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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/7/2009 10:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		looking to get  a set of supper skids but need help finding a set. i only know of one site and they are all sold out, any help please? and i also need to know the proper way to secure the battery, pics would help. thanks


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/8/2009 10:40 AM   
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If I understand right you have a new motor but haven’t tried it?   Sparks from bad or dirty brushes will make the servos chatter, and the heli will only barely lift off it at all, so my first thought is the motor.
If that’s not it, I would look at the battery or bad wires/connectors. May be a problem with the 4in1.
Low batteries in the transmitter will make the servos chatter or glitch, but I don’t think that would keep the bird grounded.
 
 
Looks like Michael is out of stock. Go directly to the source and get them from Gary - He takes good care of his customers too.  Click the link for the superskids300.  About half way down the page is a link for the online manual - shows how to mount the skids and how the battery is mounted.  It's a much better battery setup than the factory.    here's the link.  www.super-skids.com/


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/8/2009 7:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Lee,

Welcome to the thread!  Glitchy servos can be a bad servo too.  Unplug one and see if it goes away.  Also swap the servo connectors in the 4n1 and see if the problem follows to the different channel too.  I had one do that and it was due to the output gear stripped and it was causing the other servo to twitch.  I got it fixed but then damaged the servo again so I'm just going to get a couple new ones, ones that will fit and also know that I can replace just the gears if need be as well.  Eventhough the new servos are fairly cheap I like to fix stuff and would much rather replace the gears if that is what is wrong with them rather than tossing it out.  Goodluck and enjoy your FP heli.  Check in often because there are some very knowledgeable folks on here.  They also have some good connections as well.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 2:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks ya'll. I did all the test I could think of. Turns out, it is the servo channel on the rx that is bad. So, here is what I did. I replaced the rx with a eflight 6 ch 2.4 ghz that someone had giving me. Had to file down the connecter ends of each servo to plug them in. Then I had to solder new connecters to the motors. Plugged them in with resistors on the hot lead. Installed a 7.4 volt 800mah 10c lipo. And did some test. All seems to work fine. I just need to adjust the gain and prop pots to get it perfect. But I think this setup will work. I was lucky enough to have the extreme skids on her when I got her. hehe. Havn't tried to fly her yet. Still working on zero'ing her in first. Atleast now I have controll. hehe. Happy flying. And thanks for the welcomes and advise. Lee

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 3:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lee,  That is part of the fun of this hobby.  You sound like you will take to it like a duck to water. Some time you just have to be innovative, and make things work.  Good luck and safe flying.   Jim

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 6:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Howdy Falcon 40 folks,
After a year on fixed wing styro-planes (the Art-Tech P-51D & F-4U) I finally stepped over the line to heli's. I picked up a brand-new Falcon 40 from NitroPlanes for $99 after shipping and tax.
I've flown a lot on Microsoft FSX (which is meaningless for the most part) and a good bit on the freeware sim. I'm starting to venture outdoors but I want to learn how to balance the heli. I noticed that when I spin up the main rotor, there's a little wobble to it. Do I need to rebalance something? I also noticed there are no reference marks for the main blades. How do I line them up? Should the hardware be loose enough that when spinning the centrifugal force will pull them into position?

Any and all help/advice for a heli-newbie is welcome and appreciated!

(yes, being stubborn I tried to fly it right out of the box several times and only managed to achieve uncontrolled hover usually resulting in a less-than-controlled landing. only a skid mount has succumbed to the forces of impact and has been easily repaired. This is one tuff bird!)

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 6:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Yellow crow. I have it all ready for a testing. Just gotta build up the courage. hehe. I am gonna attempt to spin her up in the living room. Check everything and see if I can get her off the ground. My living room is pretty small, so it all has to be perfect for liftoff. hehe. Happy flying, Lee

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 7:57 PM   
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Lee, if living room is small, be careful.  The heli will go left on you just before lift off, also the tail is going to spin right.  So be ready.  Also don't do it on carpet.  When heli slides left, skids will hang in carpet, usually results in tipping over, busting main blades and possibly breaking rotor core.  Do you have the fuse mods installed?  If you don't, then don't try to fly until you do!!  Believe what I am telling you. This will save your 4in1.  Otherwise, ????? Not a happy camper.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 8:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, Yellow Crow, I have the fuse mods installed. Thanks for all the advise. I will be trying here shortley. I will report back. If anyone is interested. Lee

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 8:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, that's good to know (about it rolling left and yawing right at lift-off). I'll be practicing in my garage tonight.

Yellow Crow; Does this require both tail-rotor and roll inputs to cancel or just a tail-rotor input?

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 9:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		ANYBODY HAVE A FALCON 40 FOR SALE!? I used to have the falcon and loved it... wanna get another one to mess around with in the yard


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 9:59 PM   
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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/9/2009 10:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		zoechops,  yes requires both inputs.  Just take it easy(small right stick inputs). But once it gets light on skids then you just have to bite the bullet and get off the ground.  You can't just just keep easing up throttle.  But remember, you will have to reduce the throttle slightly, in order to keep heli from shooting streight  up.  All this just requires practice, practice, practice.   If you are like all the rest of us, you will break something, but that is part of the learning curve, and thank goodness the Falcon is easy and fairly inexpensive to repair. (Plus it is built like a tank)

Have fun, fly safe. These things can and will hurt you if not careful.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/10/2009 12:23 AM   
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...and it looks like I'm like the rest of you!!!

After some practice in the garage, I have a much better feel for it (thanks again for the roll/yaw at takeoff advice!) The next step was to break something, check! I'm off to either NP or H-L to order another one of those main-rotor cross-bar  thingys with the paddles. Judging by the cross section, I'd say that sucker is carbon fiber! Took one helluva beating too!



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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/10/2009 12:56 AM   
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Zoechops –
 
I come from a fixed wing background as well. Learned to slope glide on a 2 meter glider in SoCal back in the 80’s. Used to love slope gliding the little Ninja. No slope places here in WA so I converted to nitro. Now fly the Goldberg Tiger 60. I’ve looked at those little foamies and they look like loads of fun for a small investment. One would think you have a pretty good grasp of nose in flight if you can fly and land fixed wing, but that’s not the case for me. I’ll be interested to see how you fare. Keep us posted – you’re the only other fixed wing convert here, and I need the company. And don’t give up. A heli is no where near as stable as a fixed wing, so you’ll have to learn all over again. 
 
I also fly FSX (started that with FS4). I used to do scenery for fllightsim. I was part of the Glacier Bay v2 project – Did all of downtown Juneau and a lot of other small bits and pieces. I’ve talked to rw heli pilots who tell me the helis are modeled very well and behave very much like the real thing. But they are modeled as a full size heli so things happen much slower than they do on the falcon. I fly the Robbie and the Jet -Ranger a lot. Found it didn’t help much with the falcon, but as my falcon skills get better, my flightsim skills improved too. 
 
The free sim is better than nothing, but consider getting something better like clearview, phoenix, or even great planes.
 
The mains do need to be loose to self adjust. The majority of people here go by the book and keep them just loose enough that you can move them with your finger with almost no effort. At least two of us keep them what can only be called sloppy loose. Mine have almost no resistance to movement at all. Out of the box the blades should be balanced, but you might want to check them. Even a small nick can throw them off. A damaged rotor core or bent main shaft can cause wobble too.
 
Replace those crappy factory skids with super skids (see above post) and you’ll never have to repair them again. And like Jim just said to Lee, do the fuse mod.
 
Lee –
Keep in mind you just did some major mods to your bird so it may react in some wild ways until you get it tuned in. I’ve been thinking about getting that 6 channel receiver myself so I can use the transmitter from the Lama 4.  I’m wondering why you put resistors on the motor and what value?
And please keep us posted on how that works out.


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/10/2009 2:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Karlik. I put on the fuse mod. Sorry for the word resistor. Hehe. I am not that bright sometimes. I meant the fuse that everyone gets. And because I am using a eflight 6ch rx, I did not wanna burn it up with the stock battery. I almost got it off the ground. hehe. My motor (I think is too old) and not powerfull enough to lift off. I have another, but don't know the condition of it yet. I bench tested it and it seems ok. But I may have to get another new main motor from somewhere to get her in the air. Oh well, maybe one day I will get to fly the falcon. Just not today. hehe. Back to the co-ax's for the day. Happy Flying all. And thanks for this thread and all the advise. I will still be reading it to see how you all are doing. Lee

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/10/2009 9:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got a new problem with my falcon, all out of nowhere it now shakes when flying. i checked all the linkages and everything seems to be fine. i didn't crash or anything it just started to shake violently. 


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/10/2009 9:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		The first time I had a wobble and didnt know where it came from it was the rotor head core. You might not have crashed but if your main blades hit something chances are that its broke. Also check blade balance. If that does not fix it your main shaft could be bent. Hope this helps. Also make sure your blades are not to tight and your flybar paddles are level.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/13/2009 12:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I need a cheap place to buy a replacement new main motor and blades. Can anyone point me in a good direction. I am poor, so it has to be the cheapest I can find. Is there an eflight comparison? HELP. hehe. PLz. Lee

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/13/2009 12:50 AM   
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Lee,   www.ushobbysupply.com     Absolutely the best.  Good prices, excellent prices,  lightning fast shipping.  And CUSTOMER SERVICE that cannot be beat.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/13/2009 1:58 AM   
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Thank you Yellow Crow. I was gonna order from them. But they don't accept paypal. Arrggghh. I still guess I will have to wait to fly the falcon. Lee



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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/13/2009 2:09 AM   
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Status: online 		Yep - Michael at USHobby is THE best place to buy Falcon parts.  And check his site often for 2 for 1 sales, or things like "Get free blades/mainframe/etc when you buy a xxx".  I get 99% of my stuff from him.  And he's an all around nice guy to boot.

For a motor you might consider a century.  www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p

Costs a little more, but better performance and with a little care and maintenance it will last longer = cheaper.  Spray some contact cleaner from Radio Shack on the brushes every 10 to 20 flights then run the motor a minute or two. Actually, cleaning applies to the factory motor too.

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Michael uses Paypal to verify/process orders, so he may allow paypal orders?  I'm honestly not sure. Send him a PM and ask.  Go to the top and click inbox, then click send message.  His address is just ushobbysupply.



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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/13/2009 1:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you Karlik. I will try the contack cleaner on these motors and see if it helps. I will also try to get in touch with Michael and see if he would accept paypal. I hope so, cause I would like to buy from him.  And thanks for the heads up on the other century motor. Sure appreciate ya. Lee

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/14/2009 2:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have great news! A friend of mine in Texas said he had an extra stock motor for his hbfp that he would send me. YEA! I might just get her in the air afterall. Yes. Lee

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/19/2009 9:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I ordered a new tail rotor but its not the same as the original.  The one that came on it has a board on the back of it and the new one has no board and came with what looks like a resistor or capacitor on it.  I didn't know what to do with that and just soldered on the the new motor and it works but it's very jumpy.  It sounds like its cutting on and off or maybe its just the gyro working.  Any ideas on why its not the same.  I ordered the part from xheli and it looks just like the one shown in the picture but its not the same as the one that came with the heli.

The new one is on there and there is the little resistor or whatever on the table that the new one came with.



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