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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/29/2006 5:03:32 PM   
schroedm



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Warnings against using ball links on the sides of the phenolic arms have been in the manuals of all our kits for at least 10 years. This setup is a definite no-no on our large aerobatic models and a clevis works perfectly well. On a 2m pattern model with reduced loads(?) you may well get away with it but why risk it?

Your Otop may well a similar but different material OR it may be the same material and manufacturer has not have experienced its twisting limitations as Comp-ARF have on their larger models.

If you have to use a ball link we recommend you use the supplied arms as a template and cut your own from a different material.

Rgds,
Mark

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/29/2006 6:48:17 PM   
Angus Balfour



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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/29/2006 8:15:44 PM   
rgreen24



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Status: offline 		Hey Don check of this forum, it may help you.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2227831/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/29/2006 8:17:56 PM   
apereira


 

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Status: offline 		Dear Jason, thank for sharing with us the construction of the Integral, I was waiting to hear from this new model, do you think that glow engines behave better with strong winds than electrics?, or is just the way an individual flies it?

Thanks

Alejandro

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/29/2006 8:48:56 PM   
Torben Parsberg


 

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Status: offline 		hi JASON..
Dont forget the video camera
WE LOOOVe Video
keep on the good Woork

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/29/2006 9:25:09 PM   
flyguy667355


 

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Status: offline 		rgreen24 thks, however when i read this post i read about a fuselage failure etc... how's yours doing?? Also, no pictures of the setup etc.. i can call you via phone, etc if you like, just looking for some information.. thks don

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/29/2006 9:39:44 PM   
rgreen24



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Status: offline 		I do not want to Hi-jack this thread with talk of the Otop. that being said, I have not had any issues with my OTOP. I still contend that it is one of the best planes that I have ever flown right out of the box. I am switching to go with something having a wider body for more constant speed.

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/29/2006 11:44:09 PM   
JAS



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Status: offline 		Here's how I have the linkages on the Integral.
Unless someone has a video camera....
Glow/Electric... it's all in how the individual sets-up/flies the plane.

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/30/2006 12:03:00 AM   
flyguy667355


 

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Status: offline 		rgreen 24, Agree 100% on the hijack thread issue, that's why i sent you my personal email.Thks, and we too are awaiting the test flight of the Integral... Come on Jason,you have us all captive.
Looks to be a great ship!
Don

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/30/2006 12:12:26 AM   
PeterP



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Status: offline 		Jason,

Not sure if you agree but I would be telling comp-ARF to move the horn locations on wing and stab to get everything as close to 90 degrees as possible on the production versions. Those arms sure look long on your servos?


Peter

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 11/30/2006 12:24:15 AM   
JAS



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There are no slots cut for the horns in case one chooses not to use them, I cut them there. I, however, will continue to mount mine like this. The reason- at full deflection, the pushrod is straight there-by not loosing any “mechanical advantage” (might not the right choice of words here). Personal preference. Although after I figure out what throws I want on the surfaces, I will try and move the pushrods in on the arms and down on the surface to achieve the same thing. Currently this is the identical set-up from my Impacts.

Rain, rain go away, I want to race at Tangerine (this weekend) http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5060082/tm.htm

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 12/1/2006 2:35:55 PM   
rgreen24



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Status: offline 		Jason, quick question about your nose ring set up. Do you have to remove the nose ring from the plane, the remove the engine or does it just slide out? And also who makes the nose ring that you are using?


Thanks

R

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 12/2/2006 1:01:26 PM   
Torben Parsberg


 

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Nice plane how did it perform????

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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread - 12/2/2006 4:54:02 PM   
Julius-Alexander



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Nice plane how did it perform????


Might not this question be a bit embarrassing for Mr Zardini who is selling this beautiful model? A such nice looking airplane can only fly well, no?

I would appreciate how clean his cockpit setup done. Excellent job Mr Zardini... it sounds like a pleonasm to me.

Bonnes fêtes de fin d'année en Belgique et dans le reste de la francophonie.

J.-A.

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