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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 1/31/2013 1:51 PM

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I had the same problem with my Duratrax Evader. So your problem is the lock part of the nut is NOT touching the threads on the axle. Do you have washers behind the nut? If so, remove them. If that doesn't fix the problem, then you'll need some thinner lock nuts. I'll try to find some for you and post a link.

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/1/2013 4:55 PM

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Hi,

Thanks for the reply, for the nuts someone suggested me to use the "locktite" glue for it, what do you think?

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/1/2013 11:22 PM

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No, don't use "Locktite". Locktite is strong to a point. But when your doing full throttle down the driveway and your expecting the wheel stay on,...it's not going to. When you use locktite like that, it's a rig job because that's not how the lock nut is supposed to be used. Here are some thinner ones. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Racers-4mm-Alu-Flanged-Lock-Nut-Thin-4-Silver-10280S-/330865919838?pt=US_Character_Radio_Control_Toys&hash=item4d0925475e These should work for you.

Also, you didn't answer my question. Is there a washer behind the nut?

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/2/2013 2:14 AM

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I agree with diehard, a set of decent nylock nuts with locking flange should help.

Might even be worth shimming up the axle because if it has excessive movement it will through out the hub pins on the slightest knock

Found this on another forum...

"Shims are like precision washers that come in specific thickness. If your cars wheel bearings have a 5mm inner diameter, you need the 5mm shim set form Tamiya. It includes a bag of .1mm, .2mm & .3mm shims (10 each). For 2wd front wheels, I take the wheel nut & wheel off and install 1 .1mm shim. Then put the wheel & nut back on & tighten it down all the way. Now check for axial play by pulling & pushing the wheel in & out. If there is still axial play, install another .1mm shim & recheck. Repeat this process until no axial play remains. Now you spin the wheel to make sure it still rolls as smooth as it did before you started shimming. If not, remove one shim & recheck the spin. If the wheel now spins smooth your almost done. Next remove all the shims and count them up. Then replace them with versions of the thicker shims that add up to the same thickness. IE: If it took 4 .1mm shims, install 1 .3mm & 1 .1mm OR 2 .2mm shims. Now your done with that axle...

For the driven wheels, it sometimes best to just remove the whole upright and shim it while it's off the car. This way you can spin them freely. For cars with pin-type hexes, put the shims between the outer bearings, and the pin. For cars with splined hexes (Avante, Dyna Storm, etc...) Put the shim between the drive cup and the inside bearing (towards the dogbone/u-joint)...

One set of shims should do several cars, and it's totally worth the extra cost & effort...

BTW: You can shim pretty much every single gear & pulley shaft in your car to help it run smoother."

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/2/2013 2:22 AM

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Just remember with wheel nuts each time u remove them they wear out slightly.

Ideally in the real world u replace them each time they are removed... Very common in the automotive industry.
No so common with hobby Rc cars, after a while u will get a feel for how they should feel when winding them on, if u can wind them on by hand the nylock part on th nut is worn out and u need new nuts, or if a nut keeps comming loose it needs replacing

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/2/2013 8:38 AM

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@DieHard1207
Thanks for the headsup ! I will look for that glue, i hope local ACE store has it.
And No there is no washer. Now i doubt the nuts are even lock type, maybe the are just regular nutS?

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/2/2013 8:44 AM

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Thanks for very descriptive reply, i am just a beginner in the rc world. I have a HBX massive 4x4 brushless truck, it has the hex with pin inside, there is a lot of play in the front wheels plus one is shaking like crazy it needs balancing and i have no experience on how to do it. The car has a lot of power but looks like the parts are not up to it. Slowly i will replace em when thet wear out completely, i am getting a lot of help from this forum, thanks to everyone out there!

Do i still need the shim set or just balancing?

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/2/2013 2:48 PM

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If they are lock nuts, there should be like a nylon washer type peice inside the nut. (Just incase you weren't familar with lock nuts. I didn't mean to make you feel ignorant, I just thought I'd put it in there just in case.

) If they aren't lock nuts, then you NEED to get some. I beleive they are 4mm lock nuts, but I suggest you check anyway before you buy some.

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Thanks for the headsup ! I will look for that glue, i hope local ACE store has it.
And No there is no washer. Now i doubt the nuts are even lock type, maybe the are just regular nutS?

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 12:02 AM

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Hey,

Last week I built a straight edge plow for my 4x4 Cross Tiger. It was all stock and barely pushed any snow. So I put a brushless system in it and reformed the plow with a curve, a v-shape, and a new mounting system. I took the pictures before paint. I painted it a while ago, and it should be dry by tomorrow afternoon. I while I was waiting for it to dry, I took it out for a run. The first pics are a little bashing with brushless, and the second ones are the new plow.

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 2:14 AM

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@phmaximus

Thanks for very descriptive reply, i am just a beginner in the rc world. I have a HBX massive 4x4 brushless truck, it has the hex with pin inside, there is a lot of play in the front wheels plus one is shaking like crazy it needs balancing and i have no experience on how to do it. The car has a lot of power but looks like the parts are not up to it. Slowly i will replace em when thet wear out completely, i am getting a lot of help from this forum, thanks to everyone out there!

Do i still need the shim set or just balancing?
TIA

both, start with shiming, once u get it all shimmed u can actially ballance those big wheels on the axles, just remove the dog bones.
I use to have a HBX rocket, from what i can see its the same just a buggy version?

we are here to help, serioulsy ask anything, dont feel silly.

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 2:18 AM

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Hey,
Last week I built a straight edge plow for my 4x4 Cross Tiger. It was all stock and barely pushed any snow. So I put a brushless system in it and reformed the plow with a curve, a v-shape, and a new mounting system. I took the pictures before paint. I painted it a while ago, and it should be dry by tomorrow afternoon. I while I was waiting for it to dry, I took it out for a run. The first pics are a little bashing with brushless, and the second ones are the new plow.

that is so cool, how well does the plow work? could u fit a servo to it to adjust hight? u could use a 3rd CH

might have to get my bonzer cranking again, I striped a diff cup and its sat since lol

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 3:12 AM

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Hi,

Are tamiya parts compatible with HBX? Earlier DieHard has suggested me to use the TL01 gear mesh for my HBX, and robinson pinion? Can i use them with my motor, what about the Spur ?

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 4:11 AM

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Thanks! I haven't tried out the plow yet. Over here in Michigan, it's only 11:02 p.m., so my plow is still sitting out in the garage drying.

Can't wait to try it out tomorrow! I was going to use a 3 CH and servo, but I don't have a 3 CH. I have a few good servos, but a 3 CH is on my To Buy list. Eventually, when I get a Savage XS Flux, it comes with a 3 CH and I plan on putting the plow on that. But for now, I am going to try it out with the HBX. I thought about pulling the tires off the rims, (Since their not glued on) and drilling holes down the center tread, and putting sheet metal screws in the holes with a nut, and having the head on the inside of the tire for more traction. Do you follow?

I thought about this, and then I figured it may not be a good idea, because in the summer, when I'm running speed runs and bashing, those studs are going to rip and throw everything. I thought then, if I removed the screws in the summer, I'd have holes and the tires would fill up with dirt.

So what do you guys think? Should I stud them? I'm sure if I did, I would have no problem with traction? Would the studs work in the summer?

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Hey,
Last week I built a straight edge plow for my 4x4 Cross Tiger. It was all stock and barely pushed any snow. So I put a brushless system in it and reformed the plow with a curve, a v-shape, and a new mounting system. I took the pictures before paint. I painted it a while ago, and it should be dry by tomorrow afternoon. I while I was waiting for it to dry, I took it out for a run. The first pics are a little bashing with brushless, and the second ones are the new plow.

that is so cool, how well does the plow work? could u fit a servo to it to adjust hight? u could use a 3rd CH

might have to get my bonzer cranking again, I striped a diff cup and its sat since lol

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 4:19 AM

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The spur gear comes in the Tamiya gear set. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGL57&P=7 Also with those gears, in order for the pinion to mesh right with the spur, the pinion has to be metric. I suggest you do a 19T, as they seem to be the best gear ratio. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEX42&P=7 Not all Tamiya parts are compatible, but the vehicles that have the most compatible parts are the TL-01 and the TT-01. The metric pinion should screw right on to your motor's shaft.

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Hi,

Are tamiya parts compatible with HBX? Earlier DieHard has suggested me to use the TL01 gear mesh for my HBX, and robinson pinion? Can i use them with my motor, what about the Spur ?

TIA

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 4:43 AM

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Hi,

Kindly see the attached image, i dont see the 'highlighted' part in the Tamya gear sets that you had recommended earlier. And as for the Pinion, i also noticed the original HBX Spur and Pinion set has more teeths then the one you had recommended. Since i am new to this area could you explain a bit whats the ratio between pinon and Spur or is there a rule of thumb for pinon and spur selection?

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 12:53 PM

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Oh............ I didn't know you had that type of truck. Um.. Could you attach a picture of the truck you do have?

The rule of thumb for gear mesh, is you take a regular peice of printer paper, cut a strip about 4cm long, and 1cm wide. It doesn't have to be perfect. Then stick the peice of paper length wise into the gear mesh between the pinion and the spur. Then press the two gears together so the pinion moves to the correct position in the slot, and tighten down the screws. Roll the spur to roll out the peice of paper, and you have a perfect gear mesh. If it seems too tight or too loose, or if it's making a sound, then you either didn't pinch hard enough, or you pinched too hard. You can adjust it slightly by partially loosening one of the screws, then tapping the motor over a bit, and tighten the screw back up. Or you can just start all over with the peice of paper. Eventually you'll get it right. Maybe you'll get it the first time. The more you do it, the better you get at it.

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 7:46 PM

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Hi,

I have this truck but with brushless motor.
http://www.elitemodelsonline.co.uk/Products/Cars/Electric-Cars/Electric-Off-Road/8307-/HBX-110-EP-RTR-MASSIVE-OFF-ROAD-TRUCK-BRUSHED-MOTOR

cn you tell me the stop function is a feature of remote or ESC, my car doesnt stop properly any more rather i have to use reverse function to stop it, what could be the reason?

TIA

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 11:03 PM

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I've been lurking around these posts on the hbx topic and found that my sons truck the iMex renegade is the same as the hbx massive. So I guess I can now say that we own an Hbx. :-)

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 11:25 PM

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Just rember this thread was for the HBX bonzer that is a clone of a Tamiya TL01b BajaKing, but HBX used monster truck wheels and a mt body.

99.9% of the parts are interchangeable, the only thing Is... HBX have a longer gear shaft and will not work with a Tamiya chassis

The HBX massive or rocket is not compatable at all with any Tamiya. Or even the bonzer

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/3/2013 11:28 PM

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Hi,

I have this truck but with brushless motor.
http://www.elitemodelsonline.co.uk/Products/Cars/Electric-Cars/Electric-Off-Road/8307-/HBX-110-EP-RTR-MASSIVE-OFF-ROAD-TRUCK-BRUSHED-MOTOR

cn you tell me the stop function is a feature of remote or ESC, my car doesnt stop properly any more rather i have to use reverse function to stop it, what could be the reason?

TIA

The breakes are controlled by the ESC, what setting do u have them set to?
If its the lansu I wouldent have a clue if it's even possible to change there settings

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/4/2013 4:31 AM

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It is a Lansu

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/4/2013 1:07 PM

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There is not much u can do, to improve braking with that esc

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/4/2013 4:48 PM

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Finally had a chance today to try out my snowplow! It plowed great, I'd say at an easy rate, it can plow 3-4" of snow. Here are some pics. (Below the deck was the only place that there was 2-3". Everywhere else was a foot or so.)

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/4/2013 10:19 PM

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lol thats so cool, now i have the MR.PLOW song stuck in my head from the Simpsons

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RE: HBX, Who else owns one?? - 2/4/2013 11:08 PM

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Bad news with the plow. My mounting arms are bending and the screws are coming loose, causing the plow to come closer to the truck.

I'm going to have to put some 90* bends in the arms and I need to make them longer so I can make more of a V-shape. Also, as you can see, I couldn't push snow very far before the wheels started spinning. So what do you think? Should I put sheet metal screw studs in the center tread bead?

Also, should I make it a straight plow instead of a V? I thought about doing an angled plow but I figured that it'd push the front end over in the opposite direction of the snow. Before I can do anything more, I need some more sheet metal.

BTW, thank you for the complements.

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