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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/30/2009 6:05 AM   
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Status: online 		I have that motor so I can see the cap you need. The number 104 isn't 104 uf (micro farad), that be much larger physically than what is used. (actually, it would about the size of the motor or slighly larger)

It's a code - it means a 10 with 4 zeros after it, which would be 100,000 pf (pico farad) or .1 uf.

You could use this as a direct replacement.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062365

edit - As Jim pointed out in an earlier thread, that cap will filter out noise. Without it, your servos will probably be real twitchy.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 6/30/2009 2:25 PM   
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Status: online 		Thanks Larry...I'll stop by this afternoon and pick them up. Also thanks for the connector. I should have my Falcon up and running this afternoon. Thanks again for everyones help. I couldn't do this without you.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/3/2009 4:25 AM   
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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/5/2009 1:22 PM   
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The final version should look really cool.

Notice the plastic wind shield for the tests? Wonder how they'll make something that small and light work in the real world?

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/video-pentagons-robo-hummingbird-flies-like-the-real-thing/

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/5/2009 2:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Larry, That little guy's really koool. Put me down for one too. Thanks for sharing.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/6/2009 4:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: karlik

This looks interesting -

www.miracle-mart.com/store/index.php

Anyone tried or atleast ordered it yet? I will if no one else has. This looks like a good idea. I had never heard of that place. Nice find Larry.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/9/2009 1:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		To save my bearings, instead of doing a pin through the rotor head and dremeling and fitting where it goes in the rotor itself I am going to put a VERY TINY dot of CA on the rotor head itself.

This should make it so I will not lose any bearings again! I lost one recently so I ordered 8 more and some extra rotor head cores just incase. So if the rotor head does fail I will have an extra with extra bearings.

Anyone see any problems with this?

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/9/2009 2:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mackey, A lot of the guys have ca bearing to the little legs on the rotor core. Seems to work just fine. Just be sure that you dont get any in the bearing itself. Good Luck. Jim

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/9/2009 8:38 PM   
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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/10/2009 2:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Everyone still recommend the hitec h-55 servo? I recently stripped one I believe. Making a clicking noise. BOY These gears are weak.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/12/2009 7:48 PM   
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It has been a while. I have been stuck out on the road working. I just received my new motor and lippo battery. Just waiting on my cnc upgrade to come. Cant wait to see how all of this is going to work. I will get a picture when i get it all back together and before I crash again. All of parts should be here when i back from CA.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/12/2009 7:52 PM   
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For battery I like this one-

https://www.ushobbysupply.com/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=62&osCsid=3047caec0db1ff5f5f377704697ed9cb

I use this charger

https://www.ushobbysupply.com/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=347&osCsid=3047caec0db1ff5f5f377704697ed9cb
https://www.ushobbysupply.com/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=755&osCsid=3047caec0db1ff5f5f377704697ed9cb

My brother got this charger - more money but really nice

https://www.ushobbysupply.com/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=564&osCsid=3047caec0db1ff5f5f377704697ed9cb

I use the Hitech HS-55 and the work great. They run backwards compared to the factory servos so you have to reverse the dip switch for that channel.

Futaba makes a few that will work - better servos but more money. I did a quick compare here - post #7270

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4826535/anchors_8426087/mpage_291/key_/anchor/tm.htm#8426087

Yellow Crow/Jim is using the the Towerpro Sg-90 from USHobbysupply and says they work great. If Jim says they're good, I trust him. And the price is way better than the Hitech. If I ever need to replace them again, I'll go with the SG-90.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/12/2009 10:22 PM   
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I will sell this stuff 50% off what they sell for on xheli. Batteries go together. Ran maybe 10 times each. I bought a blade 400 so I'm parting this one out. I have a 3 and 1 also. Tail motor is broke on that frame. I'm trying here first then ebay. nevrsumr@hotmail.com

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/13/2009 1:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey everyone. I just flew my falcon for the first time. WOW! What fun that was. I can't believe what a great time I had. Ok, I know. A 30 secound flight isn't much to you all. But is was wonderfull for me. hehe. Happy Flying everyone. Lee

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/13/2009 2:08 AM   
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Status: online 		Larry,
If I had answered you this morning I would have told you that I've been up and flying about 6 packs now HOWEVER a crash today has me down again(cracked frame). Here's my problem...while I'm flying, my heli starts spinning uncontrollably until I crash or for about 5 seconds. It has happened numerous times and I'm at a loss. It sounds like the tail is being powered at full power. Sometimes it will only do a quick 180 and then be fine...talk about flying by the seat of your pants! I've got the DD tail on it. No extra wiring except a fuse mod so not sure what the problem could be. I know intereference but I'm not really near anything when I'm flying. Any suggestions by anyone would be helpful. I don't mind breaking parts when it's my fault but this is getting frustrating.

Great Job Lee...this heli can take a lot of abuse and is a quiet capable little heli.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/15/2009 5:12 PM   
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Status: online 		Frame change is done, just waiting on thread lock to dry. I put new batteries in transmitter and replaced capacitor on tail motor while I was down. I hope one of those help my spinning problem. If someone knows of something I could try... let me know. I'll pass on results when I get back in the air.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/16/2009 10:59 AM   
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Status: online 		I don't have much in the way of help.
Mine did that sort of thing when the orig tail motor was going bad.
Could also be a bad wire on the tail motor.
The transmitter either has some sort of failsafe or it just doesn't work good with low batts - all channel start to get glitchy. Changing the batts may fix it.
May even be the gyro in the 4in1. Since those don't seem to go bad often, I hate to suggest it unless you're sure. You don't really need a spare. Might contact sightseeker above and what you can work out with him?

Two things I would do -
get a can of good old contact cleaner and clean the heck out of both motors.

Unplug everything except the tail motor from the receiver, hold the heli in place and fire it up. If it still does it, it's either the tail motor, transmitter, or the 4in1. If it doesn't do it, plug things back in one at a time, saving the main motor for last.

This is one of those problems you might post in the main elect heli forum. A few of those guys have been around a long time and seen it all.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/18/2009 12:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, I am new to R/C helicopters and started with the Falcon40. Read all the forums, took some of the suggestions, and am finally able to hover, climb and land on a pool table in our break room. Can go through one Lipo without crashing. So thanks to all for all the tips. One area I did take to heart was spare parts. I work on a rotational basis in So. America, so it is critical that I bring every spare part I would ever think I need. I recently purchased some parts to bring with me, to include two spare servos. Imagine my surprise when I started going through my parts and it is apparent the servos had been installed prior to sending to me. I of course got on-line and immediatly sent an email expressing my disappointment. That was two days ago and as of yet have not received a response from the Company.  I also want to Thank Michael at US Hobby. I ordered a CNC rotor core, and needed it shipped to someone in the States so they could hand carry to me, the part left the same day I placed my order, so US Hobby is going to be my new parts source. Oh, the place that packaged used servos as new? Nitroplanes.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/18/2009 12:25 AM   
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Quick question on a replacement motor. I have Superskids, and am using the 7.4 1300 LiPo battery. I have replaced one stock motor, and discovered the motors come with the manufacturers sticker  covering one of the cooling slots. I removed the sticker on the new motor and now clean it with contact cleaner periodically. What is a good direct replacement motor? Thanks for any advice and tips



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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/18/2009 3:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is not direct replacement unless you go brushless. The typical 370 carbon brushed motor is really the only one that works well. some have used the X-treme 380 motors. This is still carbon brushed and just has a fancy outer cover which is really stupid. It's top is removable so that you can insert new brushes. What's the point ??? The motor still heats up and you still have to buy replacement brushes. Plus the 380 motor is to strong for the tail motor. So when fying, it is difficult but not impossible to fly. Needless to say, it's too much power and also can blow your Rx, which is half the cost of your heli.

The brushless mod is a better choice because te motors are very efficient relative to the standard 370 carbon brushed motor. No more heat sinks are required as the brushless motor stays luke warm to the touc after flying. It also emitts lower levels of RF Noise reducing main motor glitches. These motors are brushless and hence there are no parts to wear out other than the pinion.

Anyway, below is a video of the brushess Exceed Falcon 40. In addition to the main brushless motor is te Super Skids landing gear with metal tail struts, the X-treme productions metal composite blade grip, metal control frame, a fuse mod for the tail motor, and an upgrade LIPO batter to 11.1v 1,000Mah 20c. The heli weighs in at about 13 ounces.





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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/18/2009 11:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the information, I like this size helicopter because I travel for work and can transport it, and parts easy. I would eventually like to upgrade to a 6 channel, but cannot move up in size.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/18/2009 3:33 PM   
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I USE the xtreme 380 motor from USHobby and it is NOT to strong for the tail motor, although the factory tail is marginal. I suggest a direct drive tail with it, but I did fly it for 2 weeks with the original tail motor. I went direct drive because the geared tail would not fit in the fuselage I got for the falcon, not because it wouldn't work. If not for the fuselage, I'm not sure I would have gone direct drive. IF you push the throttle forward too hard the factory tail can't keep up with it. Simple solution is - don't push the throttle too fast. This is a fixed pitch heli - no matter what motor you put in it, it will hover at the same head speed, and the factory tail will handle it. Just use the same smooth control movements you're using now and don't try to go 3d with the poor thing. Yes, there are time you recover from a wind gust, etc and have to give the throttle a punch; and you will have to "fly the tail". But this cheap little heli doesn't have a HH gyro. If you can hover, climb, and land on a table you're dong that already. Put your heli with the factory motor on the floor at zero throttle and jerk it to half throttle. Did the tail motor keep up? I am not recommending the 380 as a replacement, although it does work fine. Cost is the biggest drawback.

It is true both the slo-max and century appear to have been discontinued, and many of us are searching for other options.

Our resident "pitch man" has made some contradicting statements - first that there is not a direct replacement unless you go brushless. Not true - there is the 380, although it is also expensive, a little difficult to mount because it uses a spacer, and may not be the best way to go. It comes with the spacer - no extra parts are required - therfore it IS a direct replacement. Then he says it's still carbon brushed and just has a fancy outer cover. Finally he states it's too strong for the factory tail motor. Either it just has a fancy outer cover, or it's a stronger motor. Fact is, it is a stronger motor. I used 7 amp fuses with the century, the 380 needs a 10 amp.

I posted way back in this forum that when my factory motor failed I replaced it with the Century. I then stripped down the factory motor and the only problem I could find was the commutator was dirty. The coil resitance was the same as an unused factory motor. The brushes showed no sign of wear. I cleaned up the commutator, re-assembled the motor and it would have been fine. The best advice I can give you is get a can of contact cleaner from Radio Shack, Wal-Mart, etc and keep the factory motor clean - it's admittedly a cheap piece of crap, but it will function until we can come up with something else. And no you don't have to strip it down to clean it, just spray cleaner in through the vents at the top of the motor and run it 30 seconds or so. Same holds true with any brushed motor.

And you are correct, remove that lable. And it is advised to put a heat sink on the factory motor, and required on something like 380.

The question you gotta ask yourself is how long will I fly the falcon before moving on to a bigger or better bird. Is it worth the expense of putting in a brushless system?
It sounds like you've read through this forum, how many people have you seen who converted to brushless? In my honest oppinion this heli is not worth the expense.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/18/2009 4:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I tend to agree about the cost, I have way more is spare parts than I spent on the basic Falcon40, Superskids, 7.4 1300 LiPo battery, and spare just about everything. I am going to put the metal rotor core on it, have it coming down next week. I noticed with a new rotor core everything is stable, and even without a hard crash, I can develop cracks, and flying gets unstable. I am at the point I can hover for minutes at a time, go right,left,fwd and back. Now for the nose in. Thanks for all the advice, and have already started with the contact cleaner routine. Tomorrow I am installing the SuperSkids Boom, and for preventitive measures, a new tail motor.
Unfortunatly, due to my location, I have to pack just about every part imaginable, because if somehting breaks, i am done until I return to the States. Last trip I was able to get servos in Bogota, and have these hand carried to my location.
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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/18/2009 4:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		GREAT POST Larry, I agree with everything you said. You, myself, and even the old timers like Uri (UTM) have elected to stay with brushed, and I am totally satisfied. Have a good one Guy.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/18/2009 4:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Direct drive tail? Not sure I understand? Can I modify the Falcon to a different tail drive system?

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