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Joined: 4/3/2006 From: bayard,
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Look what I ran into http://www.raidentech.com/newbe63dz4dr.html I was wondering if it was any good and by the way, Ive got a brushless 400 motor and esc layin around and just the right Li-po. Man this thing looks awesome! Please let me know anything about this heli. Thanks, Alex
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Sometimes these Chinese helicopters work ok most of the time they don't. It is just another walkera. The helis fly ok if a decent radio system is installed and can be a lot of fun. The quality control is not known to be good. Kinda like a crap shoot.
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I just read all of the specs on this "new" raptor and I think (less of) your money would be much better spent on a df60b or df60c. It's only 10mm shorter in length, same weight and same belt drive system. The 60's frame and motor mount are metal instead of plastic (not to mention metal head and tail assembly) and you can buy them already built with brushless motor and matching ESC if you shop around.
60#C (1). Main Rotor Diameter: 620 mm (2). Tail Rotor Diameter: 145 mm (3). Overall Length: 600 mm (4). Receiver: RX- PCM-701 (5). Drive System: 380 PH (6). Battery: Ni-MH 12V 650mAh (7). All-up Weight: 570~620g (Battery included) (8). Transmitter: WK-PCM-0701 (9). Gyro: WK-G007 (10).Speed Controller: WTS-20A-02 Servo: weight 8.5g / speed 0.11sec/60°/ torque 0.9kg/cm / dimension 22.5X11.5X24mm (11). RX: RX-701 (12). Metal head and tail assembly. http://www.walkera.com/en/pro_particular.jsp?la=en&pro_number=Z360%23C0104
Raptor specs: Main Rotor Diameter: 630 MM 24.8 inch Tail Rotor Diameter: 145 MM 5.7 inch Overall Length: 610 MM 24 inch Overall Height: 195 MM 7.7 inch All-up Weight: 580g (battery included) 20 ounce Battery: Ni-MH 12V 650 mAh Power: 380SD carbon brush motor Servo: 4 x 9g Pitch Control: rubber, alieron, elevator and throttle, 3D conversion and alterable pitch system Radio System: 6 Channel FM 72Mhz, include a pair of interchangeable crystal Charger: Quick 110V wall charger
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Joined: 4/3/2006 From: bayard,
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I've always been anti-walkera but are these different, because most walkeras are known to have cruddy servos, motors, and are very poorly built.Ive heard that some people cant even get walkeras off the ground because of all sorts of defects. What is it going to be like getting parts, I really dont want to pay shipping from china. Not to mention but those walkeras are extremely ugly . But you said that this Raptor is chinese made, If thats the case then it would probably be the same quality as the walkeras.
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ORIGINAL: alex k
I've always been anti-walkera but are these different, because most walkeras are known to have cruddy servos, motors, and are very poorly built.Ive heard that some people cant even get walkeras off the ground because of all sorts of defects. What is it going to be like getting parts, I really dont want to pay shipping from china. Not to mention but those walkeras are extremely ugly . But you said that this Raptor is chinese made, If thats the case then it would probably be the same quality as the walkeras.
80% of all the helicopters out there are probably made in China, not just the Walkera ones. Where the model is designed and produced is not a good indication of quality .
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Ya, I dont wanna replace electronics at all, except for motor and battery. The remote looks crappy, but isnt quality crappy, I have one just like it for one of my other helis. Is there anybody out there who has one of these?
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Alex K,
I've purchased the Raptor G2 a few months ago, it's okay. It's easier to fly than the Blade CP, but will never be a T-Rex. The stock battery, you may as well throw away, it's a Ni-Mh 650 mAh battery. States that it will give you 10 minutes of flight time. No way, you'll be lucky to get it off the ground for 30 seconds. And the included charger takes 2 hours to charge the battery.
First thing I did was to convert to Deans Connectors and put in a 1300 mAh lipo battery. Does okay now, with the stock motor. Before spending the money on the ESC and brushless. Fly it for awhile and see if it's worth the added investment.
Guess I'm lucky, haven't had any problems with the electronics(yet), servos and Rx stuff.
The main frame, rotor, tail assembly all really seem pretty well built.
See pics of the Deans mod and Tx.
Dave / Choppersrule
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Can you please give me the link to that discussion if you can? Choppersrule, can you please let me know if this thing is any good 3-d wise, and how you would rate the motor. And another thing, choppersrule, you have a Falcon CP right, how would you compare it to the Raptor with a li-po and brshless.
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Joined: 1/6/2005 From: slidell,
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Its just a Walkera 36 painted up pretty, i've owned one before. I purchased the 36 bare bones kit straight from china just to see what it was like, with the Walkera 3200kv brushless motor and 25amp esc. it was pretty agile. ( Flew like my t-rex) No Problems!! Don't get me wrong the quality is a little lower but its not bad. WARNING DO NOT USE ANY OTHER WALKERA ELECTRONICS, ONLY THE MOTOR OR YOU WILL GET BURNED!!!! I'm not new to heli's in any way, 14 years experience. I've been around and experimented with alot of them so do yourself a favor and buy a good tx. set and go from there! Walkera tx. have a two second delay. Google Walkera delay and read about it.
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Alex,
I'm going to agree with evlfkr, the Raptor G2, is a fancy name and a fancy paint job. A 36 that looks cool. I've been real luck so far with the electronic, but when they start going bad, they will be replaced. I have a pretty good DX6 tx for my Trex. Not the best, I'm building my collection as budget permits. By next spring, I should have save enough to get the good stuff. You have to realized that the G2 is under $200, RTF. You really can't expect it to be the quality of the T-Rex or a MX. You can just feel the difference between the two, not just flying but handling them. The T-Rex is much better. Also, more costly. Here's a couple pics to see the difference. The T-Rex is somewhat bigger. But look at that cool yellow one.
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. But you said that this Raptor is chinese made, If thats the case then it would probably be the same quality as the walkeras.
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