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aeroace mods - 10/19/2006 4:23:38 AM   
FERNDALE AIR FORCE


 

Posts: 5522
Joined: 5/11/2006
From: lost coast, CA, USA
Status: offline 		This is a new thread dedicated to aa mods. This thread is intended for mods only. For general questions and information please visit the air hogs aero ace thread. We will welcome you into the fold.

I am going to open with my most recent mods. But in the future I will endeavor to bring old, to me, mods to the fore front. The most basic mod is to remove the spars, or supports, between the wings. If you did that after your 5th flight, or earlier, you want to read this thread. I hope my friends will help populate this forum with mods. I do have one request from you, let us know if you're using the mod. We don't have to tell you anything, saying thank you costs you nothing. Tim


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RE: aeroace mods - 10/19/2006 4:47:47 AM   
FERNDALE AIR FORCE


 

Posts: 5522
Joined: 5/11/2006
From: lost coast, CA, USA
Status: offline 		Here are pics of my latest aero mods. These are based on the mono mod. To remove the lower wings start at either the front or back and slowly peel the wing off. It is held in place by soft glue. With the lower wing removed you'll find that the plane is faster, but less responsive. It will float it flight. In these pics I have taken plastic stir straws and anchored the wing to the body more securely. This is a somewhat harder plane to fly. For the mod with only 2 stir sticks the length of the stir stick is 3.25". For the double stir stick the lengths are 3 3/8 and 3 7/16 approx. The goal is to maintain the original wing angle. These planes are far more responsive than the bipe or the plain mono mod.

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RE: aeroace mods - 10/19/2006 5:16:53 AM   
micro_builder



Posts: 1052
Joined: 10/20/2005
From: corcoran, MN, USA
Status: offline 		updated as of 1/21/07

stats:
3 channels, A, B, C - 27mhz
130mah lipo
45mm counter rotating props

motors:
thrust 8-10g
5.3 ohm 6mm coreless
390mA draw per motor
6-10 ohm motors possible replacement

weight:
stock weight:
biplane 19.68g - monoplane 17.02g
breakdown:
receiver including antenna but w/o charging socket and switch 1.35 grams.
Motor with leads and prop weighs 1.83 grams
Cell weighs 3.8 grams
Fuselage pod 1.4 grams
Wing 3.42 grams
Stab/rudder 0.71 grams
Tailboom assy 1.8 grams
Motor mounts 0.42 grams

replacement parts:
lipo - 130mah-225mah range
motors - 4.5ohm-10ohm
foam - meat trays, insulating foam, foam dinner plates
props - Aero-X

upgrade/mod sites:
AA Toolbox - http://aatoolbox.no-ip.org/
AA RX parts - http://www.falcon1.net/~ars/rcmodels.html
Australia vendor - http://www.eagle-hobbies.com

AA group:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4540834/tm.htm

TX battery options:
2300mah Nimh rechargeables


electronic mods
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RX wiring diagram:
post #1451 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_59/key_/tm.htm
post #1603 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_65/key_/tm.htm
post #3192 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_128/key_/tm.htm

channel changing:
post #432 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_18/key_/tm.htm
post # 3558: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_143/key_/tm.htm

extending antenna:
post #450 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_18/key_/tm.htm
post # 520 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_21/key_/tm.htm

LEDs:
post #26 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm
post #106 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_5/key_/tm.htm
post #3136 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_126/key_/tm.htm
post #3196 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_128/key_/tm.htm
post #3684 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_148/key_/tm.htm
post #3940 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_158/key_/tm.htm
post #3975 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_159/key_/tm.htm

turn without throttle:
post #190 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_8/key_/tm.htm
post #391 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_16/key_/tm.htm
post #3558 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_143/key_/tm.htm

adding lipo connectors:
post #421 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_17/key_/tm.htm

lipo info:
post #2462 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_99/key_/tm.htm

solar power:
post #3202 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_129/key_/tm.htm


airframe mods:
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wing extentions:
post #26,#35 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm
post #419, #424 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_17/key_/tm.htm
post #1689 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_68/key_/tm.htm
post #2878, 2884 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_116/key_/tm.htm

easy motor adjustment:
post #1463, #1466 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_59/key_/tm.htm
post #2412 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_97/key_/tm.htm

moving the lipo/CG:
post #473, #475 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_19/key_/tm.htm
post #1371 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_55/key_/tm.htm

canard winglets:
post #1014 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_41/key_/tm.htm
post #1067 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_43/key_/tm.htm
post #1234 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_50/key_/tm.htm
post #2674 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_107/key_/tm.htm
post #2679 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_108/key_/tm.htm
post #3088, 3099 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_124/key_/tm.htm

no fuselage:
post #2900 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_116/key_/tm.htm

mid wing AA:
post #1091 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_44/key_/tm.htm

clipped lower wing:
post #1828 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_74/key_/tm.htm
post #2163 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_87/key_/tm.htm
post #2886 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_116/key_/tm.htm

AA Triplane:
post #395 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_16/key_/tm.htm
post #1119, #1120 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_45/key_/tm.htm

replacement tail feathers:
post #121 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_5/key_/tm.htm

W wing mod:
post #2038 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_82/key_/tm.htm
post #2078, #2079 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_84/key_/tm.htm

landing gear:
post #79, #86 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_4/key_/tm.htm
post #299 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_12/key_/tm.htm
post #339 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_14/key_/tm.htm
post #804 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_33/key_/tm.htm
post #841, #844 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_34/key_/tm.htm
post #1134 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_46/key_/tm.htm
post #1321, #1325 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_53/key_/tm.htm
post #1336 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_54/key_/tm.htm
post #1708 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_69/key_/tm.htm
post #2871 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_115/key_/tm.htm
post #2996 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_120/key_/tm.htm
post #3136 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_126/key_/tm.htm
post #3202 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_129/key_/tm.htm
post #3559, 3563 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_143/key_/tm.htm

pontoons:
post #2217 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_89/key_/tm.htm
post #2242, #2234 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_90/key_/tm.htm

AA single wing with AA Jet parts:
post #2670 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_107/key_/tm.htma

ribbon mod:
post # 3396 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_136/key_/tm.htm

lightweight AA:
post #3494 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_140/key_/tm.htm

pico-38:
post #2782 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_112/key_/tm.htm

shorter tail boom:
post #2695, 2698 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_108/key_/tm.htm

toothpic/stir stick mod:
post #2886 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_116/key_/tm.htm
post #2940 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_118/key_/tm.htm
post #2894 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_120/key_/tm.htm
post #3048 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_122/key_/tm.htm
post #3240 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_130/key_/tm.htm
post #3515 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_141/key_/tm.htm
post #3723 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_149/key_/tm.htm

round wings:
post #3809 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_153/key_/tm.htm


VARIOUS:
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prop puller:
post #864 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_35/key_/tm.htm
post #4035 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_162/key_/tm.htm

removing throttle spring:
post #496 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_20/key_/tm.htm
post #3002 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_121/key_/tm.htm

interior pics:
post #1357, #1369, #1370 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_55/key_/tm.htm
post #1648 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_66/key_/tm.htm
post #2744 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_110/key_/tm.htm

changing motors/props from pusher to puller:
post #129 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_6/key_/tm.htm

coin mod:
post #561 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_23/key_/tm.htm

CG locator:
post #2381 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_96/key_/tm.htm
post #2727 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_110/key_/tm.htm

easy trim knob adjustment:
post #3492 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_140/key_/tm.htm


DIY AA powered planes:
-----------------------
various AA powered planes and plans:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3773941/tm.htm

build your own AA powered plane:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4401704/tm.htm

white wings paper plane conversions:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4549324/tm.htm

AA gallery (please post your creations too!):
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5244036/tm.htm

AA slow flyer thread:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4447072/tm.htm

6" AA Cube:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4535280/tm.htm

post #103 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_5/key_/tm.htm
post #258 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_11/key_/tm.htm
post #287 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_12/key_/tm.htm
post #611 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_25/key_/tm.htm
post #627 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_26/key_/tm.htm
post #671 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_27/key_/tm.htm
post #831 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_34/key_/tm.htm
post #856, #859, #860, 863, 866 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_35/key_/tm.htm
post #979 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_40/key_/tm.htm
post #1011 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_41/key_/tm.htm
post #1093 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_44/key_/tm.htm
post #1118 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_45/key_/tm.htm
post #1140 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_46/key_/tm.htm
post #1284 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_52/key_/tm.htm
post #1475 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_59/key_/tm.htm
post #1672 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_67/key_/tm.htm
post #2240 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_90/key_/tm.htm
post #2401, #2414, #2415 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_97/key_/tm.htm
post #2432 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_98/key_/tm.htm
post #2493 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_100/key_/tm.htm
post #2516, 2519 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_101/key_/tm.htm
post #2549 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_102/key_/tm.htm
post #2552 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_103/key_/tm.htm
post #2561 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_103/key_/tm.htm
post #2568 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_103/key_/tm.htm
post #2647, 2649 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_106/key_/tm.htm
post #2663, 2664, 2666 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_107/key_/tm.htm
post #2771, 2773 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_111/key_/tm.htm
post #2898 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_116/key_/tm.htm
post #2977, 2982 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_120/key_/tm.htm
post #3042 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_122/key_/tm.htm
post #3070 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_123/key_/tm.htm
post #3109 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_125/key_/tm.htm
post #3197, 3198 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_128/key_/tm.htm
post #3215 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_129/key_/tm.htm
post #3226 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_130/key_/tm.htm
post #3318 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_133/key_/tm.htm
post #3333 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_134/key_/tm.htm
post #3371 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_135/key_/tm.htm
post #3389 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_136/key_/tm.htm
post #3564, 3570 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_143/key_/tm.htm
post #3579 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_144/key_/tm.htm
post #3629 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_146/key_/tm.htm
post #3688 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_148/key_/tm.htm
post #3711 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_149/key_/tm.htm
-post #3732, 3746 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_150/key_/tm.htm
post #3751, 3771, 3772 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_151/key_/tm.htm
post #3778, 3780, 3796, 3798 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_152/key_/tm.htm
post #3836, 3839 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_154/key_/tm.htm
post #3854, 3870 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_155/key_/tm.htm
post #3894 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_156/key_/tm.htm
post #3952, 3960 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_159/key_/tm.htm
post #3984, 3998 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_160/key_/tm.htm
post #4002 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_161/key_/tm.htm
post #4067 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_163/key_/tm.htm


other AA powered craft:
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airboat:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4334711/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4232934/tm.htm

hovercraft:
post #2236 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_90/key_/tm.htm

quad mod:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3968433/tm.htm
post #2298 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_92/key_/tm.htm
post #3107 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_125/key_/tm.htm

single motor + actuator
post #615 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_25/key_/tm.htm
post #2414 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_97/key_/tm.htm

3 channel AA
post # 1895 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3368184/mpage_76/key_/tm.htm

AA powered Tank:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4367803/tm.htm


updated 1/21/07
nick

< Message edited by Greg Covey -- 1/24/2007 11:06:39 PM >

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RE: aeroace mods - 10/19/2006 7:33:50 AM   
twostep


 

Posts: 376
Joined: 7/6/2004
From: toronto, ON, CANADA
Status: offline 		oh, i see how it is guys.. I dont get a 'shout out' for requesting this whole idea?!
lol, i think this is a long over-due thread.

Just the two of you have been more helpful than i can express. Micro, thanks for the links and the wiki. Fern, thanks for the suggestions. Hope the whole AHAA community is just as great. Your work and input is MUCH appreciated. If you need any help, just let me know.

This is GREAT.

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RE: aeroace mods - 10/19/2006 7:46:43 PM   
monstermaker13



Posts: 975
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Abilene, TX, USA
Status: offline 		nice job micro!!!!
you outdid youreself

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RE: aeroace mods - 10/19/2006 10:16:27 PM   
Patrick_W


 

Posts: 87
Joined: 10/2/2006
From: North Muskegon, MI, USA
Status: offline 		WOW!!!!!! ferd, twostep, micro builder.. anybody else.. you rock! this is a great thread! i looked over all the mods, there is some great stuff that i did not know about.. i think i spent money on balsa wood, glue, foam, and paper just looking at it! i am making a few planes to see how they work with AA electronics.. and just a question for you micro builder, how many micros do you have??!??

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RE: aeroace mods - 10/20/2006 3:15:06 AM   
FERNDALE AIR FORCE


 

Posts: 5522
Joined: 5/11/2006
From: lost coast, CA, USA
Status: offline 		Hi all, Micro builder has done an amazing job in one night. I assumed a longer time frame, because I would be doing the work and don't really know how to do it.

here is an update to an earlier mod that I posted. It is the half lower wing mod, post 1828. I refined that lower wing down to 1.25" from the fuse or body. Overall the wing will be in the 1 3/8 range. It should terminate halfway under the motor.


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RE: aeroace mods - 10/31/2006 1:13:59 AM   
klouche


 

Posts: 17
Joined: 6/30/2006
From: Granite Bay, CA, USA
Status: offline 		My goal was to build a plane that would fly at walking speed. To accomplish, I built a 4" by 34" balsa and tissue wing and stabilizer. I don't have an accurate scale, but I estimate AUW to be 23 grams. The estimator says 4.6 MPH speed for stable flight.

The reality is that this thing needs a dead calm day in an open field to test. Fotunately, here in N. Calif we have spectactular weather this time of year; warm, clear and calm; sometimes all day long but definately at sunrise/sunset. As you may suspect, turning is an issue. The thrust differential is not enough to turn in much less than a 50 foot radius. I have not, but will do the transmitter diode mod, since I have plenty of transmitters.

I attemped something similar with heavier Bass wood frame (I didn't know the difference) and components removed from older AAs. I fried three RX's before settling on this approach.

Kevin L

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RE: aeroace mods - 11/8/2006 2:49:11 AM   
clovus



Posts: 1720
Joined: 9/27/2004
From: B, AUSTRALIA
Status: online 		Micro builder,

We are truly indebted to you for all that work. Just what I was looking for. Sure beats wading through so much information. I 've just sucked in my brother-in-law into the AA world and hopefully onto more RC flying.

clovus

p.s My toon racer is still going strong. Thanks for the plans.

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(in reply to klouche)
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RE: aeroace mods - 1/21/2007 6:23:34 AM   
FERNDALE AIR FORCE