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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 3:59:02 PM   
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hey everyone, i come seeking some words of wisdom...and/or encouragement

right now i own a blade cp which i absolutely CAN NOT fly. ive had it for, well years really. i crash alot and dink around but nothing i could even remotely consider a real flight. i fly my planes fine, but this heli thing is killing me. i got into the e-heli so i could have something to do in the house. the blade seems a bit too large, and completely uncontrollable for a living room flyer.

so my question is.... for something in the cheap living room flyer catergory, how does the falcon 40 stack up? is it stable? durable? how big is it in all honesty?

im kinda of stuck beteween this heli, a walkera 4#3, HBFP, or maybe even a coax heli.

id like something cheap, around 100 bucks. any more than that and i know ill just end up getting a trex 450sa arf. which isnt what i really need.. but you know how boys with there toys are.

so basically i need cost effective, STABLE, good trainer for pilot with absolutely no skills.

i already own spektrum, lipo's, chargers, brushless esc's and motors from all my plane crap.. so upgrades shouldnt be too costly. but i would like it to fly decent right out the box!!!!

as always i appreciate the help, ive tried to find the answer im looking for but in 230 pages of posts im just lost.

Kaw - Welcome! The Falcon is a 300 class heli just like the blade CP. It is about the same size. It works fine as a livingroom flyer. The headspeed for a FP is not as high as the CP's and the blades are plastic so it will not cause too much damage in the event of furniture jumping out and hitting the heli With a little setup you can get the Falcon to be pretty stable. Check out my most recent hover training vid. You can see that stability is achievable. http://youtube.com/watch?v=qj1ahVQta_g
It is certainly not as stable as coax but then again you'll not find a single rotor heli of any size that is. Coax are just designed to be stable thus making them very tame but also very limited in preformance. I do own a CX2 and it's a blast to fly inside but they are outgrown very quickly and you'll want to pick up something else shortly after buying it. The Falcon is very similar to the HBFP and pretty much the same as the Walkera 4#1. I fly my falcon pretty much stock. I did put superskids on it. I swear by them . I have crashed my heli so badly that it was basically destroyed and have not had to replace the superskids at all. They also add weight which increased headspeed and provides a more stable hover. You are on a thread which has some biased opinions on FP helis but I'm sure anybody here would recomend the Falcon as a good low cost trainer.

Good luck!

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 4:17:18 PM   
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I like to share the way I did the boom support and retained the stock battery tray on Superskid at the same time. So far the rigid structure has been strong enough to withstand hard crashes. Knock on woods. The tension from the 2 curved carbon rods reinforce the boom structure like a curved carbon tennis racket head.

Like the support. Looks cool too. I'm sure it provides great support. Maybe next time I break one of mine I will give that a try. Right now I run mine with a modified SuperSkids support. I straightened out the loops at the back of the support pulled the vinyl off and put CF tubing on it their place. Works pretty well and gives very solid support to the boom. It'd be nice to loose the heavy SuperSkids fin though. Might have to give it a go.

Nice Mod!

I didn't get the oppertunity to give my FFF another go this weekend as it was raining, blowing, and thundering here in good ole central Indiana all weekend. Today is sunny but the wind is blowing. I did get plenty of packs in my garage though. Good hover training. I'm getting more confident with my side-in both right and left and also with doing piros. I can now regularly pull off the piro in a fairly tight space. Just have to make sure the heli is very level and stable before I go. Any drift at the start of the manuver just gets amplified by spinning and I end up loosing it. I am really enjoying the tail authority of my new lengthened tail boom. I would've never thought that 1.5" could make such a big difference. This just may be the answer to all my tail issues. The motor spins at noticably less RPMs which can only improve the life span and I have plenty of umph in reserve for tail manipulation. As a matter of fact I can now spin the heli faster CW than with the rotational torque CCW and that was never been the case before the mod. It does look a little lankey now though and it will no longer fit into the box. I need to pick up another carring vessel now. I don't like carring it all exposed like. I'll post a couple of pics later. I also took some video of my piro practice last night which I am going to try to get posted this evening. Stupid editing software held me up yesterday.

Hope you all have a good day!

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 4:50:45 PM   
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I had thought about using a longer boom, too. Glad to see it works out. Can't wait for the pictures!

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 6:06:05 PM   
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I'll definately get the pics up tonight. We'll see about the video. I usually don't use my wife's Ulead 10 editing software other than to convert file types but last night I got brave and tried to edit some clips together with some fades in between and it just fell apart. I guess I'll have to ask her for help For me it's like stopping to ask for directions. Usually don't do it unless I have too

Has anyone found a clear or monotone canopy that will fit the Falcon? I'd like to do a custom canopy but can't find one that will fit. I've seen a couple of people put HBK2 canopies onto the falcon but it's so large it seems to look funny. Every place I look seem to only have stock canopies for the FP helis. If I wanted a HBFP, #4, sabre canopy I'd be in buisness

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 6:20:49 PM   
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Do you want small scale heli fuselages? There is a fellow who sells them under the name Xelltronics - has several styles available made for the Falcon40 or similar helis. He has a Bell Jet Ranger, UH-1 Huey, UH60 Blackhawk, Apache, and more. If you don't see the one you want listed, send him an email. $25+7.50 s/h.

Here's one for example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-SCALE-HUEY-UH1-RC-ELECTRIC-HELICOPTER-BODY-FUSELAGE_W0QQitemZ320248712523QQihZ011QQcategoryZ2563QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 6:35:53 PM   
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Those are pretty cool. I might have to pick up one of the heuy's when my skills get a little better. I'd just destroy it right now I was really thinking more along the lines of a sport canopy similar to the stock canopy but paintable. I suppose I could paint my stock but sanding priming etc I'd rather purchase one clear and go from there.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 10:06:57 PM   
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UTM, I painted one of my stock canopies with Krylon Fusion plastic paint. I just peeled the stickers off cleaned it good with alcohol, taped off the windshield and sprayed away. It looks good and no sanding or priming.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 10:23:17 PM   
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I didn't even think that the fusion paint would stick to the stock canopy. I'll give that a go. My wife is qute the artist she does all sorts of media including auto pinstriping and has done some pinup style art on some collectors cars. She's also done some motorcycle tanks. She has agreed to do a flame job for me which has me pumped. I'm in charge of base color and I want it to look nice. I was going to break out my airbrush but didn't think I would have a shot at painting over the stock canopy thus the search for a clear lexan one. I did manage to locate one for the BCP but am not sure if it will fit. It is a 300 class so it should. I'm thinking sunset orange base with purple and green flames!

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 10:40:46 PM   
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You said 'motorcycle tanks' - the first thing I thought of was a Kettenkraftrad, not a fuel tank...

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 5/12/2008 10:44:25 PM   
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UTM, sounds cool, the only problem is the limited colors of the Fusion paint. You might have to buy some FASKOLOR for the airbrush. It should stick to the canopy. It's made for Lexan. You might have to lightly scuff the canopy with some 1000 grit though.

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