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Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/5/2006 4:04 PM   
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I am planning on buying the 25% Greatplanes YAK ARF and installing a Fuji BT43EI.
Is this a good engine?
Can i see some pics of your installation?
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when you mix gasoline with oil,
you just drop the oil in the can with the gasoline and then shake the can?


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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/5/2006 6:38 PM   
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Normally it's easiest to pour in the oil and just fill it up with gas. It's just like making the gas for a boat, lawn mower, or chainsaw.

As far as the engine choice.. well that directly relates to the type of flying you wish to do. Personally for similar money, lighter engine, and more power I would put a Brillelli 46 in it. http://brillelli.com/brillelli_engines_009.htm

I think will be happier as your flying develops and you need more power.

Just my 2 cents.

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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/5/2006 10:10 PM   
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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 6:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I purchased a Fuji 43 EI as a first gas engine and installed it on a G.P. Ultimate 1.60, I had lots of RFI issues but finally got it resolved by moving the ground wire direct to base of spark plug... I will add that others used this engine on the same plane without any problems... The engine is turning an MSC 20x8 prop at 6500 with about 1 gallon of gas run through it... The engine is very smooth running, it has no more vibration than my 1.50 and 1.80 Saito's... The engine starts very easy and has been reliable and idles very slow... I am happy with it but will add that I wish it had a little more power... Mine weighs 3.75 lbs with ignition... Just a comment from a newbie gas user, But I know one thing, I love gas!

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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 9:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Fuji BT43EI will be fine, both as an engine alone and for your particular application. It is a reasonably priced, quality built engine.

Any time anyone asks about a particular engine, you will always get responses saying another brand is better or more powerful (all of which are generally more expensive, except for the Brillelli). It is a matter of individual preference so take it as that.

Gas engines need ample break in running to produce maximum power so none should be judged after the first gallon or two. I have Zenoah G-23 that I will absolutely not part with. It took three flying seasons to get eight gallons through it and it is now a snarling monster compared to the first season.

I have a Fuji BT43EI in the box waiting for project time plus a Fuji BT24 (new model) on back order. Specs say it weighs approximately two lbs including muffler so that one may start a new round of who has the lightest 23-26cc!


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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 10:04 AM   
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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 10:52 AM   
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The Fuji BT43EI will be fine, both as an engine alone and for your particular application. It is a reasonably priced, quality built engine.

Any time anyone asks about a particular engine, you will always get responses saying another brand is better or more powerful (all of which are generally more expensive, except for the Brillelli). It is a matter of individual preference so take it as that.

Gas engines need ample break in running to produce maximum power so none should be judged after the first gallon or two. I have Zenoah G-23 that I will absolutely not part with. It took three flying seasons to get eight gallons through it and it is now a snarling monster compared to the first season.

I have a Fuji BT43EI in the box waiting for project time plus a Fuji BT24 (new model) on back order. Specs say it weighs approximately two lbs including muffler so that one may start a new round of who has the lightest 23-26cc!




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I purchased a Fuji 43 EI as a first gas engine and installed it on a G.P. Ultimate 1.60, I had lots of RFI issues but finally got it resolved by moving the ground wire direct to base of spark plug... I will add that others used this engine on the same plane without any problems... The engine is turning an MSC 20x8 prop at 6500 with about 1 gallon of gas run through it... The engine is very smooth running, it has no more vibration than my 1.50 and 1.80 Saito's... The engine starts very easy and has been reliable and idles very slow... I am happy with it but will add that I wish it had a little more power... Mine weighs 3.75 lbs with ignition... Just a comment from a newbie gas user, But I know one thing, I love gas!



Am,
can i see some pictures of your engine?
Also,
why did you installed the ground wire directly to the base of the spark plug?
Also,
i saw that Fuji(On Tower) has a 2stroke oil exactly for Fuji engines.
But the cost is really high,isn't it?
What other choices do i have considering the lubricant?
Thank you all guys who replied to my post.
You know,
buying an engine that's not a glow engine seems at first weird!!!!!!
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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 1:33 PM   
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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 5:56 PM   
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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 6:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		well I orig. suggested he 46.

I think a 40 is a bit small for that plane. I had a WH Yak with a strong 44 on it and it was great till you tried anything 3D and it wouldn't do much. I know that engine was stronger than a 40 and since the planes are similare weights I opt'd for the 46 choice right from the get go.

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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 6:38 PM   
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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 9:36 PM   
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Fuji is a line of engines best known for being cheap. With the exception of a certain B-25 that has a couple of cherry picked engines that's about their only claim to fame.


I agree the Brillelli is an awsome 46, own one myself.

Your statement "Fuji is a line of engines best known for being cheap" without facts is a pretty lame instead of saying it is your personal opinion. Sure some Fuji owners have had a bad apple but so has DA, 3W, ZDZ, and probably even Brillelli has had an occasional clunker.

If you don't own one then say it is your personal opinion or button up. Kostas1 question is about the Fuji43, not everyone's pet gas burner.

RCIGN1, your comments are always appreciated. You are one of the rare folks on RCU who know what he is talking about...walking the walk rather than talking the talk.


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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 10:04 PM   
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I tend to agree with Silversurfer, but why don't you do a search on the Fugi 43cc and read what other owners have said.

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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 10:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess since I own a 43 fuji I can chime in without getting jumped on. I have one on a GP Ultimate. It flies the Ulti nice but that is for the type of flying I do. It is not a 3d machine with this engine. I have a 21x8 PT CF prop. I do like this engine it is very reliable engine and a excellent bargain when purchased from tower with the discount they give you. As a first gas engine I cant see why not. Check the Yak thread, I am sure someone used this combo and can comment on the performance.

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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 10:54 PM   
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I tend to agree with Silversurfer, but why don't you do a search on the Fugi 43cc and read what other owners have said.

Bruce


I have. Haven't found any negatives on the Fuji 43. A number of negatives on the Fuji 32BT, however locally several 32's perform right up there with any other in it's size.


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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/6/2006 11:06 PM   
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The thing that some fellows miss when chiming in about their pet gasser is not everyone wants a 3D engine! That is not a benchmark for all engines.

Comparing a Brillelli 46 to a Fuji 43EI is fair based on real performance, weight, cost, etc., not "known for being cheap".




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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/7/2006 12:47 AM   
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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/7/2006 5:35 AM   
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Here is Fuji mounted on a G.P. Ultimate. Flew 60 oz gas through it this afternoon, it runs nice and reliable as I previously posted... The plane weighs 15 lb, will hover but very slow pullout... Its not for hardcore 3D in this plane, but I really like the engine... Im not that interested in 3D anyway...Top veiw shows the mounting of ignition battery, exhaust side the E.I.M and SmartFly ignition cutoff under the EIM, and before everyone jumps on me the screws that hold the EIM in place are run through fuel line for isolation... carb side shows nyrod throttle linkage and choke rod runs out front of cowl... The fuel tank mounted on CG... Receiver and its battery are mounted under front edge of canopy, with servo for throttle to right of receiver... Hope this helps....Larry

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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/7/2006 10:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for your pics.
Ah,
i have some questions though!
What type ( diameter ) fuel line did you use and also did you use the same fuel line for the installation of the inside of the tank?
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what prop do you use?

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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/7/2006 10:17 AM   
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Kalispera! I too have a Fuji 43EI mounted on a GP Ultimate and find that this engine is as user friendly as my DA50 and DA100. Not as powerful as perhaps a ZDZ40, but at least you can rely that it will start without throwing out your arm. My engine has provided excellent service in the last year. I have had no sudden dead sticks, no interference problems and I can fly the Ultimate 12 -14 minutes safely on a 16 oz. tank (with a few oz. to spare). It was broken in on Lawnboy ashless oil (petroleum based oil) at a 32:1 mix for a gallon. I am now using AMSOIL synthetic at an 80:1 mix. I ran this mix all summer in the Arizona heat without a problem. Currently, it sports a XOAR 20X8 prop and it consistently does 6600 RPM. I am thinking of swapping it out for a Mezjlik CF prop to squeeze a few more RPM out of her. I would say that the Fuji 43 is a good value and will provide good reliable service. It will perform well in aerobatic airframes at 14lbs or less (12 to 13lbs if you want stellar 3D performance). If you desire power, get the ZDZ40, however, prepare yourself for many frustrating days of attempting to start the beast. I have read much positive hype on the Brellilli, however, I do not know anyone in my club who currently is using one, so, I can't comment on it's performance. I think for a first gasser the Fuji is an excellent engine. Feel free to contact me if you need any more information on this engine (from one fellow Greek to another).

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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/7/2006 11:50 AM   
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How do you know that kalispera=good afternoon?

Are you from Greece and you live in USA?
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i know it's a bit difficult for you,but do you have a video of the BT43EI running?


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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/8/2006 10:15 AM   
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I am an American of Greek decent. Born in the U.S.A. of Greek immigrant parents. I speak and read the language and visit Greece to see my relatives every couple of years. I am very surprised by the number of Hellenes that aeromodel in Greece. I imagine it is not an inexpensive hobby for you.

I don't have a movie of the Fuji, however, I have attached a link to a review of the GP Aeromaster bipe that uses the Fuji 43. It's a good review of both airplane and the Fuji and includes installation photos and a video of the Fuji powering the Aeromaster.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566313

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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/8/2006 3:59 PM   
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thank you.
Aeromodelling in Greece is expensive.
That's why many Greek friends-aeromodellers buy from USA etc etc.
How do you mix the gasoline with the oil?
Ante kalo apogevma file.
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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/9/2006 8:43 PM   
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I'm not sure Brian meant his comments to belittle your engines but, perhaps, more tired of people taking a thread immediately off topic.

My annoyance with this thread, and many others, is where a person is asking for feedback about a specific product but immediately gets someone's pet product shoved in their face, and in many cases deride the original person's choice.

There is nothing wrong with being an enthusiastic and satisfied customer but replyers should give it a rest when someone asks about a specific product.

Most modelers spending time on the web are pretty knowledgable about what is available so their questions usually surround a product. And once he obtains the specific info he may change his mind or firm his decision.

Kostas1 wanted information about the Fuji43EI on this specific ARF. If one reads back through this thread there are a number of appropriate replys to his question. Sinergy's attempt to be "helpful" is honorable but off topic just like most of the posts, including this one.

The rest of the Brillelli, Zenoah, DA posters need to shut up and let the Fuji owners get this thread back on topic.


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RE: Fuji BT43EI good as a first gas engine? - 11/9/2006 8:57 PM   
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You are 100% correct. I just felt I was being blamed for others posts on our product. If it wasn't for that I would have said nothing.

Enough is enough, back to the question at hand. The Fuji BT43EI

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