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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/10/2009 11:27 PM

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hey im new here and i just ordered a 12vdc EL wire kit and i have no idea how its going to hook up to my spitfire , im assuming i would need the xport for this , but the inverter i ordered has no connector to the plane of any kind , just wires with no connector

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/11/2009 7:02 AM

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Welcome, guiltyspark!

I had to look up what a 12vdc EL wire kit is, its some kind of lighting kit that plugs into the receiver, right?

If it needs the xport plug in you may have problems using that, I can't imagine soldering the socket on that!
Unless you know different Madweb, Taran or Sinai?? Never been involved with them, unfortunately.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/11/2009 5:15 PM

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Welcome, guiltyspark!

I had to look up what a 12vdc EL wire kit is, its some kind of lighting kit that plugs into the receiver, right?

If it needs the xport plug in you may have problems using that, I can't imagine soldering the socket on that!
Unless you know different Madweb, Taran or Sinai?? Never been involved with them, unfortunately.

Wingco

well i dont NEED it to go to the xport , it would be nice if i could so i could use the button.

but plugging it in to the reciever would be great too , its just that it didnt come with a plug , and i dont know what the type of plug i need is and how to attatch the wires to it.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/12/2009 9:41 PM

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I have no idea how to do that. Your receiver has up to 6 channels but your Tx doesn't have that many commands that i know of . . . good luck. Lights on a spitfire? Cool.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/14/2009 3:35 AM

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I am a new spitfire owner, and a new flyer...period - novice knowledge on modifications, etc.... I've got the handle of her and am considering to upgrade to brushless sometime soon. Any recommendations for a simple mod to brushless, I have 3S 2200 mAh Lipo's already. I really like the hobbycity TowerPro Combos that include the ESC and Prop, but have no idea how to pick one out that fits the stock equip (with confidence). Can anyone offer some help?

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/14/2009 4:14 PM

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Hello master-crasher, welcome to the club! (although its not a name that inspires confidence!!)

I have a PZ spit and tried several mods before I settled on what I reckon is probably the best available, although its not that straightforward its well worth the effort.

For the record:
First of all, you will have to reinforce your wings, if you're going to increase the airspeed the stock items can and will fold, even on level flight! I did this (it really is much more simple that it sounds) by getting a couple of strips of carbon fibre from the Hobby Shop, they come in about 1cm flat strips. Cut thin slots underneath each wing with a model knife behind the aileron control cables out from the centre wing (beneath the skid pan) to where the control cable starts to curve towards the aileron. Cut the carbon fibre strips to length, coat in 5 minute epoxy and slot in edgeways (do try them for size first!), make sure they're tucked in neatly and below the wing surface. Wipe away residue.

OK, next I found a brushless inrunner called an eflm 2006 thats almost the same size as the stock motor but a hairs breadth wider, so if you rout out the lip on the inside of the gearbox where the stock motor sits the brushless will slot in and mount exactly the same. Next, a 45amp esc is needed hooked up to a futaba rx. and the result is pretty stunning. Had to get an uprated prop as well, same size but much more rigid as the stock item started to vee and couldnt take the increase in wellie. Now it will easily run 11.1 mah 2500's and if held nose skywards at launch and given full throttle, will climb vertically out of my hand and continue climbing until its out of sight. Not as fast as some conversions but boy is there plenty of torque! There are simpler options, but I've compared this one to various others and whilst the brushless outrunners are quicker on the level they tend to run out of puff in steep climbs,
hope that helps, keep asking on this thread, there are good people here who've done this and may offer simpler solutions.
Sinai? Madweb? Taran? Where are you?
Wingco

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/14/2009 9:59 PM

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Just a stock flyer on Lipo here. I'm learning from what I read as well.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/15/2009 2:44 AM

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ACHTUNG! Yes! I have just finished ordering a German Messerschmitt Bf-109G!

Yes! I will be the Hun in the sun looking down on any hapless Spitfire that dares to invade the fatherland! Check out the next url, bitta (please in German, but I am a little rusty on the spelling of that word since my tour of duty that allowed me the privilege of flying control-line combat over Germany).

Bf-109G
http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZ4980

Sorry about my absence from the thread. It was hard on me to stay away as I completed my latest clandestine mission. I will do some research and try to respond to some of the most recent questions.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/15/2009 3:43 PM

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Master crasher,

Welcome! Glad to have you with us.
These are a great bunch of guys here. Feel free to join in the fun.

Also, we love flight reports!
So don't be shy about posting your outings and details.

Cheers!

Mitch.

Hey Mad,

Cant wait to hear how the 109 flies.
Thanks for the news.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/16/2009 12:04 AM

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Wingco & Taran - With regard to flight reports, let's just say I've earned my name. The first skill I needed to master (spit was a bit advanced for first plane) was to throttle down and brace myself for impact! To catch you up, I've gone through 2 fuselages and 2 wings, and have have spent five-times longer repairing it than flying it - and this is no fault of the plain. But, the pain has paid off. After about 2 months (and 2 much money) I am now doing barrel rolls, flying 10 ft from ground, and not crashing...much.

Now, to my problem. I have upgraded to 3S 2200 mAh lipo's, and wow, she's a new plane. but, the stock motor is xtremely hot after flight and it is busting out of the motor mount on any bumpy landing. It seems like an outrunner with reinforcements is appropriate given the mount issues I'm having (though they are prob caused in part by the heat). I just need to minimize further investments in this thing - my Marriage may depend on that!

Well, I have to run already, again, marriage depends on it. I'll check back to see if there are any new recommendations, links to motors would be great!

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/16/2009 2:52 AM

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crash, may I also offer my warmest welcome to this fun thread. The next url brings up information you might be looking for.
Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4949251/mpage_2/tm.htm

Given my objectives to enjoy a "safe" margin for "realistic aerobatics" performance I have found that LiPos up to 1500mAh can be used very effectively by simply using the increased efficiency of APC props that I explain in detail on my clarified and updated "CALL TO GLORY" web site.
CALL TO GLORY!
http://community-2.webtv.net/RICHARDPORTER4/CALLTOGLORY/page3.html
My Spitfire flies as well or better for my purposes as my new GUNFIGHTER that I also love dearly.

spark, warmest welcome also. I spent a lot of time trying to find information that you might find useful on this thread. I never found exactly what I thought was available. "hyperline" on post #
634 of this thread has/had some interesting stuff my machine would not now bring up, but you might want to check it out and maybe send him a PM if he is still around.

Sinai, to answer your question on the 109 thread, I put my order in with the hobby shop for a 109, two spare three bladed props, and a spinner to enable two bladed props to be used.

Wingco and Taran, the SitRep on post # 29 of the "Yellow Brick Club" (name inspired by HEMICUDA) explains my AWOL on this thread. Please don't bust me back again. I promise to try to do better! At least let me keep my wings!

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/17/2009 8:13 AM

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No probs Madweb,
if you're breaking new ground and it has wings it ok by me, no maddah vot bludsirsty diktatorship it may be reprezenting (ha!) Just looked at that 109, very good looking number. I feel that I may to invest in one myself, even if only to have the 'old squadron tie and and handlebar moustache club' over here in Blighty go purple and shake their fist at it occasionally.
Master-crasher, you shouldn't be getting that much motor heat from an 11.1v lipoly, the 2200mah refers (as you probably know) to the storage capacity of the battery, ie the flying time that you get out of it, if the motors getting hot enough to melt mountings then something else is out of kilter. Those gearboxes are horribly exposed to any manhandling or sharp impacts, I have been there and experienced the shattered cowling and broken mounts (aren't those exhausts a test of patience and steady hand to get back in place?) more times than I care to remember.
OK, onto weekend flight report:
Saturday proved to be a bit touch and go on the wind front, gusting to 20mph which is more than I care to risk with the Hangar 9 spit, but as we were at the 'strip, Wingman and I decided to go ahead. You really think we'd know better by now, wouldnt you?
First flight out was me, take off fine, flight ok but a bit bumpy, but final approach was however a real battle, the wind was rolling like surf across the strip that periodically pushed the plane down, which at the low speeds needed for finals proved 'interesting'. I managed a hairy and over long bounce or two, but rolled to a stop with no damage and explained to wingman what the atmospheric isses were. A flight later and an equally tense final approach ended in Wingmans P51 scooting across the strip on its nose, tail high in ther air. That set a precendent; the next two landings for each of us resulted in the same ending. The last one made Wingman so mad so mad that he went round again to get it right and 'clear the karma' and ended in a longer nose over across the strip. Pack up and go home.
Next day beautifully still, so back to strip to get it right and we did. Perfect three point landings every time. We did discover that despite Wingmans P51 having the same set up as my Spit (eflite 60's 120amp esc, 6 cell 22.2v lipoly) the Spit is way faster than the P51 and will climb faster and do much higher loops. Why should this be? We have no idea.
Anyway, a further six successful sorties chalked up on the spit over the weekend (total now 31), no damage apart from a scuffed spinner. I can also report that the replacement 45amp esc turned up for the PZ spit, that should received its Cert. of Airworthyness at some stage this week and will be back in the air next weekend.
Roger and out
Wingco.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/17/2009 7:24 PM

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Vonderbar Wingco! Dine post is grossa! Please pardon the spelling but my spellchecker just isn't up to the task for German words.

You really are able to make it feel like being there in Merry 'ol England! I can't explain it but you really do have a unique effect on me with your way with words.

There is a post on this thread written by "aviator" that makes some interesting observations about the PZ Spit and the original PZ FF P-51 that might provide some useful comparisons to your H9 ships that you might like to check out and comment on. I suspect weight differences might be the factor in air speed differences. Let me know what you figure out.

I have another very dear British friend that I would like to introduce to you and this thread. He's about my age and is really busy with his evangelism work there and in Africa, but I believe he would not only thoroughly enjoy this thread but he just might find our approach to modeling irresistible for himself and maybe even some of his close associates. Wouldn't it be great if there were suddenly too many fun loving modeling enthusiasts to possibly keep up with! NOT TO WORRY - THE ENEMY WOULD NEVER ALLOW SUCH A REVOLTING DEVELOPMENT! But, it could happen in the not too distant future once the "powers that be" begin to realize that they will be able to enjoy even more power once they get the good guys on their side.

Okay, enough dreaming, back to winning the war - I predict that the new stock PZ 109's thrust to weight ratio will be equal to or better than that of the stock GUNFIGHTER P-51. If this is the case, and I am convinced that it is, like my slightly modified F4U, the Messerschmitt should have the capability to fly every maneuver I could ever want and then some, even with landing gear hanging out in the breeze.

Speaking of landing gear, it is so nice to be able to "cheat" by bending the gear further forward to enable easier landings that my favorite "maneuver" with my beautiful new 109 may very well turn out to be touch and go landings. I am especially excited about the working flaps that could make all of this just too neat for words! Given the fact that 11,000, or fully 1/3 of all 109s ever produced crashed on takeoff or landings, what a satisfying experience it will be to tame this terrifying weapon!

PZ YOU HAVE SURELY DONE IT RIGHT AGAIN! YOU MUST SLOW DOWN, I AM FAST RUNNING OUT OF HANGER SPACE!

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/17/2009 9:57 PM

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Okay, enough dreaming, back to winning the war - I predict that the new stock PZ 109's thrust to weight ratio will be equal to or better than that of the stock GUNFIGHTER P-51. If this is the case, and I am convinced that it is, like my slightly modified F4U, the Messerschmitt should have the capability to fly every maneuver I could ever want and then some, even with landing gear hanging out in the breeze.

Speaking of landing gear, it is so nice to be able to ''cheat'' by bending the gear further forward to enable easier landings that my favorite ''maneuver'' with my beautiful new 109 may very well turn out to be touch and go landings. I am especially excited about the working flaps that could make all of this just too neat for words! Given the fact that 11,000, or fully 1/3 of all 109s ever produced crashed on takeoff or landings, what a satisfying experience it will be to tame this terrifying weapon!

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Speaking of landing gear, and the unfavorable statics of the 109's crashes on takeoff/landings, Do you think that the landing gear might rip off in a bad grass landing? Is it Wire with facade over it like the Super Cub's gear (where you can bend it back) or is it more like the Corsair (where you can bust it out of the wing on a nose down landing)? I really want to get my Dad one but for this one concern - the integrity of the landing gear within it's mounting place. Are they removable? Can it belly land? I've seen bad results on the Corsair in grass.

His favorite plane to date was his PZ Spitfire until he crashed into a tree upon misjudging his distance from it in a turn. Now i want to know more about the landing gear on the 109 before I buy....

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/18/2009 11:46 AM

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Tally ho chaps!
The ME109 did indeed have a poor record of ground movements, due to the narrow splayed undercart and poor visibility over the nose, I'm told even worse than a spit due to the whole one piece canopy being hinged along one side. The format for the spit was that the canopy had to be open for take off and landing for safety and visibility, so the pilot was able to stick his head out and see past the nose achieved by simply sliding back the centre section, obviously an impossible task for the ME pilot so they had to taxi locked in.
I really do like the idea of having one of those, I think it would provoke some interesting reactions....hmmm, as long as its appearance doesnt send elderly ex army types over here leaping into ditches before they can stop themselves!! (I can see the reaction now as I'm gently helping their mud spattered form back out: "Bloody outrage, man! We cleared the sky of them in '41, what the hell are they doing back? Huh? Damned tolerent society, should all be flogged, not in my day.. etc etc etc")

Hangar 9 report:
Wingmans lack of comparable power on his P51 turned out to be the big eflite brushless slowly eating itself. Very close inspection to the eflite 60 revealed rather a lot of filings attached to the magnets, these were traced to an area of sloppy movement at the front end which meant the static motor core contacted the rotating outer, although not firmly, at considerable speed. Replacement needed asap lest there be grounded time next Saturday.
So we shall be experimenting with a brushless manufacturer over here called Purple Power. If large scale experiments go well, I shall look at smaller items initially with a view to replacing the PZ spits powerplant. Guys, check out the website and most importantly, look at the amp draw of the brushless motors on offer and compare that and their power output (Kw) to similar big brand competitors. They look pretty good to me, and I can say that George who runs the outfit is smack on with deliveries (ordered a couple of big props online one Thursday afternoon and they arrived at my house first thing Friday!)
Over and out
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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/23/2009 2:29 AM

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YES! TALLY HO!

With the sky becoming black with Maltese crosses sooner than later, I've had to discipline myself again to prepare my SPAD for a possible scramble at the outbreak of hostilities. The idea of being destroyed in the hanger with no chance to fight is unthinkable. So, the discipline needed to stay away from the web and/or the flying field did provide some useful time to think about some fun things to discuss.

First, the Messerschmitt - the PZ 109 seems to have adequately large wheels for use on the "average" soccer field and any structural needs can surely be added to keep the gear functional. My slightly modified Corsair landing system works really well with the 2.5 and 2.75 inch diameter wheels that I am using. Unlike my F4U that has a light fake tail wheel and "landing hook" that only functions to keep the tail from rubbing the ground, I suspect the stock 109 will come with the power needed to fly nicely even with the "heavy" stock tail wheel system. Other than using my "standard" carbon fiber reinforcement modifications and carefully balancing the prop, I suspect very few other mods will be needed for my purposes.

Sinai, you might temporarily try a PZ P-51 with your Dad until a new brushless Spit becomes available. I guarantee he will love it! Assuming the P-51 remains the diving sound champion it will continue to be my first line fighter demonstrator.

Wingco, that is some motor trouble on the H9 ship. Could that problem have developed from an out of balance prop, or a bent shaft? In addition to carefully balancing my props, I always "butter up" my bearings with super penetrating, super film strength, super slippery, synthetic AMSOIL lube.

Fascinating take off information about Spits and 109s. I used to think that the 109's gear was too far forward in addition to being too narrow. Spits never had the kind of problems that plagued the 109, right?

Yes, those pink brushless motors definitely seem to be hotter than anything else around. Keep us posted on your observations.

A lot of good weather has gotten away while I have been working on my new "crash survivable" SPAD. Although I hope it is never tested, any future crash should be be repairable with the extra ounce or so of carbon fiber reinforced structure.

NEXT WEEK I FLY AT ALL COSTS!!!

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/24/2009 9:43 PM

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Roger that.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/25/2009 6:58 AM

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Sinai, thanks for your continual enthusiasm. When I read back through this thread trying to find information for a new Spitfire enthusiast there you are enjoying Spits over a year ago.

Wingco, I finally successfully flew one of your large loops using a new 3 cell 1250mAh 25c LiPo at significantly less than full throttle. Big loops that slow near the top are impressive. I also like to fly slow rolls without dropping out of the sky too much. The P-51 started a very nice square loop from level flight at full throttle today. The secret for me is to make that first turn smoothly and flying straight up with little control input. I tend to get out of plane when flying through the corners, but I can usually get recognizable maneuvers eventually. Sometimes I need two or three attempts especially when trying to fly rolls on the flat sides.

My developing demonstration routine with fighters is to perform a maneuver followed by a victory roll. Square and triangle loops followed by rolls are practical even in some wind. In calm weather flying in the past, rolls on the flat sides have proven to be very practical, not so in windy weather for me yet. The 51 flew significantly differently with the extra power of a new 25c LiPo today.

I tried a dead stick dive with my new SPAD in hopes that the added "spider wire" bracing might provide some desirable sounds, but no dice. Its big 11 inch SF prop is like a big speed break. When I throttled up a little too fast after pulling out of the dive before flying a victory roll that tip stalling tendency was very evident. I must learn to be much more careful about throttling up when flying at slow speed or I will surely crash again.

Its good to see that Britain's real experiences with Messerschmitts hasn't left a negative impression about the ship on you. I'll bet there are some who really could have a negative reactions. Years ago, I ran into a man who couldn't stand my tiger shark mouth airplane because of a friend who was killed flying a mean mouth P-40. We don't want you to get in any trouble with any of the local chaps, now.

I had absolutely no idea whatsoever that PZ was coming out with the 109 back when we were having fun talking about it. Just today I noticed those bulges near the cockpit that helps convey the impression of a viscous snarling creature with an attitude.

I can't wait to own my very own killer 109!

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/27/2009 5:35 AM

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http://www.warbirddepot.com/photo_fighters.asp

Feast your eyes on this site too.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/27/2009 8:59 AM

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Oh dear oh lord!
How am I supposed to work now? If I could come up with a collective noun for warbirds I would....a 'dazzle' of warbirds? a 'goosebump' of warbirds....a 'fever' of warbirds? Utterly beautiful.
I note with interest that there are a couple of shots of a Hawker Fury and Hawker Hart (the biplanes) which takes me right back distant days watching one at an air display. They were powererd by the Rolls Royce Kestrel engine that was as loud and fabulous as the merlin and those biplanes planes were pretty fast.
They look like they're puttering along, but they were just as impressive and noisy as the spits and hurricanes that came just after them. Lovely shots.
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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/28/2009 7:29 AM

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Great pictures! I have the site stored in two different files for future use, thanks Sinai.

In the latest contest between the GUNFIGHTER and the SPAD this week, the SPAD won! Turns out that I had removed some ballast from the P-51's right wing for some reason that I can't remember. The mistake caused the Mustang to roll out of outside loops at around 10 o'clock. By applying opposite aileron I was finally able to fly a complete outside loop.

Once fine tuned the Spad can be fun and interesting to fly. The 51 is such a relaxing pleasure to fly after the stress inducing experience (at the moment) of once again flying a SPAD. The trauma of destroying my last one is what stresses me out while flying the new one. I will get over it eventually.

A rematch between the two machines should show them to be fairly well matched in mild weather aerobatics.

Wingco, at the last Blue Angels airshow I attended a biplane performed that absolutely looked like it was going to fall out of the sky during its very slow maneuvers. It really made me nervous.

Let's hear about some other CAP reports. I can't possibly be the only one having fun out here.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 8/31/2009 7:10 AM

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Just finished updating "AMERICA'S ACE" page: http://community-2.webtv.net/RICHARDPORTER4/CALLTOGLORY/page5.html

The "Spider Wire" rigging is so cool on the SPAD that I could not resist rigging the Sopwith Camel also! Guess what? I was able to rig the entire wing with only one (1) strand of Spider Wire. When I am satisfied that the tension on all sections of the rigging is good I will then glue all connections on the six "X's" for maximum structural integrity.

I hope to test fly at least three aircraft this coming week. It would also be very nice if the hobby shop would call and tell me to come and pick up my Messerschmitt.

The problem that I am facing now is that tactical circumstances have arisen requiring me to become involved in yet another secret reconnaissance mission that will require almost complete radio silence. I will try to at least include some cryptic SitReps to help with reconnoitering activities. D-day will come near the end of the week.

Over and out.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 9/1/2009 8:52 AM

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Madweb, Sinai, Taran,
quick check in: Saturday provided what Wingman and I reckon to be the best flying day yet, with perfect conditions with a steady 6mph straight down the runway, enabling long low passes, wingtip turns and perfectly controlled full flap decents to 'greaser' landings. Lovely views of the H9 P51 and Mk2 Spit doing flypasts.
Attended an air display on Sunday which was somewhat light on the Warbird front but made up for it by providing the real thing: stunning sight of a P51 (Ferocious Frankie) and Mk9 Spit (ML434) barreling down the runway at 20 ft wing tip to wing tip. No matter how old you are, that sight will always inspire. Can't wait to get out there again.
Unfortunately, pressures from elsewhere (work!) have overridden the return to airworthiness of the Parkzone spit, its still on the agenda and will be ready for test flights by Sarturday weather permitting.

Take care out there, preflight preflight preflight! Then you can't go wrong.
Wingco

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 9/2/2009 3:12 AM

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Wingco, great to be able to enjoy your post. Your H9 reports are especially useful in order to get a feel for just how our advanced Park Flyers fit into the scheme of things. Also, I can just imagine how you must have felt when the full scale FF P-51 and Spit came roaring down the runway!

Yes, preflight! The other day I literally had the motor running on the GUNFIGHTER for launch when I just happened to notice my aileron trim was noticeably wrong. It dawned on me that I had not checked my transmitter switches. Sure am glad I caught that when I did (blush).

It's amazing to me how different WWI and WWII park flyers are with torque rolling phenomena. I have tried to deliberately torque roll the F4U and the P-51 with no success at all. Whereas, my WWI flying machines seem to want to torque roll on a whim. Please see next url for today's near disasters.
Great Planes Spad XIII EP
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8770850/anchors_9062785/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#9062785

Well, time is running out for me. Soon I will be on yet another secret mission. I hope to have my new 109 by then. I should have no trouble at all slipping in behind enemy lines with or without my new killer Messerschmitt . The enemy will not even know what hit them.

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RE: Parkzone Supermarine Spitfire Mk11B - 9/2/2009 9:33 AM

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Well, Madweb,

I can go one futher on the embarrassing 'in yer face' oversights.
Noticed a while ago that each time I assembled the H9 Spit at the strip, the elevator (you guys call it the horizontal stab) trim needed massive adjustment. I checked the servo mountings, control rods linkages, hinges etc etc, couldnt work it out, Wingman had a go and couldnt come up with anything either. It just occasionally would centre itself in a markedly downward position and after correction would sometimes suddenly cure itself and then be too far in an upwards position, needing frantic trimming during flight. Obviously I started to think that there was something amiss with the servo.
Well after one such baffling adjustment session I was just opening up for the first take off on the first sortie of the day, when suddenly the tail lifted way too early and too high narrowly avoiding clipping the prop, only avoided by swift shut down. It was then and only then, to my shame, that I noticed that the entire horizontal tail section had at some stage come adrift slightly, and had backwards and forwards movement of about 1/4 inch. At the back end of the errant travel the control rod pulled the elevator down.........I'm cringing as I write this.
Naturally this has led to a very pedantic series of preflight checks: every electrical connector (and there are many), all control surfaces (free and full movement) all three battery mountings (no free and full movement!) in fact I make sure that if its not supposed to move it cant, and if it is supposed to move it can, and move all the way.
Take care out there, chaps
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