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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher ground... - 10/5/2006 7:09 AM   
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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher ground... - 10/5/2006 8:00 AM   
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JATO, JATO, JATO , already has longer a arms, great 2 speed trans (actually shifts and is adjustable), the suspension can really be adjusted for low road hugging and off road hight. Not to mention it would eat the 1/10 or 1/8 redcats and spit them out. not to mention the spur gear doesnt strip.

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher ground... - 10/5/2006 4:22 PM   
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u basicly just described my JATO eating, all aluminum and carbonfiber himoto cyclone truggy complete with 2.8 jato wheels, and im pretty sure my himoto rapinda pro 3.3 would whip the JATO onroad and still cost a $100 less, il race ya any day


Jato 3.3 would destroy any china made rc


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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher ground... - 10/6/2006 2:29 AM   
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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher ground... - 10/6/2006 2:39 AM   
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Jato 3.3 would destroy any china made rc


Yes, that Taiwan made Jato is automatically better than anything made in China

I'd be more than happy to put a Hurricane against a Jato 3.3, on the track, off the track, or in the air. Don't bother with the top speed argument, because the price difference will allow the Hurricane to get a good clutch and a bigger CB

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher ground... - 10/6/2006 2:39 AM   
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All in good fun though

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher ground... - 10/6/2006 2:43 AM   
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Jato 3.3 would destroy any china made rc


Yes, that Taiwan made Jato is automatically better than anything made in China

I'd be more than happy to put a Hurricane against a Jato 3.3, on the track, off the track, or in the air. Don't bother with the top speed argument, because the price difference will allow the Hurricane to get a good clutch and a bigger CB


I havent stripped any gears in my jato since i have had it, not to mention it would eat any redcat 1/10 car stock and probably modified. I would hope that a 1/8 buggy with a much larger engine and 4x4 would beat a 1/10 truck, not to mention the hurricane would cost as much.

At least the Taiwan spur gears outlast the chinese ones even though the taiwanese has much more power

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 2:46 AM   
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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher ground... - 10/6/2006 2:47 AM   
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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 2:47 AM   
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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 2:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		jato handles good on road, pretty good off road, my hpi mt2 would beat it on a track though, it looses grip real fast on dirt, takes alot of driving ability but it is fast.

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 2:49 AM   
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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 2:50 AM   
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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 2:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		The revo is nice, and i like my mt, its fast and handles real good. My volcano is pretty good too, have only ripped a couple of gears with it, the 2 speed tornado i have is horrible, i get a few tanks and rip the spur, i even changed clutch bell 2x's.

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 2:57 AM   
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I used stock volcano shocks but I actually filled them with oil and made sure they did not leak
I used the stock Tornado springs with spacers to make up the height difference
I used volcano dogbones up front
So if i want the ride height i leave the spacers in.
If i want to drop the car down remove the spacers and it is back down low again in 2 seconds


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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 2:59 AM   
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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher ground... - 10/6/2006 4:34 AM   
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My Jato cost me $329. How much did you spend with all your hop ups, 3.3 engine etc to get a car that might keep up with a stock jato? emphasis on the word might.

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well i bought the car for $80 put some aluminum hpi shocks and carbon fiber bumper tiedown on it that i had lying around, boght the motor for 150, the carbonfiber upper- plate was made for me for free from a freind, and the new wheels and tiers and custom painted body i also had already, so u tell me how much it cost, way less than a jato. and my all aluminum truggy was all together prolly pretty close to $330 and dont use "stripping gears" against himotos and redcats, cuz iv had traxxas and hpi's do it way more then my cars.

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 4:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		say what you want, you paid just as much as i did on my jato, mine was new, yours was used. You say dont use the stripping gear story but it is the truth. Try to sell you himoto truggy and i will sell my jato and i am sure mine is worth alot more. If it wasnt for the free stuff and stuff you had lying around and buying the car for $80 used, you would have spent much more for a car that is worthless and probably not nearly as fast as my stock, new jato.

Dont get me wrong, i think your car looks good, i am not putting you down. i own 3 redcat/himoto vehicles, 1 volcano stx and 2 of the tornado xp's. The truck is a single speed and i have only went thru a couple of gears, i am pleased with this. The buggy is junk. both of the radio's had to be replaced, redcat gave me new ones but they only lasted a month. I have went thru countless gears, chubbysdad can tell you about this. Pull starters broke, weak front shock towers and shocks falling apart. i dont even use them anymore, too much aggravation. i have many other rc's, all brands and forms of tranportation, with no problems like the redcats.

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 6:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		speaking of which...haven't eaten a spur on the XL yet. Hopefully I can get a 2 speed bell in soon.

BTW, the aluminum shock tower for the Tornado costs less than a plastic shock tower for any other RC i've ever owned...and uh, you're not supposed to land upside down

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 8:35 AM   
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say what you want, you paid just as much as i did on my jato, mine was new, yours was used. You say dont use the stripping gear story but it is the truth. Try to sell you himoto truggy and i will sell my jato and i am sure mine is worth alot more. If it wasnt for the free stuff and stuff you had lying around and buying the car for $80 used, you would have spent much more for a car that is worthless and probably not nearly as fast as my stock, new jato.

Dont get me wrong, i think your car looks good, i am not putting you down. i own 3 redcat/himoto vehicles, 1 volcano stx and 2 of the tornado xp's. The truck is a single speed and i have only went thru a couple of gears, i am pleased with this. The buggy is junk. both of the radio's had to be replaced, redcat gave me new ones but they only lasted a month. I have went thru countless gears, chubbysdad can tell you about this. Pull starters broke, weak front shock towers and shocks falling apart. i dont even use them anymore, too much aggravation. i have many other rc's, all brands and forms of tranportation, with no problems like the redcats.


first my truggy was the same price and its new, and it ALL ALUMINUM ALL no plastic pretty sure u cant say that bout yrs and actualy the parts i had lying around came off of a fully built to the max HPI RS4 that i bought for $100,so for $330 i have a jato beating on road car, and i dont know how u can say it would loose when it has the 3.3 is your jato a 3.3? thats a .20 dude in a car that wieghs nothing, my on road car does over 70MPH! dont get me wrong i would love to own a jato i have great respect for traxxas after all i have a traxxas motor, but u need to have some more respect for new brandslike himoto and redcat, u use the example that himoto an redcats resale value is lower that yrs, well duh dude its a new brand not many people know about them yet out side of us, but rc driver magazine has done reviews on himotos and have been very impressed, il laugh when himoto is bigger than traxxas, and that day is coming u wait. and do u think that maybe the stripping gears so much could be from builder eror?

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 8:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		My car drives fine. I use to lose dog bones but now that I have gone through the switch , to volcano dog bones, I set up the spacing correctly and everything runs fine.

I enjoy the ride height. In most cases I’m not running my car on finished tracks and I run into a lot less rocks.

As for the ride height causing the car to flip more, I guess it is true but I haven’t noticed it. I’m not racing anyone to the finish line though I just enjoy driving the car.

I know I can’t speak for everyone but the only problem I’ve had with Redcat is that they are not rtr out of the box. I’ve lost screws and wheel nuts and the shocks were not sealed or filled with oil.

I can say that if you take the time to break the car down use locktite rebuild the shocks I cannot see them being any worse then other cars. I guess I’m lucky with my gears. The only ones I have had problems with were when the engine becomes lose from the mount and tore them up.

I’m not an expert driver and I realize the Jato is a lot faster than my car but I have driven my cars in 2wd and you can have it. The 4wd makes it a lot easier to get the car hooked up and heading where I want.

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 8:41 AM   
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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 9:45 AM   
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il laugh when himoto is bigger than traxxas, and that day is coming u wait. and do u think that maybe the stripping gears so much could be from builder eror?


nitro, it's funny that you say that. one of our customers took their car into an old local hobby shop of mine.

Back when I bought my Stampede, they told me "Traxxas? I've heard of them but they SUCK, get a Tamiya (they sold Tamiya)" back when I started with my Stampede in '95. their walls and shelves were stocked with Tamiya stuff and not much else.

fast forward to 2006. One of our customers goes into my old haunt with his Redcat Volcano. the same guy that told me "Traxxas sucks, get a Tamiya" told him "Redcat? Man, I dunno... Get a Traxxas!"

Coincidence? I hope not...maybe 11 years from now i can be making what the guy at Traxxas in my position 11 years ago is making now

We do have a few issues we need to work on, but I'm confident in our cars and product in general, and with a little work (and marketing) we'll take off like Traxxas did.

BTW, on the gear stripping issue...Some cars are just HARD on spur gears. I know my old Duratrax Maximum loved to eat them, but there was a lot of chassis flex...we WILL get the issue resolved.

Some people have more problems than others, it may be a manufacturing tolerance issue? I'm not sure yet. We'll pin it down

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 3:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		the reason redcat will never go anywhere is that they are the same as himoto, smart tech, and several other companies. Traxxas makes their own version of cars, not knock offs of others. The only difference is the stickers on the bodies. They need to change alot of things before they get any good reputation. This forum is full of people who have had nothing but problems with them. i am not new to this hobby and have to say i have never seen problems or heard of them from any other manufacturer. i am sure that someone is going to say how wrong i am and how great redcat is but the facts are the facts. The only reason the hurricane is a decent car is because it is an almost perfect knock off of the kyosho, real original. the lightning is a knock off of the hpi rs4 as is the rest of the line with different size tires.

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RE: ? on how to make the tornado xp with higher groun... - 10/6/2006 8:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		lol thats a great storry thunderbird, i havent been in the hobby for that long but even in the time that i have traxxas has come a long way, i think its just a matter of advertiesment himoto is advertising in rc driver but the adds arnt up to par with other major brands, and like u said theres a few things that need work but what can u expect its a new brand and they will just need a little time, rc driver mag said that they were "going to take the rc world by storm" give it some more time and itle happen whether u like it or not ehroof. and ehroof, how is the lighting and rapida a rs4 knock off? have u ever seen an rs4? they are totaly different in every way, and what is the 10th scale and truck, buggy and 16th scale truck knocking off? nothing. the mag mentiond several new innovations that himoto has come up with that are good ideas. dude since u hate the brand so much maybe u should stop buying redcats and go to the jato forum, this forum is for helping people with their rides, not critisizing them for buying them!

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