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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 10/30/2006 12:47:07 AM   
Bobby Folsom


 

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Status: offline 		I was finally able to fly the 2007 Sportsman sequence this afternoon - wind blowing in about 10 mph and sun about 40 degrees azmith (i.e. in my eyes). I did use my sunspot (sun abater) which helped but he low sun angle is not fun. The sequence flows very well and in my opinion flows better than the 2006 sequence. I also think it feels easier to fly maybe because of how well it flows. I actually feel more comfortable doing the 2 of 4 going into the reverse split S than I did with the 2006 maneuvor with the 2 pt first.

Bottom line is with more practice, the 2007 sequence will be fun to fly!! And, BTW, the Biela 26 x 10 x 3 really helps with controling the plane's speed

Bobby

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 10/30/2006 1:37:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good to hear Bobby.. I went out and flew it yesterday with the Gextra and I like the sequence too. Its easy to remember also..Maybe because of the good flow it has. The Gextra just plain sucks though...I cant wait to try it with my new Sukhoi when I get it...Keep up the practice....

Scott S.

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/20/2006 3:39:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Whats up all? I flew the sequence again today with Dans Dalton..Wow! If my Sukhoi flies half as good as it does Im in good shape... Im just really in love with this sequence. Its a blast to fly. We had a awesome day here in Sherman Texas. About 68 degrees 5mph sunshine. I sucked at the fun fly though..LOL...

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/21/2006 4:36:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi fellas! Dale and I are moving up to Sportsman in 07. I have a new saddle, an AirWild 29% Extra 260. It's cute and I can carry it! I have been flying the first 5 manuvers and like the sequence as well. Great temps/winds in Tulsa. My new bird is 4 lbs. lighter than the ol' Yak so vertical is NO problem. Dale upgraded to a Carden 40% Cap so it we are looking forward to a good year. I have my work cut out for me with one of the littlest airplanes in this class.

Are there any restrictions to flying the top of the cross box outside humpty with a tight radius or does the top radius need to mirror the entry and exit radius?

Hi Dan!

Does anyone know when IMAC site will have the written format avaliable?

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/21/2006 5:39:25 AM   
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Are there any restrictions to flying the top of the cross box outside humpty with a tight radius or does the top radius need to mirror the entry and exit radius?


The radius of the 1/2 loop at the top of a Humpty Bump does NOT have to match the entry and exit radii.

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Does anyone know when IMAC site will have the written format avaliable?


I am not certain that there are plans to provide narratives. Go here and grab a couple of resources on reading Aresti:

http://www.scaleaerobatics.org/aresti.html

Take a look at Aresti Made Simple and the Aresti Dictionary.

< Message edited by Phaedrus-MMVI -- 11/21/2006 5:40:26 AM >

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/21/2006 5:56:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe the entrance and exit radii have to be equal but the half loop at the top can be as large or as small as needed to get you back on track.

Bobby

P.S. I like the flow of the 2007 Sportsman much better than last year even though the 2007 sequence is very busy. Two things to practice are presentation and keeping lines between maneuvors short! I think we may see the judges start knocking off points if we do too much "flopping around" between maneuvors. Rick Byrd's judging school should tell us the real story. Rick, have you set a date and place for the judging school?

Bobby

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/21/2006 7:04:33 PM   
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Status: online 		Judges should have been taking points off all along. Remember, the next figure starts getting judged as soon as you hit wings level. So all the while you are flying a big long line you are getting judged for that next figure.

As an overall general comment I see most pilots thinking that they need to fly huge lines, tall figures and such. Frankly I love it as a judge. So many more opportunities to find fault.

Fly the shortest line you can while making sure it is apparent to the judges.

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/21/2006 7:57:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now wait............I never have wings level between manuevers. So I shouldn't have any deductions

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/21/2006 9:36:54 PM   
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Now wait............I never have wings level between manuevers. So I shouldn't have any deductions


No so. If you never get wings level you carry TWO deductions. One for exiting off level and then another for entering the next figure off level. So exit one figure with 10 degrees of bank, lose 1 point on the figure. Fail to correct it to a proper attitude (WRT to the CG) and lose anohter point from the next figure. A judge who REALLY wanted to be a hard a$$ might say you never finished the previous figure or had no line between figures and take 2 points off from each figure. This is the most restrictive interpretation of the rules and I feel it violates the spirit of giving the pilot the benefit of the doubt.

It is critical to get back to straight and level or else you are carrying your errors through every figure you fly.

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/22/2006 12:18:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Cool Jason. Cant wait to see yalls new rigs....

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/22/2006 12:28:14 AM   
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SPORTSMAN

1- Goldfish. From upright, push to a 45 degree down line. One positive snap. Pull ¾ inside loop to a 45 degree down line. ½ roll. Exit upright.
2- ½ Outside Loop. From upright, 2 of 4 to inverted. Push ½ outside loop. Exit upright.
3- Positive Spin. From upright, 1-½ positive spin. Pull 5/8 inside loop to a 45 degree up line. ½ roll. Exit upright.
4- Vertical Down Line. From upright, push to a vertical down line. ½ roll. Exit upright.
5- Humpty Bump. From upright, pull to a vertical up line. 2 of 8. Push half outside loop. ¾ roll on the vertical down line. Exit upright.
6- Half Cuban Eight. From upright, 2 point roll. Pull 5/8 inside loop to a 45 degree down line. 2 of 4. Exit upright.
7- Hammerhead. From upright, pull to a vertical up line. One roll. Hammerhead to a vertical down line. Exit upright.
8- Inside Loop. From upright, pull inside loop with one full roll at the top. Exit upright.
9- Teardrop. From upright, pull to a 45 degree up line. Pull 5/8 inside loop to a 45 degree down line.
2 of 4. Exit upright.
10- Aerobatic Turn. From upright, 180 degree Aerobatic Turn. Exit upright.

Jason is this what you wanted
murry

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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/22/2006 3:39:09 AM   
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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/22/2006 3:51:26 AM   
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SPORTSMAN

1- Goldfish. From upright, push to a 45 degree down line. One positive snap. Pull ¾ inside loop to a 45 degree down line. ½ roll. Exit upright.
2- ½ Outside Loop. From upright, 2 of 4 to inverted. Push ½ outside loop. Exit upright.
3- Positive Spin. From upright, 1-½ positive spin. Pull 5/8 inside loop to a 45 degree up line. ½ roll. Exit upright.
4- Vertical Down Line. From upright, push to a vertical down line. ½ roll. Exit upright.
5- Humpty Bump. From upright, pull to a vertical up line. 2 of 8. Push half outside loop. ¾ roll on the vertical down line. Exit upright.
6- Half Cuban Eight. From upright, 2 point roll. Pull 5/8 inside loop to a 45 degree down line. 2 of 4. Exit upright.
7- Hammerhead. From upright, pull to a vertical up line. One roll. Hammerhead to a vertical down line. Exit upright.
8- Inside Loop. From upright, pull inside loop with one full roll at the top. Exit upright.
9- Teardrop. From upright, pull to a 45 degree up line. Pull 5/8 inside loop to a 45 degree down line.


Correction:

9 - Pull to 45 upline, Pull 5/8ths inside loop to VERTICAL downline, center 2 of 4 going down, pull to exit positive.

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10- Aerobatic Turn. From upright, 180 degree Aerobatic Turn. Exit upright.

Jason is this what you wanted
murry


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RE: 2007 Sportsman Known Discussion - 11/22/2006 3:52:56 AM   
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I hope you realize that was a joke.........


But it was a great way to make a couple of very important points. (or lose them if you do it wrong!!)

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