with wheels lifted cuz the internia of the spinning wheels cuzed the motor to run at a slightly Highe RPM... fix the spring (well i had to replace the clutch as the shoes were SHOT>...

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/4/2006 10:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		A broken clutch spring will stall the engine the spring keeps the clutch shoes closed so when it brakes as soon as the engine is started the clutch is engaged hence when u place it on the floor the engine stalls .i also found that when u pull the pull start the rear wheels will spin..as for hearing it i didnt!. when i striped it down there was only half a spring there

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/6/2006 12:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi sorry for not replying sooner but been busy at work had no time to read post but this is what is going on we can get the car to idle fine and as soon as you try to give it gas it boughs down and stalls out but if you lift up the rear end and give it gas it does not bough and runs fine in till you set it back down we did not make any carb adjustments to it but did do some after it was messing up but it did not make it any better this was all done in the same day my buddy has now got the motor torn down and he found 3 big and deep scratches on the inside of the head on the carb port side and he found the same marks on the piston head and the connecting rod is a little bent we are guessing that he got some dirt in the carb and it made its way in to the motor and thats what caused the scratches and maybe that was the problem it was not getting good combustion in the head but now he is on the way of upgrading the motor with a big bore kit

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/6/2006 12:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		all so the clutch was fine it still looks like a new clutch all the springs are there and the pads still got a lot of life to them

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/8/2006 3:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Seems your carb is set too lean, richen the low screw CCW rotation just a little bit and see if it gets better. It should IMHO.
You might want to do the same thing on the high screw. Get it running rich and then lean it slowly to run smooth and clean but not so lean where you burn it up, stall or bog. The transition while pulling the trigger should be smooth with very little bogging.
Lets us know how you make out...

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/8/2006 4:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		if its got scratches, lean it up and burn it up, you ll need a new top end anyways. cylinder and piston, i have some very light scratches on mine stock 23, at its a gutless wonder. got sand in the intake and exhaust side. intake side was twice as bad, no amount of richening or leaning will fix it. a race ported 27cc kit will do it wonders, but you say the crank is bent? if it is, then you may as well get the ESP 30.5 kit, as you ll need the kit wiht crank. 180.00 get new bearings too while your there switch them out... only 20.00 and you ll have a brand new motor..
now Properly ail the filter, get an outwears, and use greese between the prefilter and the filter housing to seal the ends. keep that dirt/sand OUT OUT OUT>

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/8/2006 7:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Timmahh for the info and thanks to all the forum members for there info on my boys problem but he has given up on the engine and has order all new hop up parts for it he is going with the 30.5 cc Big Bore kit with the stuffer crank and a Redneck Dual Stage Air Filter he all ready has a Pre-filter from DDM and he is going to go back to the Stock exhausts and not use the X-Can i think and I'm not sure if he was replacing the Engine Bearings but I'm guessing that this buggy is going to fly for sure he will have it all done by next weekend

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/10/2006 12:41 AM   
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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/10/2006 1:04 AM   
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Hi sorry for not replying sooner but been busy at work had no time to read post but this is what is going on we can get the car to idle fine and as soon as you try to give it gas it boughs down and stalls out but if you lift up the rear end and give it gas it does not bough and runs fine in till you set it back down we did not make any carb adjustments to it but did do some after it was messing up but it did not make it any better this was all done in the same day my buddy has now got the motor torn down and he found 3 big and deep scratches on the inside of the head on the carb port side and he found the same marks on the piston head and the connecting rod is a little bent we are guessing that he got some dirt in the carb and it made its way in to the motor and thats what caused the scratches and maybe that was the problem it was not getting good combustion in the head but now he is on the way of upgrading the motor with a big bore kit

If you blew the engine in 1 gallon with that dual stage air filter on your either not oiling it properly or using the wrong oil. When you oil these filters it's important to also oil where the foam makes contact to the plastics to assure a proper seal so dirt can't pass through. Also use a good grade air filter oil, you can purchase it from a motorcycle shop that sells dirt bikes. Also whatever you do DO NOT use a K&N they are junk.

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RE: Baja Motor Stalling - 10/11/2006 1:00 AM   
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