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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 6:04 PM   
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I will see what I can find.
I assume you are talking about the Fusae Mod?
And the Walkera 4 is identical to the F-40


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 6:35 PM   
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Okay here is a Pic for you
.If you have a Wal-Mart in your area I used standard sized automotive fuses and slip over conectors, both purchased at Walmart for less than $6. works perfectly.



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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 7:09 PM   
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Before I bought my first heli I read over ''The Electric Helicopter Beginner's Guide''. I read version 17...they've updated it to version 18. It's there if you want it. We can all learn something new.

http://www.swashplate.co.uk/html/ehbg.html


Sweet, I read it when it was 17, I'll have to go over it again (especially since I'm on the verge of CP).


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 7:11 PM   
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I actually had a busted 4in1 before, and DKnovic fixed it for me. (I'm not volunteering him to do it, just letting you know he fixed it). I'm going to tell you the same thing others told me...open up your 4-in-1 and take a pic or two of where you think it's damaged...it may save you a lot of money if it's just a ''toasted'' mosfet. The whole discussion about that is in the walkera #4 forum about halfway down the page. Look at my picture of the 4&1, and notice how small the hole in the mosfet is. This just goes to show how hard you need to look to find the mistake.

I'm sure you can find someone to help you
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Of course I'll help! As max says, take a couple of pictures so we can tell you if it's just the MOSFET (which it usually is).

There are pictures here on this forum:

page 165#4114, page 180#4482, page 204#5097, page 237#5910

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 7:12 PM   
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Inilitized & everthing seems ok. Throttled up, no vibration, steady for a lift off to about 3'. Thought I would pass out. Hovering with small inputs. Still not the same as the sim. Afraid of another chicken dance as in heli 1. I may take you up on your offer to go over this bird to make sure. Got an email for your address?

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 7:18 PM   
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k so i am sitting here looking for a 4&1 and all i can find is a 35mhz what is the differance from that and a 75mhz? and/or will the 35 work with what i got? i have a older falcon 40  it came with the 75mhz..


As far as I know, you can't just swap out the crystals to get the 35MHz 4in1 to work with the 75MHz TX.

Both the RX and TX need to be in the same band (35, 75, etc.) and the same channel.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 7:43 PM   
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Maybe we are talking different birds. Mine is a Falcon 3D. Nothing says it is a 40. My bad. Is there a difference?

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 8:07 PM   
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Hold on Norm,   If you can, post a pictire of your heli.  Falcon 3d is a totally different bird than we have been talking about.  Jim


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 8:36 PM   
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k i got no camera right now but i took the 4&1  apart and the little black thing(mosfet?) is has burned on the throttle side. i would have no clue how to fix that ..so i think what i am going to do is just get the new 2.4 falcon40 and put all my upgrades on it..


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/11/2009 11:29 PM   
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Thanks for teh Complment Norm keep working. and yes if yor Flying a Falcon 3-D its a CP heli not a FP(fixed pitch) the Falcon 40 is a Fixed Pitch. but no worries we can still help. a lot of us fly CP helies so we will just have to adjust our thinking now to help you better. if you can post a pic of your Bird we can all see what kind of Falcon you have and all be on the same page

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 12:12 AM   
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k i got no camera right now but i took the 4&1  apart and the little black thing(mosfet?) is has burned on the throttle side. i would have no clue how to fix that ..so i think what i am going to do is just get the new 2.4 falcon40 and put all my upgrades on it..

All depends on what you want to do. As long as that's the only thing wrong, you can ship it to me, and I can fix it for $5 (and, of course, ship it back! )

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 12:17 AM   
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Disney

Maybe we are talking different birds. Mine is a Falcon 3D. Nothing says it is a 40. My bad. Is there a difference?

Norm


Falcon 3D

Falcon 40

Which one?

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 12:23 AM   
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Dave Yor 3D link it off

Here the Images.

Which one is yours norm.

We can probably help either way.




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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 12:35 AM   
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I will take you up on that offer if you think you can fix it if not its worth a shot..It dose turn on and the tail rudder works and all the servos work. i chanced the wires around to make sure the main moter works and it dose. When i opened the 4&1 it looks like some one took a hot needle to one of the little black things. i think they are called (mosfets).just shot me a email and i will sent it.


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 12:38 AM   
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I can tell you from first hand experience. Dave can fix it.
Did two for me.



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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 1:26 AM   
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To everyone!

It's the red one. Falcon 3D. Boy do I feel dumb. Thought they were the same.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 1:50 AM   
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No problem Norm.
Now lets get you flying.
I along with others on this thread fly CP helis.
We can help. : )


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 1:51 AM   
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Norm,  Don't feel dumb.  That is a cp heli, so that puts you ahead of me if you hovered that.  But at least I'm glad that the help we tried to give enticed you to try again and not sell.  Hang in there bud, you'll get the hang of it, and then you'll really start to enjoy these things.  Anything I can do for you just let me know.  You can always send me a PM.  Take care friend.  Jim

on edit, I do know that blade tracking is critical on cp helis. Something we don't have to worry about on the fp. So check that.  Some of the other guys can give you better info than I can.   JB




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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 2:27 AM   
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I will take you up on that offer if you think you can fix it if not its worth a shot..It dose turn on and the tail rudder works and all the servos work. i chanced the wires around to make sure the main moter works and it dose. When i opened the 4&1 it looks like some one took a hot needle to one of the little black things. i think they are called (mosfets).just shot me a email and i will sent it.


Yep, definitely a blown MOSFET

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 4:00 AM   
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Yep Dave can fix it. i am still flying the one Dave fixed for me.

Norm. Now there is whole new list of things you will need to do. So every body will be giving you a lot of info at once. Now Blade pitch and tracking is a Big deal so you don’t get High and low Vibe in the rotor head and like me I dialed out all my pitch trying to track the blades. Check now check every screw and make sure it’s tight. Buy a bottle of lock tight, blue is what you want. . After that is done check the leveling of the swash plate (there is a tool for it) we will work on dialing in some Bias latter. The CG on this best is very important I am going to look up the stand you can build for that it’s easy and it helps with CG. O.K. hear we go. Disconnect you Motor its 3 bullet connectors, Trims at 0 right stick centered and left stick down (throttle off) make sure PIT trim is 0 if you have it and hover trim is 0. Now plug in the battery let it do its thing. Now you want to see if the swash plate moves up and down evenly you don’t want one side to slide up higher or it go up UN even. You will need a pitch tool and check you pitch at full throttle and 0 throttles. To make sure the pitch curve is right. . Radds school of light it great. defently read it. i left lots of and i'm sure people will have more to add and you will have meny more qustions so please ask.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 4:10 AM   
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Two questions for you Norm.
Is your Main Shaft 5mm diameter?
Is your swash plate 120 degree?


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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 10:03 AM   
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Hello Everyone,

I just joined the site and can say this is a major resource for anyone starting into the hobby. It helped me choose a trainer heli, where to buy it and which spare parts to preorder with it.

So far here's what I've ordered...

Falcon 40 V2 Series
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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 10:58 AM   
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k so i am sitting here looking for a 4&1 and all i can find is a 35mhz what is the differance from that and a 75mhz? and/or will the 35 work with what i got? i have a older falcon 40  it came with the 75mhz..



A little additional info.

In the US rc aircraft use 72 mhz. Cars and boats (surface vehicles) use 75 mhz.

35 mhz is used in the UK for rc aircraft, cars and boats would be 40 mhz.

A 35 mhz receiver was made for use in the UK. And Disney is correct, you can't convert it just by changing crystals, it's just too big a jump from 35 to 72. Aside from the crystal, there are a bunch of tuned circuits inside that would need to changed.

If memory serves, dknovick is using a mosfet with a higher current rating, so after he fixes the one you blew it'll actually be better than new.


Norm -

As I read through the most recent posts I was going to ask if you were sure you had a falcon 40. As I said before, the falcon 40 doesn't have a tail servo. Now that I know you've been flying planks for a while, I have no doubt you know what a servo is . So when you said you found a loose connection on the tail servo, my first thought was "whoa! He really does have a tail servo, so this ain't a falcon 40". Glad to see you got it straightened out and a found a couple of guys who can help you out.

If it makes you feel better, some time ago someone asked a question about the falcon 3d (and he actually said falcon 3d) in a different forum. I answered with info that would only apply to the falcon 40. That reminds me, I should probably find that post and type in "I'm sorry" one more time.

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 11:39 AM   
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The main shaft is 5x 98mm.
How can one tell the degree of the swash plate?

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RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum - 10/12/2009 11:57 AM   
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A 120 Degree Swash plate will have the Ball Links to teh Servos evenly located each 1/3 of the way aroung the perimiter of the swash.

EDIT : I checked Images of the Swash for the F-3D, you have a 90 degree swash.
Leveling it will be a bit harder as there is noi tool available to simplify the job.


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