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Tool up the Factory for this one! - 10/30/2006 6:23:11 PM

Rube Goldberg

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I'm bored with all the CAPs, Extras, Yaks, etc.etc.! Nitro Models say they can tool up the factory in little time to put out a new model, depending of course on the demand......so Gentlemen, I give you, what I think is the most looked over/never see it modeled/fine looking aerobatic civilian aircraft....

The GLOBE SWIFT !

http://www.napanet.net/~arbeau/swift/model.htm

One of the "Swift Magic Team" members was a local pilot who passed away due to cancer a few years ago. Before that the "team" was a 3 aircraft routine. I see now that they are now a 2 aircraft team. I might inquire as to the whereabouts of the "retired" aircraft, if it is still local I might see if I can get some photos.

I should think the demand for an ARF Globe Swift would be really good......how about you guys? Say 60 size with retracts included? 1/4 scale? Start out with a small electric, say 400 size version? Here's a link to some plans that are available.

http://www.clevelandairline.com/ASP/PRODUCT.asp

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 10/30/2006 11:28:33 PM

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Nice thread

lets see who's gonna chip in with their thoughts

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 10/31/2006 12:19:04 AM

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I love the Globe Swift! One of my all time favorite civilian planes.

Oh, there are lots more too! But if you make a Swift I am down for one!!

PS: It has retractable landing gear!

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 10/31/2006 12:44:51 AM

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No offense here but my gut reaction is... another cherokee uhm that's uhm well... Ooh look over there, is that a Bill Hempil?

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 10/31/2006 5:54:50 AM

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Cherokee?? Yes, it is a low wing configuration and it is a civilian aircraft, but thats about all I can think of when comparing a Swift to a Cherokee. Totally different airplane!

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 10/31/2006 2:12:06 PM

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Swift is a tail dragger and has a cool rounded rudder. Two things that are definately better than the Cherokee IMO. But neither plane is apealing to me as an R/C consumer, not that others would not like them.

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 11/1/2006 3:03:45 PM

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I've found a pretty nice set of plans for a 20" span rubber model, published in 1947 here:

http://www.theplanpage.com/esp/swift.htm

The plans are downloadable as a .tiff image, can be opened in Windows picture viewer, saved as a .jpg and then inserted into CAD as a raster image where they can be scaled and plotted on the 36" HP plotter

I found the specs of the "real" Swift and plotted a 1/8 scale set of plans. Looks like a fairly simple build.....and the size is comparable to the electric Mini Pulse XT and slightly larger than the Parkzone P-51 (that with the stock Parkzone motor/gearbox and a 2100 Thunder Power Lipo was a MISSLE!). I should think the Park 450 would handle this one no problem.

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 11/15/2006 9:33:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rube Goldberg

One of the "Swift Magic Team" members was a local pilot who passed away due to cancer a few years ago. Before that the "team" was a 3 aircraft routine. I see now that they are now a 2 aircraft team. I might inquire as to the whereabouts of the "retired" aircraft, if it is still local I might see if I can get some photos.

I was lucky enough to ride with the late "Porch-Dog" a couple of times in his Swift. I've also ridden with one of the surviving members, Mike Kennedy. The Swift is a wonderful airplane and I hope to someday inherit one of my father's two.

JMD Models used to sell a 1/4 scale Swift many years back but discontinued it. More recently they had a small electric park-flyer-ish version that included retract, but that has been discontinued as well. Either not enough demand or not very well marketed.

Robart's still offers scale retracts that were designed for JMD's 1/4 scale version for a whopping $416!

I would love to build a 1/4 scale or larger someday and use the 4-cylinder OS Pegasus engine. Wouldn't that be something?

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 11/17/2006 6:37:39 AM

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A 150+ something "look see's" and so few comments? Well, I've taken it upon myself to go ahead and build a prototype from the 1947 plans, scaled up a bit. Right at 35" wingspan; fuselage is built of 1/4" X 1/8" spruce used for the upper and lower keels, side keels are 1/4" X 1/8" balsa, all stringers are 1/8" square spruce. Formers are 1/8" light ply. 4~5/16" dowels on 25mm centers for the electric motor mount (E-Flite 450 is planned power), front nose piece made of two plys of balsa cut out on the backside for the motor to turn in. The balsa nose secures to the first former (the motor will be spinning through this former) via a pair of 4-40 screws into blind nuts on the backside of the first former. Vertical fin and rudder 3/32" balsa, horizontal stab all 1/8" X 1/4" balsa. Wing uses ribs cut from 3/32" balsa, 1/4" X 1/2" spruce for main and forward spar, tip is 1/4" balsa, leading edge 1/4" X 1/2" balsa.
As of theses photos, the fuselage + tail feathers weighs in at 5 ounces. The one wing weighs all of 1 1/2 ounces.

Weigh in on the topic! Would you like to see a Globe Swift ARF?!

"Building instructions" are 8 1/2" X 11", and thats the Gee Bee 120 for scale.

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 11/17/2006 2:04:26 PM

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Look,,I'm for anything scale that is not a Extra,,Cap,,Edge,,Insert name of quick snapping Aerobat here.
A dime a dozen,,popular yeah! But there just so damm many of the that they all blend together.
A scale swift or Luscombe would be real nice and would stand out at the local field. I've been flying a Kankge 1/4 scale Monocoupe for 2 seasons and not a single day goes by that I don't get positve feed back on that plane.

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 11/22/2006 5:11:31 PM

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It's the kids. They all want to be 3D heros. That's why there are so many Caps, Edges, Yak's.

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 1/12/2007 6:28:59 AM

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Fokker DR1.....Hmmphhhhh!

(Ok, it DOES look nice!)

Well, the little Globe Swift is done enough for flight testing. All up ready to fly weight is 22 ounces, and I swapped the Park 450 out of the Ultimate to give her a go.

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 1/12/2007 6:39:41 AM

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I'd go for one if it was the sliding canopy ala "Swift Magic" .60 two stroke/ .91 four stroke size with retracts...... Saw them at an airshow a couple of years ago...great looking airplane.

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RE: Tool up the Factory for this one! - 1/19/2007 11:45:54 PM