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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/21/2006 8:56:11 AM

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But not very much

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/21/2006 11:16:48 AM

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Weight spreadsheet..... this is on my website.... http://www.rcaerobats.net/GAS_ENGINE_WTS.htm
Perhaps helpful.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/21/2006 2:23:53 PM

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Welcome to "Club Brillelli"........ if there is ANYTHING we can do to help, don't hesitate to ask. Personally, I don't think you made a bad choice at all....mine REALLY likes the 23 x 8....

Yeh, I think I'm going to either try a Menz 23x8 or a Xoar 23x8 to start with...probably the Xoar since seem to be currently getting the most play for 3d. That should work right? I asked Scott and didn't really suggest a smaller "break-in" prop run but rather just get the prop you think your going to fly with. So I shouldn't get the LawnBoy ashless for the first few gallons....?they have that right at the Lowes so its actually probably the easiest to get of all these choices...if it won't hurt anything...I like "easy".

{duber3: Read Bob's spreadsheet and it should paint a b/w picture on the RTF weight of this motor to the G62 and the other choices you might be looking at.}

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/21/2006 4:56:26 PM

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But not very much

not surprising

Weight is weight and 4 or 6 oz is worth it to a lot of people or you wouldn't see people buying CF spinners, PSP Titianium axels, lipo batteries etc etc. IF I am going to pay 60 - 80 for a spinner to save 3 or 4 oz... going to pay 80 more for more weight savings in the engine.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/21/2006 10:19:56 PM

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quote:

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But not very much

not surprising

Weight is weight and 4 or 6 oz is worth it to a lot of people or you wouldn't see people buying CF spinners, PSP Titianium axels, lipo batteries etc etc. IF I am going to pay 60 - 80 for a spinner to save 3 or 4 oz... going to pay 80 more for more weight savings in the engine.

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I hope I never take any part of this hobby seriously enough to buy a CF spinner.

Some folks are so obsessed with certain aspects of life that I have actually seen them wax the paint off of their automobiles.

Light is good. But trying to nail that last 2% of perfection will suck the life out of the hobby and your wallet.

Fortunately, we still live in a somewhat free society that tolerates such extremes in behavior. Ralph's version of light is light enough for me. YMMV

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/21/2006 11:22:17 PM

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Ahh come to this thread as well to share that shining attitude

Well that's great and thanks for sharing your opinion...

Fact is some of us fly circles to enjoy a day... some of us take it more seriously and strive to get better at something they enjoy greatly. There is nothing wrong with a little bit of passion and if you take a pound off an airplane or more it's a night and day difference.

With your statements it's clear you dont fly pattern or IMAC.. and if you do you don't take it seriously and you probably don't fly 3D because if you did you would be concerned about weight as I am.

Fact is its a 6+ oz difference in these engines... for an $80 difference I will take the one that weighs less.. it's worth it to me and that's all that matters period.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/21/2006 11:38:05 PM

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Actually the prices are allmost dead even by the time you buy a muffler for the G62. Most won't use the tin can chainsaw muffler. So the only thing left is weight.

Bob, I just got to see some pics of that Extra

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/21/2006 11:41:50 PM

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Ahh come to this thread as well to share that shining attitude

Well that's great and thanks for sharing your opinion...

Fact is some of us fly circles to enjoy a day... some of us take it more seriously and strive to get better at something they enjoy greatly. There is nothing wrong with a little bit of passion and if you take a pound off an airplane or more it's a night and day difference.

With your statements it's clear you dont fly pattern or IMAC.. and if you do you don't take it seriously and you probably don't fly 3D because if you did you would be concerned about weight as I am.

Fact is its a 6+ oz difference in these engines... for an $80 difference I will take the one that weighs less.. it's worth it to me and that's all that matters period.

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Have you ever had one of those days that you can't type anything without ticking someone off? I wasn't giving anyone a shot. Just recommending that they moderate their passion. Even that will tick off someone, I'm sure.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/21/2006 11:51:40 PM

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well I guess my question would be why would you want someone to moderate their passion? If we did that we wouldn't have 3/4s of the great technology that we have today.

I have been flying since last June.. I have a huge passion for it. Out of 180 members at our club there is a handful who can fly at my skill level or better. I do not like being average at anything I do so that is my drive. If an extra $80 here and there helps me fly better (which is does) then its def. worth it to me.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/22/2006 3:08:49 AM

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60 number two now installed in AM Extra 260, 30%, and nearly ready to run, wx permitting. Mounted up real nice. I like the AM firewall being un-mounted; lets you get the spacing just like you need it. The standoffs pictured are "stock" from Scott. This motor has the Sholl ignition, mounted on the floor of the engine box behind the firewall, with ign. batt on inner side of box.

Better pics later; wore out wrestling with it today...

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/22/2006 3:23:16 AM

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When your flying 3d, every 1/2 lb off is like another difference of night and day. If your flying circles, then you may mean less to you. And just as crazy as it might seem to some to have all CF to save another lb in weight....I find it just as crazy to spend 4-5 weeks working on cockpit detail or mini machine guns on my plane....

so it will look more real.

Frankly...why? Its a toy airplane for goodness sakes...its not like a real plane and your getting ready to fly it to go fight WWII..

So its just different strokes for different fokes. I prefer trying to get my plane to do the "impossible".....and after I have figured out how to do the impossible...trying to see how close to the ground, I can do it without crashing it.

But a savings of 6-8 ounces...does give you the ability to add 6-8 ounces more cockpit detail, slats, spoilerons, retracted flaps, scale landing gear, multiple pilots, working bomb drops, working crop dusters, scale lighting, working brakes, smoke and other stuff you might want....

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/22/2006 3:26:05 AM

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What would be the standard fuel tank size that would say give you 12-14 minute flights with 5-6 minutes to spare on this motor? 20 ounces or do you need a 24 ounces tank?

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/22/2006 3:32:35 AM

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20 oz will DEFINITELY fit your requirement, no p