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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/20/2009 10:16 PM

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The cnc core will still allow the blades to pop off, but since it doesn't flex like the plastic, they don't come off as easy. You still need to keep a fairly large magnet handy - the bearings may still pop loose and a magnet is the only hope to find 'em.

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draining fuel tanks and taking care of weight and balance requirments after a mod. So smell like fuel, time for a shower.

I also fly wet fuel (Nitro) fixed wing rc. You can't help but get fuel residue on your clothes. After a day in the hot sun at the flying field, the castor oil from the nitro fuel takes on a unique odor that cannot be described or compared to anything else. Quite amusing when a few of us stop for burgers and a BS session on the way home, watching people at other tables sniffing the air and trying to figure out what that is.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/20/2009 10:28 PM

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Larry,

I know, jet fuel has a distinct smell, had to drain about 300 gallons, could have need worse though. The problem, after 34 years of doing this, still have not found a good product to remove the smell from skin. Tried 'em all, SimpleGreen works pretty good, but forget getting some of that where I'm at.

Good advice on the metal core, you asked just enough questions to lead me in that direction. After looking at the design, and all your feedback have decided that will be the best compromise between reliabilty and a bunch of broken parts.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/22/2009 2:47 AM

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I have been on hold with NitroPlanes On-Line chat for almost 45 minutes and am just about ready to disconnect. I bought my Falcon40 and most of my spares parts from Nitro, but will not order again. Too bad, because I will be ordering another helicopter in a few months.

Brings me to my next question, I want to upgrade to a 6 channel, need recommendations. The only criteria is I travel and need something that is not too large.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/22/2009 3:00 AM

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Danny, my rec. will be the e-flite blade 400. very popular, and at least as much info in the forums as on the falcon. Just my opinion, I'm sure there will be others. However I think I would steer clear of any of the exceed stuff. I think they definately have a winner with the falcon, but a bunch of problems with the others. JMHO. Jim

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/22/2009 3:23 AM

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Danny, my rec. will be the e-flite blade 400. very popular, and at least as much info in the forums as on the falcon. Just my opinion, I'm sure there will be others. However I think I would steer clear of any of the exceed stuff. I think they definately have a winner with the falcon, but a bunch of problems with the others. JMHO. Jim

I have got a lot of good advice on this forum, so will take a look at it. Thanks Jim.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/22/2009 3:48 AM

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However I think I would steer clear of any of the exceed stuff. I think they definately have a winner with the falcon, but a bunch of problems with the others. JMHO. Jim

Ain't that wierd? They built a little a little piece o crap heli that turned out pretty good, but what we've read on the other more expensive stuff ain't so flattering.

Blade 400 same as Blade CP? I think so, but not sure.

If you want really small there's the Walkera. http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id=D0756143&pid=D0756141
My brother has the little walkera FP. As long as there's no or little wind, it's more stable than the falcon. But it's so light I find the wind tolerance much lower the falcon. Pretty much an indoor heli in my oppinion (speaking of the FP, I assume the CP would be the same.)

I've heard good things on the belt cp https://www.ushobbysupply.com/product_info.php?cPath=30&products_id=332&osCsid=fa04f78437bf1d5f0d2d40210cd0d109

I've had good luck so far (knock wood) with BPHobbies. http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id=V665645

The only one I've flown is the Falcon and the little walkera, so all I can do is repeat what I've read. Maybe ask the same question in the main elect heli forum. But make sure you make your requirements very clear. Those guys tend to suggest the big T-rex for everything, even a basic trainer.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/22/2009 12:30 PM

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Ok, ordering from Nitro is not an option, which vendor would anyone recommend to order the e-flight Blade 400 from?

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/22/2009 9:43 PM

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I sure hope Jim or someone else has some suggestions. I checked the places I really trust and they don't have Eflight (don't know why, that's a great heli that's very popular).

I have ordered some stuff from this place, and so far they have done good. http://www.heli-world.com/searchresult.aspx?categoryid=619

The problem is, they haven't screwed up yet.

I placed 8 or 9 orders with xheli/nitroplanes ( same place, one is the plane side and the other is the heli side) and had no problems. Then they screwed up and I went through same as you - total run around and no help at all. Every company is gonna screw once in a while, it's how they handle it that will make or break 'em.

Heli-world is fast, don't know if the price is competitive. And no idea how they handle problems 'cause there haven't been any yet.

I suggest report your problem with nitro to BBB.org. Xheli has become a member to try to fix their reputation. The only problem, they are playing on human nature that only a small fraction of people will report issues to the BBB, so they seem to only expect to have to fix that small percentage of problems that get reported and the rest will just go away. The only way you will get it fixed is to report to the BBB and make an unflattering post to them in the main elect heli forum.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/22/2009 10:58 PM

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I agree, Nitro did fine, I ordered quite a bit from them, and it is all how a complaint is handled. So far there is no word from Nitro, and they have lost my business. I have a recommendation of Ultimate Hobbies, so will give them a try, good price, and this helicopter gets extremely good reviews.

http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/blade-400.html

This is one of the reviews I read, sounds like what I am looking for.

I can leave the Falcon down here in So. America, use this in my spare time, and fly the Blade 400 at home.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/23/2009 1:40 AM

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Installed the CNC metal core, what a difference in stability. I was using the 850 LiPo which makes it kind of flighty due to the light weight, tomorrow I will try the 1300, the extra weigth makes it a bit more stable.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/23/2009 2:43 PM

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I'm not sure I would recommend the 380, but it does work fine. It's just a lot of power you don't need yet. It's main claim is replaceable brushes, but those don't wear as fast as we think. I got mine as a Chrsitmas present. I'm honestly not sure if I would buy one, or stay factory. If I was in your spot with those as my only options, it would be a tough decision. I'm sure there's something like the century still out there, it's just a question of ''do I want to use factory'' until something better shows up? I'm not telling you don't buy it, just give it thought and make your own decision and don't let me sell you one. (edit) - If it was still avail, the slo-max Jim uses would be a better choice.

Would the CP Pro 2 motor work on the Falcon?

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH1310

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/23/2009 2:47 PM

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Spray some contact cleaner from Radio Shack on the brushes every 10 to 20 flights then run the motor a minute or two. Actually, cleaning applies to the factory motor too.

Do you spray the contact cleaner then wait until it dries out to run it up OR do you run it while you're spraying it and run it until it's dry?

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/23/2009 6:53 PM

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You need to run the motor before it dries.

I'm too lazy to take the main blades off every time, so I usually just give a half second spray up at the top of the motor from each vent hole and run it at quarter throttle for 30 seconds or so. I do it every week or so just to keep the motor clean. If I suspect the motor is really dirty (loss of power, sparks from the brushes, etc), I'll remove the blades and give a few short squirts while the motor is running.

That motor you linked looks like it'd work. It looks a lot like the xtreme 380, even has replacement brushes. Not sure about the pinion. 8 tooth seems a little low, and I'm not sure it will match up with the falcon gear. May need to put a pinion with a set screw on it so you can move it up and down the shaft.

I like the look of the fuselage on that page. I may research a little and see if it'd fit the falcon.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/23/2009 7:03 PM

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I'm getting fed up with the weather. It's up into the 80's or more every day (may break 100 this weekend) but we have a marine layer coming in from the Pacific. Starts out cloudy and cool every morning, then the clouds burn off and it gets hot and humid. Come sunset, the clouds drift in again. I'm looking out the window and it's the same thing every day, the limbs on the fir trees are bouncing around in the breeze. I've only had 4 or 5 flyable days this summer.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/26/2009 1:05 AM

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Ok, bit the big one today, got over confident, should have been practicing a nose-in hover, but got too high, went through a rafter, co-workers shouting encouragment, made it through the raafter, and promptly hit a wall. Now, seems to be a bi hard to control, then will have some un-commanded pitching, and yawing. Can get a decent hovver for about a minute, then will start twitching. Checked servos, batteries, rotor core etc. Any suggestions? Did I damage the receiver? Still getting the blinking light.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/27/2009 2:26 AM

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I was waiting to see if anyone had any real ideas - I'm at a loss. Sounds like you smacked the wall pretty hard? And sounds like it had a long fall to the floor?

It could be almost anything. Try holding it by the skids and throttle up - you should be able to feel when it's normal and when it goes off on it's on. Look for servo movement with no control input, or maybe the servo arm doesn't move but the control linkage is loose, or anything that might give a clue as to what direction to head in.

Might even unplug both servos and hold it by the skids. That way you know the reciever and servos are pretty much out of the picture. If you still feel it pull randomly it's something else.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/27/2009 2:42 AM

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Larry,

I have checked for physical damage, and changed the tail motor as I had a new one on hand, now I will start on the electrical components. Thanks for the advice, but I guess that is what happens when you get in over your head. I vow not to do anything like that again until I can at least do a nose-in hover.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/28/2009 12:24 AM

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I'm having such a problem with my Helicopter glitching I'm about to throw it out the window!

Anytime I try to fly it is like I'm being shot down out of the air after a few minutes of flying. All of a sudden I'm flying great and then I hear the tail spin up and there I go straight into the ground.

I haven't noticed any problems with the servos (HS-55's) but only with the tail and possibly the main motor? It is hard to tell. I do have an aftermarket motor on it. One of the Century or another motor. Can anyone think of a way to fix this glitching????

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/28/2009 2:00 PM

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Hello All,
Well got back from the west coast. Put my heli. back together I can get up in the air now . new main motor did the trick. But I lost it in a sudden breeze that decided to come by. I crashed snapped the fly bar. Does any one know the corect OD dia. of it?
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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/28/2009 6:32 PM

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Paul -
If memory serves the flybar is .078. I bought a 3ft piece of music wire at the local hobby shop and cut a piece the same length. I'm not sure if it added to stability like others have claimed, I could barely hover for more 10 seconds at the time, but it won't break.

Mackey-
Do you remember if anything changed when it started, like a new motor or servos, or even a bad crash?
Mine was doing some wierd stuff recently - I could a hear motor spin up and the tail would go nuts. I thought I heard the tail motor spinning up, but it turned out the the main motor had slipped forward and the pinion was slipping on the main gear. The main would spin up faster, but the rotors were free spinning and slowing down, and the tail couldn't adjust to the change. Your problem is a lot like Danny's - can't think of any one specific thing so you may have a hard time finding the problem.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/28/2009 6:35 PM

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Well I did change the main motor, but I switched back and still have the same problems. Teeth are engaged on the main rotor. It becomes worse and worse as the helicopter goes further away. Sometimes though it will glitch right infront of me.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/28/2009 6:37 PM

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Larry, tried everything, the noticed when I connected the battery, the servos started twitching, not consistent, but still twitching, then would quit, and would not repeat. I just changed the servos, plugged in and no twitching, will not fly until letr this evening, but will see.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/28/2009 6:41 PM

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Thank You Larry,
I went up to the local hobby shop and picked up a package of the Carbon Fiber Rod. All i could find was .o70. Just a sloppy but I cut a peice and it seems to work.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/28/2009 10:10 PM

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Well I did change the main motor, but I switched back and still have the same problems. Teeth are engaged on the main rotor. It becomes worse and worse as the helicopter goes further away. Sometimes though it will glitch right infront of me.

Ahh - I think I know your problem.

The transmitter either has a failsafe to warn of low batteries, or a flaw that makes it glitchy when the batteries are low. If it gets worse at distance, it really sounds like that's the problem. Try a fresh set.

Paul - keep an eye out for music wire. It's steel, and won't break. There are some guys early in this thread who said it flexes less and makes things more stable. One guy said he got it at the craft area in WalMart. Not at my WalMart but worth a look. I'm sure Tower has it, but you'd have to need other stuff too to make the shipping charges worth while. Like I said, I couldn't fly worth crap when I broke mine, so don't know how it does for stability, but I haven't broke it again since, and it comes in the right diameter.

Actally I just looked at Tower - way overpriced. Mine was under a buck for one 3ft piece.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 7/28/2009 10:25 PM

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Well this is the first one I broke. I will use the the stuff i picked up at the hobby shop for now. Cause I too still cant fly for crap. I havnt had a lot of time this summer neen gone most of the time. But I got my new motor and few other parts at least i can get up in the air now.

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