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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/24/2006 4:07:25 PM   
beefcake78


 

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I was reading your message as if you were nose-heavy, not tail heavy! That's why I suggested a lighter battery!

Goot luck with the maiden!

(beefie)-CaKe

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/24/2006 6:03:16 PM   
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So youput the LVC in between the battery and the ESC, then run a separate regulator / BEC for the electronics. I still would think most BL controllers are smart enough to figure out the dealio.

-CaKe


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It's not a brushless motor, or ESC.

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/24/2006 8:10:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Flew the Essence with the Rimfire and LiPo combo. Plenty of power for several climbs and gliding around. I'll change the dntal floss pull-pull to something without stretch and trya dn get the CG right. First flight with light battery had lots of porpoise action. Second flight with more weight in nose was much smoother--even caught some thermals. Little breezy today but I am encouraged with flight charecteristics.

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/25/2006 2:44:37 AM   
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The most effecient electrical setup is an inrunner with a gearbox but the most space effecient is an outrunner.

Alex

Right on the first count, but very debatable on the second Inrunner with planetary GB will fit a lot easier in the nose of a sailplane, especially one with a "spitzig nase" or pointy nose
Pete


Deutscher sprechen Sie. Gutes nicht so I. noch erlernendes "speak". Innrunner effecient da mehr. Outrunner weniger Raum nehmen meine auf. Getriebe stark mehr.

Beifall,

Alex


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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/25/2006 2:49:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Die inrunner vermutlich Durchläufe hotter! Ich wettete, daß ich ein outrunner zur flachen Nase meiner leichten Dame schnell anbringen kann.

CaKe

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/25/2006 11:12:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Can someone help this newbe out. Please explain the difference between a (Inrunner) and a (Outrunner) I hear it all the time and am not sure I understand it all together.
Thanks

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/25/2006 5:25:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Inrunner.. the shaft runs thru the motor body.. the body is mounted to the airframe and doesn't rotate. Prop and shaft rotate
Outrunner.. the shaft is fixed to the body, and both rotate around a mount fixed to the airframe. Prop, shaft and body rotate. A WWI rotary motor style, if you will.

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/25/2006 5:34:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pilotpete2

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ORIGINAL: SquirlNutZipper

The most effecient electrical setup is an inrunner with a gearbox but the most space effecient is an outrunner.

Alex

Right on the first count, but very debatable on the second Inrunner with planetary GB will fit a lot easier in the nose of a sailplane, especially one with a "spitzig nase" or pointy nose
Pete


Deutscher sprechen Sie. Gutes nicht so I. noch erlernendes "speak". Innrunner effecient da mehr. Outrunner weniger Raum nehmen meine auf. Getriebe stark mehr.

Beifall,

Alex



I think your grammar is a bit off.. could just be my bad german though.

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/25/2006 7:23:26 PM   
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OK, your Gentle lady has a flat nose , that does make it easier than trying to fit an outrunner in a fiberglass fuse
Pete


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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/26/2006 1:42:30 AM   
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But which one is the way to go???

-CaKe

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/26/2006 3:37:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sneasle

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ORIGINAL: SquirlNutZipper


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ORIGINAL: pilotpete2

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ORIGINAL: SquirlNutZipper

The most effecient electrical setup is an inrunner with a gearbox but the most space effecient is an outrunner.

Alex

Right on the first count, but very debatable on the second Inrunner with planetary GB will fit a lot easier in the nose of a sailplane, especially one with a "spitzig nase" or pointy nose
Pete


Deutscher sprechen Sie. Gutes nicht so I. noch erlernendes "speak". Innrunner effecient da mehr. Outrunner weniger Raum nehmen meine auf. Getriebe stark mehr.

Beifall,

Alex



I think your grammar is a bit off.. could just be my bad german though.


No you're right Sneasle. My friends get so frustrated they speak "American" english though even they have a few grammer issues it is better understood.

Alex


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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/26/2006 3:38:34 AM   
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Yes, I do beleive an outrunner is the way to go...

But which one is the way to go???

-CaKe



Yes an outrunner is the way to go for space and weight issues. Not to mention the torque needed for the larger folding props we like to use on sailplanes.

FYI an outrunner will deliver more torque directy. Just like a flywheel, an outrunner has more spinning mass which is better to move a larger prop. Inrunners need a gear reduction much like a single speed transmission in order to move the mass of a larger prop. It's kinda like HP vs. Torque.

I hope this helps.

Alex


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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/26/2006 3:50:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: beefcake78

Yes, I do beleive an outrunner is the way to go...

But which one is the way to go???

-CaKe



Yes an outrunner is the way to go for space and weight issues. Not to mention the torque needed for the larger folding props we like to use on sailplanes.

FYI an outrunner will deliver more torque directy. Just like a flywheel, an outrunner has more spinning mass which is better to move a larger prop. Inrunners need a gear reduction much like a single speed transmission in order to move the mass of a larger prop. It's kinda like HP vs. Torque.

I hope this helps.

Alex



I should have said "But which outrunner is the way to go?"

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/26/2006 4:29:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SquirlNutZipper

The most effecient electrical setup is an inrunner with a gearbox but the most space effecient is an outrunner.

Alex

Right on the first count, but very debatable on the second Inrunner with planetary GB will fit a lot easier in the nose of a sailplane, especially one with a "spitzig nase" or pointy nose
Pete


Deutscher sprechen Sie. Gutes nicht so I. noch erlernendes "speak". Innrunner effecient da mehr. Outrunner weniger Raum nehmen meine auf. Getriebe stark mehr.

Beifall,

Alex



I think your grammar is a bit off.. could just be my bad german though.


No you're right Sneasle. My friends get so frustrated they speak "American" english though even they have a few grammer issues it is better understood.

Alex



Say what?

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RE: Gentale Lady power - 10/26/2006 12:40:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm using the smallest Rimfire outrunner on the Essence, which is very similar to the Gentle Lady. With an 8X3.8 slow flier prop it climbs just fine. I would like to use a folding prop but can't figure out how to attach with the prop saver set up on this motor.

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