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Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/13/2006 3:57:15 PM

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I promised to start this, now that I have TWO of these great value motors in my house. 30% Yak and 30% Extra, both in the 17 lbs range, both use 23 x 8 props NX props.

As far as value, these represent probably the best "50 cc class" purchase out here today. And it's NOT a 50cc. Current price is $595, and that includes SHIPPING, *and* a custom-made side exhaust stock muffler that is a GOOD one. Also comes with an auto-advancing ignition that works very well. AND custom standoffs.

It's all up weight NOW is really on a par with MANY 50 cc motors, and you have the advantage of proven reliable carburetion and cylinders. (see http://www.rcaerobats.net/GAS_ENGINE_WTS.htm) Chain saw jugs are made to last a LONG time....Walbro carbs, too.

Those familiar with Scott's work know the care he takes with fit, finish, and machining. The 366GT represents his finest efforts to date, in my opinion, or I would NOT have TWO of them.

(Before ya'll get wound up - I am NOT sponsored, nor incentive-ized to endorse Brillelli. Truly.)

I will post some various pics of the newest one tonight/this weekend, and update my weights spreadsheet at www.rcaerobats.net

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/13/2006 4:29:47 PM

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ok, i'm here............anxious to hear how bad this thing's gonna be on a 17 lb plane.

should be a rocket or yard dart one.....LOL j/k

i'm betting it's gonna be G R E A T

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/13/2006 4:40:36 PM

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The current flying bird, the 30% Yak, is 17+ lbs TOW, add about 24oz or so for smoke/battery, etc. AT that weight, it has unlimited vertical, will easily pull out of a TR (or something that I do that looks as close to one as I can get) and is one smooth running, easy starting and predictable motor.

Put it this way - this same bird with THREE different flavors of 50cc-class motors was not NEARLY as good a performer as it is now. (Pic of the Yak on the ground is at the Brillelli website under "366GT Pics".)

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 3:36:50 AM

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I'm interested....
Can you give me some real-world RPM's on props that compare to say a DA50....

I've been researching it and right now....all I have found is the motor is 10cc bigger than a DA50, weighs about 5-6 ounces more when all up, and does about the same as a DA50 even pulling the same prop.

What other flavors of 50cc did you have on your plane?

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 4:07:23 AM

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No rpm figures for other motors, and I don't tach mine. I have used a BME 50, Taurus T-52; they worked well, but what I'm using now is better. I have no way to compare it to a DA 50, sorry.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 4:11:05 AM

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And a couple pics of my first 60 (in the Yak).

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 4:11:04 AM

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Bob...I notice that you specify an AUW on this motor as 72.2....where as Brillelli says the AUW is 68oz. Only 4 oz...but wondering what is comprising this 4 oz....????

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 4:12:56 AM

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His is his stock side muffler, mine is wrap around. That's it as far as I know....

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 4:13:40 AM

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Thanks for the pictures...

Those make the motor look alot better than the ones on the Brillelli website which kinda look like "prototypes".

Where do you get your muffler -- it looks better??

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 4:17:46 AM

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Scott made that one for me. He also has done custom wrap around, will do pics and post tomorrow, it's on the new motor. Same 10 oz, but nice compact wrap around.
I have s/n 2 and s/n 4. Not prototypes at all.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 4:29:57 PM

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3d:

The 60 is more powerfull then a DA 50 easily. It actually is within 100 rpms +/- a G-62.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 4:40:49 PM

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The best thing about a sideport engine is everything is up front where you can get at it.
I have had it with rear carb engines. I have three that sit in a drawer because of it.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 5:09:41 PM

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I agree, wholeheartedly, and I sold my rear intakes. Never looked back, or said "I wish I hadn't".... I have all up weights now....

Brillelli 60cc v.2
Bare engine, plug, prop bolt, washer, standoffs........ 58.4
Ignition..................................................................3.6

Sub total "bare motor"..............................................62
Brillelli Side Muffler (stock).........................................6

TOTAL MOTOR - RTR.................................................68

600mah batt/Hobbico switch......................................3.2

TOTAL RTF ounces..................................................71.2
TOTAL RTF lbs........................................................ 4.45
TOTAL RTF grams..................................................2018.5

These weights from #2, just received Friday.

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RE: Brillelli 366GT *60cc* - 10/15/2006 8:02:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sinergy

3d:

The 60 is more powerfull then a DA 50 easily. It actually is within 100 rpms +/- a G-62.

I would hope so....
but how much....??

I'm kinda surprised that folks are not flying a 24x8 on it with 10cc (20% larger displacement). It doesn't look to be more powerful that the MVVS58 (but that bad boy is HEAVY). I was reading a static thrust number of around 30 but I read earlier test results that showed the DA-50 getting between 28-32 lbs for static thrust measured/not calculated...so that would be equivalent to a DA50. My goal would be like 33-35lbs static thrust on a 16.5lbs model....looking for a little better than 2:1.

So this motor is basically a G62 reworked? Or I read a SACS (not sure what that is)? A conversion of a chainsaw engine with electronic ignition added? Excuse my ignorance.... Trying to come up to speed.

Also, I was reading about the the BMCA 62 engine....it kinda looks like that is the same concept if I'm reading correctly...but those are less expensive.... Slightly higher prop numbers but also another 2 or so ounces added weight as well....so pretty equivalent.

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