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zergkiller -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/6/2006 4:06 AM)

How long did you guys have to wait for the UPS tracking to change from "billing information received" to "origin scan"?



robotronski -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/6/2006 5:13 AM)

Well, got the new battery setup installed. Have a 2-cell 1600mAh LiPo now. Did zero modifications to get it to fit in the original holder for the factory NiMh pack. CG balance was the same. This pack weighs 3 grams (1 penny) more than the factory NiMh pack. Weighed it myself to verify that.

So here's the performance report: Can fly with definite main rotor authority 11 minutes no probs. Had plenty of reserve power to get out of a close call situation w/ terra firma.

Landed and took a reading and still had 7.7 volts in the pack. Thats good.

Didn't want to drain the pack too low and damage it ya' know.

Also noticed I can fly even longer outside if I maintain steady forward flight, getting lift from the rotor disc in forward flight I guess???

If I can draft a camera person, I'll post a video. I'm no longer embarrased about my flying skills. Now, I hover to land and thats about it.

Even tried flying in a light breeze and had no probels , but it took some serious corrections to land when it got gusty. My landing pad is a 4x8 sheet of white plastic (old real-estate sign)

Hope everyone is doing good out there. Good luck, Robo







mikeang -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/6/2006 7:52 PM)

Hi all.

On the supplied transmitter i noticed that after some uses the throttle trim needs to go more up to make the main motor start spinning.This is about at 3/4 of throttle trim and little more.

Anybody else experience the same thing?

The throttle stick works fine and the power of the heli is good.

Mike



robotronski -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/6/2006 11:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mikeang

Hi all.

On the supplied transmitter i noticed that after some uses the throttle trim needs to go more up to make the main motor start spinning.This is about at 3/4 of throttle trim and little more.

Anybody else experience the same thing?

The throttle stick works fine and the power of the heli is good.

Mike


Nope, mines the same as always.

Only thing I did was open the Tx and loosened the tension on the throttle ratchet.

Mine was way too tight, made landing w/o a crash a real chore!!!



airshot -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/9/2006 1:05 AM)

Hello to everyone, new guy here with a Falcon 40 also, thought I would let you in on my findings. Tail motor went out after 6 flights, ordered two just in case.... have been purchasing my stuff from Raidentech...no problems. I am in Ohio usually have items in 3-4 days they always send tracking no day after order is placed. First thing I did was to install training gear, am showing improvement but is slow. Thought i might share my idea... took measurements from counter top to fly bar, cut some 2x4 material parallel on ends to exact height of flybar. Now I have an excellent reference as to how parallel the flybar is to the ground, make sure bat is plugged in to activate servos. Works great to readjust after crash (have been many) Also purchased an ICE charger and battery conditioner, this unit will charge any type battery!! Works well with my boat and truck also....I can get a solid 10 minutes of fly time and sometimes a little more with this charger, could only get 7-8 min with factory charger and less performance... Many thanks to all who have posted tips and tricks, these do help us newbies, I will pass along any more of my own findings as they appear............

Ken



airshot -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/9/2006 4:42 AM)

I thought I would pass along another idea, my blade assembly popped off and one of those little bearings came out, luckily i was able to find it. I came up with a solution to keep them on the chopper, take a small straight pin cut the head off then pass the pin completely thru the bearings and rotor head then bend a 90 degree angle on each end so the pin cannot come out and the bearings can't come off. you will need to take a small dremmel cutter and put a slot into the tiebar on the underside of the main blade holder so it will clear the pin where it passes thru the rotor head when snapped back on over the bearings. I have not had a bearing loss since.
Hope this helps you.........

Ken



robotronski -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/11/2006 5:18 PM)

Well, my Fleet of Falcon 40s have served their purpose. For those of you who are new here, I tried learning on a collective machine (Walkera 22E) lots of crashes cuz' it was just not docile enough for a beginner like me. Shelved it and ordered the Falcon 40.

I'm happy to report that I can now fly quite well. Yesterday was my 1st day to fly the Falcon outside on a breezy day. Its OK in the wind you just have to read the direction of the wind and adjust your flying style to always keep air moving over the main rotors. When its windy, I don't do a nice smooth banking turn for fear of a stall. I just use the tail rotor to whip the rear around and have no troubles with wind. Mind you I'm talking about 5-8 mph of wind here, not a real blow like some days have been lately.

So, I'm moving up to my new bird. Its an Align Trex 450SA, with the Astro 020 motor and a JR PCM radio w/ the Futaba 401 gyro, hitec meatl gear servos. Gonna put it together over the holidays and hope to have a mainde flight before new years. Been working a second job at night just to pay for it, the radio alone was a few $$ by itself.

I write because I want to encourage all of you who are having a hard time with the steep learning curve. Some of you have your hands full with a basic tail-in hover. Well, guess what so did I!!!!

Stick with it!!!! Practice Practice Practice Get as much time on the sim as you can, Practice some more and repeat.

You'll have a great time when you get to forward flight and it will come natural to you soon enough.

I'm not bailing on the RCU Falcon 40 bunch though, you guyz are Great, and wish all of you a Very Merry Christmas and may Santa bring you all those heli goodies on your wish list !!!!!! [:D]

Regards, Robo



airshot -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/12/2006 12:22 AM)

I have been reading all the recomendations on using the simulator, I have tried downloading the free one but can't get my falcon40 transmitter to work on it. I am NOT a computer wiz so I am probably doing something wrong. Can someone give me some simple instructions for setting up and using the simulator with my falcon transmitter???

For all of you that are struggling with your practice, practice does make perfect, well not perfect but I am now able to hover around in my garage without crashing. I fly two or three times everyday, more on weekends and after more than a month i am finally getting the hang of it. Over-correcting and not anticipating the chopper's next move have been my downfall. Practice and more practice are beginning to finally pay off, I can see myself making small corrections without thinking and I now see this is what is needed to fly sucessfully. Ant help with the forementioned problem would be greatly appreciated.....................

Ken



robotronski -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/12/2006 2:13 AM)

I tried the "Free Sim" that comes with the Walkera/Exceed helis. In fact anyone can download it for free. FMS website

For me it was not worth the bother of figuring out the port adresses cables and all that computer speak.

Most people recommend a more advanced simulator, but now theres more money involved as usual. Nobody ever told me RC Helis was an inexpensive hobby. Geez.....

Look for a used version of Realflight-G2 ( G2 = generation 2) Lots of people have upgraded to G3 and are selling the older version. Its a very good sim forall aspects of RC.

Here are 4 G2 versions for sale I just found for you on ebay a minute ago...

http://toys.search-desc.ebay.com/realflight-g2_Toys-Hobbies_W0QQfromZR41QQftsZ2QQsacatZ220

Be sure you get the transmitter and the original CD-Rom (don't let someone rip you off with a duped copy)

When it comes time to practice/learn all those inverted tricks, you'll want a "REAL" simulator for sure.

Sorry about the letdown. [8|]

MY opinion only of course.



TitaniumZX -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/14/2006 7:25 AM)

My falcon started developing a horrible vibration at speed pass 1/2 throttle. I've tried moving the flybars, weights on the flybar and new blades to no avail. I've inspected the linkage and gears, all appears to be normal. The funny thing is from time to time it'll fly smooth with no vibration whatsoever. The only thing I've changed are the installation of a new tail motor and super-skids. Any help would be appreciated.



robotronski -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/14/2006 5:10 PM)

Mine used to do that now and then. Was a simple fix too. I had the screws holding the main blades on a bit too snug. When I would load down the rotor disc in a turn or in a desperate attempt to not slam into the ground I would all of a sudden get a real bad vibration. You could see the tail boom shake as well as the landing gear. It was real hard to land at that point. Now I fly a substantially looser setup on the main blades and let G-forces sling the blades into alignment. This may not fix your problem but it did cure my vibration problem completely.

Hope it helps, Robo



akdude47 -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/16/2006 6:40 AM)

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rlowesman -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/16/2006 8:52 PM)

Can anyone tell me what steps to take to replace a broken rotor head? I tried taking it apart last night but couldn't figure it out. After removing the parts around it, it would not budge. Is it glued to the rod or am I missing something here?



uglyskier -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/17/2006 1:14 AM)

xheli.com and raidentech are the same company



makatron -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/17/2006 7:31 AM)

yeah xheli.com and reidentech.com are the same company, i got my walkera 22e from xheli.com and my falcon 40 from reidentech.com and there is the same address even the phones are familiar

makes me wonder why reidentech has lower prices than xheli???

btw, thanx to the magic of ebay and no reserve auctions i won a realflight g3 with 3 add ons for just 56.35 dollars!!!! muahahaha[>:]



TitaniumZX -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/17/2006 8:39 AM)

Wow...congrats on your purchase of G3 at such a great price. From what I have seen, the graphics are amazing.



mikeang -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/18/2006 12:04 AM)

Hi.

I am using the supplied NiMh packs for my F40, and i was wondering how deep should i discharge them.

What i do, when my heli has not enough power to stay on the air, i take it in my hand and apply full throttle until the motors stop spinning.
Its good that i make like this? Or it would be enough to charge from the point that there is not enough power to keep it on the air?Since there is no memory effect.

Mike



TitaniumZX -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/18/2006 1:53 AM)

You don't ever want to drain a battery all the way down as this could permanently damage it. When the battery doesn't have enough juice to hover, it's time to stop. Let the battery cool for about 20 minutes before charging.



mikeang -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/18/2006 11:49 AM)

TitaniumZX, thanks for your helpful reply.

Mike



jacksflying -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/18/2006 6:00 PM)

hey rlowesan i to had to replace my rotor head.... maybe your missing to see the tiny pin that goes across just above the swashplate just get a good grip with some needle nose pliers and pull..... you pretty much have to dissasemble the upper head and reasemble... not hard at all... lmk if you need more help



l5jazzplayer -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/19/2006 6:16 PM)

I'm a newbe to Mini Heli's and just got my Falcon 40. I noticed however that the main rotor is tilted about 5-10 degrees. When rotating it by hand the tilt moves with the rotation. In a spin-up test, this did not resolve itself and there was quite a bit of vibration. Fly bar and paddles are level and everything else seems to be perfect. I tried lightly bending the main rotor in the oposite direction but it flexes back. I don't know the terminology yet, but the plastic joint that goes up into the rotor housing between the two small bearings appears to be the problem. Could the axel that goes through the bearings be bent? Or could the bearings have shifted in transit and just need to be poped back into place? I don't want to go tearing this thing apart until I know what the problem is and I don't want to fly it this way due to the vibrations. Since I'm a veteran RC Sailplane pilot, I know not to fly something that's not right. I know Heli's are different than sailplanes, but this doesn't seem right, and from several posts I've read this needs to be fixed first. Any help would be appreciated. I've contacted xheli.com where I purchased it but they have not returned my e-mail.



makatron -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/19/2006 9:16 PM)

first at all mate, do not expect them to contact you soon, i purchased my heli there and it took almost 10 days to get an answer which wasnt the one to fix my problem, they just asked for more details to "try to help me out"

about the vibration, have you tried to loose the blades a little bit?? if you could post some pictures would be great to have a better idea what your problem is

keep us posted



J-Cube -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/20/2006 12:28 AM)

Got my Falcon 40 on Sunday! I'll tell everyone how it flies tomorrow (Wednesday). Then, if everything looks good, I'll get the Super-Skids! [8D]



TitaniumZX -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/20/2006 6:01 AM)

Super-skids are definitely the way to go with this helicopter. For those of you that are new, I highly recommend training gears.



DoomsDay -> RE: Falcon 40 (Exceed heli) Forum (12/20/2006 6:10 AM)

I was shocked. I ordered a dragonfly 4 and I guess they were out and sent me a falcon 40 instead. Im not going to complain about that! Anyways, This thread is the ONLY thread I have found on multiple sites about this bird. I charged up the batteries and scooted it around the floor a bit. Boy does this thing vibrate bad. The rotor blades are very stiff. I am going to try and loosen them just a bit to see if it gets rid of some of the vibration just before hover speed. I have not flown a heli for almost 10 years and even then I had only gotten to a point where I could hover really well. I had a gasser nexus 30 and boy did that thing hover smoothly. My flight experience since then has been parkflyers (gws tiger moth and MM dandy sport). At least with flying those, I have control reversal down no problem but I still feel very uncomfortable with the heli so far.

BTW, I noticed several pages back in this thread someone mentioning the flybar wouldn't go in all directions(up down left right). Mine was doing that to, at first I thought I was missing a link or something but I found it only does that when you dont have the rotors going. As soon as they spin up you now have full control.

Oh, I also found out I have a very brave cat LOL! I had the heli sitting in the living room giving it throttle to see how much it would take for lift off (didnt actually lift off) and the cat noticed the white strip on the end of the blade spinning around and around and so he felt it was his duty to smack it hehe. Luckily he missed.

any suggestions for someone just getting back into this? Anything I need to do to the falcon 40 right out of the box?

Thanks
DoomsDay



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