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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/12/2006 9:43:52 PM   
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Sorry, but that all sounds overly like a magazine - nothing is bad.. Precisely why I've stopped buying magazines. I've never had an E-MAXX, but wouldn't get one precisely because I've heard they ARE money-pits.. Have I had one myself to find out?? No. But that's what forums are for - and sorry, I trust forums more than magazine articles with more.....um, commercial....... agendas..

No offense to you in particular - but I just found this post a bit overboard... And comparing an everyday grocery-getter to a monster-truck isn't quite fair either.. These trucks are designed for off-road, after all..




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The twin plate chassis used by the E-Savage does have some advantages in the area of strength. However, the Maxx has larger aftermarket support and handles a little better. When it comes to overall power, the two are fairly equal.

In short there really isn't one answer that fits all cases when asking what's better. It boils down to what you'll be doing the most, and your personal preferences. I do think that the term "money pit" is often overused. Your taking a truck and beating on it, whether it's at a track or in a backyard. No matter what truck you use, something will break from time to time. Try taking your daily driver automobile and jump it off of ramps or at the track all afternoon. See how it fares!

I encourage you to research your choices, and see what fits your purpose the best. What's right for one person, isn't necessarily going to be right for someone else.


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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/13/2006 1:58:27 PM   
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Which one would you rather have Misbehavin?

There really isn't a clear cut answer, as it would boil down to what I'm primarily after. For more extreme jumping, I think the E-Savage would get my vote. As I stated, the TVP chassis has some advantages. However, if I'm looking for more average driving, and handling is paramount, the Maxx would get my vote. The Maxx also has more aftermarket options if that would be important to me.

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Sorry, but that all sounds overly like a magazine - nothing is bad.. Precisely why I've stopped buying magazines. I've never had an E-MAXX, but wouldn't get one precisely because I've heard they ARE money-pits.. Have I had one myself to find out?? No. But that's what forums are for - and sorry, I trust forums more than magazine articles with more.....um, commercial....... agendas..

I state exactly what I see when I run a vehicle. It may not agree with what's seen in the forums, but then again to be honest you'd have to admit that the forums tend to always lean towards painting a vehicle in a negative light. Members always tend to post with problems, and those are the threads that grow. The threads where someone compliments a vehicle, don't tend to fare as well. In addition, there's always too many "experts" about a vehicle that's called a "money pit" when in fact those experts have never driven the vehicle in question and are relying solely on the negative posts in a forum. If you want to try and make a case for bias, you should look at both angles. Personally, when I buy, I never rely soley on any single source anyway. I would recommend to anyone to view all information (reviews, forums, and otherwise), and then use it as a tool to make an informed decision.

I have no commercial agenda. However, at the same time I'm not going to write about something I didn't experience just because the forums tend to say something bad about it. In short, just the facts as I experience and see them. I don't let any forum posts sway my position, although they may make me look closer at a particular area to make sure I don't see an issue. For a post where I discuss my treatment of vehicles, read this. If I have a problem, I give it coverage. I don't post about things that don't happen however.

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No offense to you in particular - but I just found this post a bit overboard... And comparing an everyday grocery-getter to a monster-truck isn't quite fair either.. These trucks are designed for off-road, after all..

Yes, these trucks are designed for off-road use. However, they are often used for more extreme abuse than they were designed. That's my point. Everything has it's limitations, and I often see people putting vehicles in situations that are pushing the vehicle past that. Then they make a forum post and complain that it can't live up to the abuse. In other cases the owner is new, and that plays a factor. At other times, the part may have been weakened from prior abuse, and therefore an "light hit" may cause it to fail. then you get a few people who jump in and turn things into a brand name war. Those are the things that tend to get glossed over in forums. So you have to keep that in mind as well.

Let's not forget that everyone's needs are different as well. "Bob's" perfect vehicle may not suit your needs, but yours may not suit yours either. Does that mean that either on is rubbish? No, it doesn't. To try and blindly label any single vehicle in that manner is a very short-sighted approach.

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/13/2006 2:35:04 PM   
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OK, fair enough - and thanks for the even-tempered answer..(and sorry, was just being ornery..)

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/13/2006 3:06:17 PM   
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So your going to send us your E-Savage draft review today right? JP. Hey, thanks for the info.

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/13/2006 3:19:18 PM   
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OK, fair enough - and thanks for the even-tempered answer..(and sorry, was just being ornery..)

No apologies necessary. I just wanted to make sure my post was seen in the correct light.

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So your going to send us your E-Savage draft review today right? JP. Hey, thanks for the info.

While I don't know the exact schedule for the article's release, I wouldn't expect it to be too much longer. I know that may not help you much though, due to the stage of purchasing you're already at.

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/13/2006 5:15:17 PM   
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What do you guys do with the RCs after you review them? Do I hear a donation to bluecutty?

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/13/2006 6:36:13 PM   
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Welp, I went ahead and canceled the order on my E-Maxx today. I'm supposed to pickup my E-Savage tomorrow. Misbehavin - Did HPI improve the batteries that come with the E-Savage? From what I've read, the ones that come with the E-Zilla are horrible. I have some brand new GP3300s so I'm not too concerned but if HPI wants to make a name for themselves with this truck, they should put decent batteries in with the kit.

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/14/2006 4:32:54 AM   
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What do you guys do with the RCs after you review them? Do I hear a donation to bluecutty?

I have fun with it for a while, and then move on to the next one. Considering writing each review is like writing a term paper all over again, I have to do something to break the tension! A lot of people tend to only see the fact that playing with the vehicles is fun, and that's true. However, there's a ton of work behind the scenes on each article. The amount of writing, html coding, video, and picture work easily takes a couple dozen hours alone. That's outside of driving the vehicle.

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Did HPI improve the batteries that come with the E-Savage?

The batteries included wirth the kit are Hot Bodies 3300Mah. They worked fine for me, although they aren't high dollar cells. I can't speak one way or another regarding the packs that originally came with the E-Zilla. I had no experience with them.

While I'm sure some people will always want top-shelf cells they should keep in mind that HPI has a pricing target they want to hit with the vehicle. If they start driving the cost up too much, they'll be pricing the truck out of it's intended target range.

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/14/2006 5:12:42 AM   
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The poor E-zilla... They've been coming with those 3300's for a long time. Yes, the original 2000's sucked - but they fixed that..

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/14/2006 1:36:44 PM   
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In short there really isn't one answer that fits all cases when asking what's better. It boils down to what you'll be doing the most, and your personal preferences. I do think that the term "money pit" is often overused.


This is true. In reality, this entire hobby is a money pit.

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/14/2006 2:10:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Misbehavin



In short there really isn't one answer that fits all cases when asking what's better. It boils down to what you'll be doing the most, and your personal preferences. I do think that the term "money pit" is often overused.


This is true. In reality, this entire hobby is a money pit.

Haha! Now that's the proper use of the term money pit!

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/15/2006 7:18:59 PM   
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Hey everyone, first time to post on here.
I've been reading reviews and the forums on the E-maxx and was set to buy and then I stumbled on to the E-Savage and am very curious about it.

First off I'm a beginner. So I know absolutley nothing. I'm wanting to get something I can learn with while having fun.

I'm mainly getting in this hobby because my cousin. He bought a Traxxas Nitro Sport and now he passed the bug on to me. Except I don't want the hassle of Nitro.

So this is what I'm looking for.

Something that can climb rocks and hills and of the sorts.
That has good accelaration and decent speed.
That is durrable. (I don't want to get in the hobby and then the next day have something break.)
Easy to work on.
That is decently priced.

Everything about the E-Savage sounds right except I have questions on its ability to climb rocks.
Anymore info would be great.

Sorry if I seem sporadic on my message.

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/15/2006 7:34:28 PM   
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i climb my e-zilla all the time. it isnt a rock crawler by any means but crawling over cobblestones and rocks lining gardens and hopping onto my porch, etc is alot of fun. dont evpect anything crazy because you wont get it from an entry level independent suspension truck. they are built for jumping and racing. the zilla/savage is a very good jumper. suspension is a little on the soft side, but it really doesnt affect much cuz it doesnt break anyway. and it is a very durable truck. i havent broken my e-zilla yet except for one shock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo6pqudhoYk

i couldnt speak on the e-maxx for you.

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RE: Review in Progress: HPI E-Savage - 12/15/2006 9:52:04 PM   
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No, I'm not looking for extreme rock crawling. Just some small stuff. That