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gnirwin -> Sig's new Waco SRE (11/23/2006 5:34:27 AM)

Doin a little bit of web surfing today and I came across this new plane that Sig has released. This thing looks real nice, 1/6 scale, 10 #'s , beautiful. Just what I needed another plane to add to my long list of must haves.[:D]




HuskerBoy -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/23/2006 7:09:55 AM)

Released photos anyway. I prefer this Waco over the TF Beech. Look like it's 9 to 10 lbs lighter and $100 cheaper too going from 1/5th to 1/6th scale.




Stickbuilder -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/23/2006 12:05:31 PM)

Remember one thing...The 1/5th scale will be a better flyer than the 1/6th. (voice of experience)

Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1




gnirwin -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/23/2006 3:31:45 PM)

yes if the last few planes Sig has released is any indication, it will be a few months before we will be seeing this in any of the HS. That will give me time to get my building table cleaned off. [:)]




cloudancer03 -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/23/2006 3:45:56 PM)

yes the release lets mw finish my spacewalker2...really turning out to be a joy to build ...If the waco is as good as that I will be adding another plane this winter (as if I needed too) .what the heck this my passion.and yes I think it likely will be easier than the stagger wing topflight has and thats nice too.




S. Christensen -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/23/2006 7:49:36 PM)

gnirwin,
Sorry to interupt your thread but I thought some solid information about the new Waco SRE might be helpful. We first introduced this model at the Chicago iHobby Show a few weeks back and the response was fantastic. At that time we quoted availability as the end of January to possibly early February and that still stands.

The airplane is 1/6th scale with a top wing span of 69-1/2". The final kit verison that I'm currently flying is powered with a Saito 1.00 4-stroke engine that provides excellent power margins. The scale flaps are just wonderful, providing super nice landings, etc. My Waco SRE weighs in at 9lbs, 12oz and that includes an optional glow driver system. We've worked hard on this kit, making it one of the nicest looking and nicest flying scale ships that I've flown in a long, long time. There's a lot more to say but I won't wasted you time here. I thought you might enjoy a few low-res photos of the final kit version, so I'm attaching these to this message.

Have a great Thanksgiving!
Scott Christensen
SIG Mfg. Co., Inc.




S. Christensen -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/23/2006 8:04:23 PM)

Here's a couple more.......
S. Christensen




gnirwin -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 2:38:19 AM)

thanks Scott, The plane is beautiful. If this plane is as light as you say and flies as well, then you guys might have hit a home run with it. I love bipes and even though this isn't officially a biplane it still will be a nice one to have.




Stickbuilder -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 2:43:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: gnirwin

thanks Scott, The plane is beautiful. If this plane is as light as you say and flies as well, then you guys might have hit a home run with it. I love bipes and even though this isn't officially a biplane it still will be a nice one to have.


Not a biplane? What would be required in order for it to be an, "Official Biplane?"

Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1




gnirwin -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 3:55:30 AM)

A plane with two wings of unequal width are called a "sesquiplane" or in the case of the SRE a "staggered sesquiplane", 1 1/2 wings . You do not hear this word very often as most people refer to a plane with 2 wings, regardless, as "biplanes".[;)]




Kmot -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 5:13:43 AM)

That plane is gorgeous!! [sm=thumbup.gif][sm=tongue_smile.gif]




Stickbuilder -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 11:07:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: gnirwin

A plane with two wings of unequal width are called a "sesquiplane" or in the case of the SRE a "staggered sesquiplane", 1 1/2 wings . You do not hear this word very often as most people refer to a plane with 2 wings, regardless, as "biplanes".[;)]


So, as to that, the entire lineup from the WACO Plant (Weaver Aviation) would not be considered Biplanes....HERESEY !!![:'(]

Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1




rclement -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 3:34:01 PM)

Don't matter what it's called it's a gorgeous plane......[8D]




khodges -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 3:43:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: gnirwin

A plane with two wings of unequal width are called a "sesquiplane" or in the case of the SRE a "staggered sesquiplane", 1 1/2 wings .


Not unequal width, but bottom wing has less than 1/2 the area of the top wing regardless of chord to be a "sesquiplane".

All that aside, the "Cabin WACO" is gorgeous and I will have one in my hangar. Scott, is this a laser cut kit, and what will the projected price range be? This is a KIT, right, and not an ARF, or will it be offered both ways?




rclement -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 3:47:14 PM)

It's an ARF. Here's the info on it.
1/6 Scale Waco SRE ARF
"Waco"! There are certain names that have the ability to conjure up the essence of the Golden Age of Flight and the WACO name is definitely one of them! SIG Manufacturing is pleased to offer modelers one of the finest Waco cabin aircraft ever produced, the fabulous Waco SRE. The SIG Waco SRE is a faithful 1/6th scale version of this beautiful aircraft and like it's fullscale brother, it's loaded with features that you have come to expect only from SIG.


This SIG ARF is truly a testament to the current state-of-the-art in ARF scale modeling. The scale rigging wires, along with their easy to adjust and quick-release fittings are included, as are the scale N-struts and painted-to-match mounting brackets. The high quality factory painted fiberglass cowl, wheel pants and scale landing gear parts really set this model apart from anything else out there! And because SIG understands that you want to get your own Waco SRE into the air quickly, parts are highly prefabricated and factory finished, assembly time has been cut to the minimum. Includes quality hardware, pull-pull rudder, scale aluminum spinner, scale decals and fully illustrated assembly manual.


Want to know how it flies? It flies just like a Waco, smooth, honest and just plain beautiful. Take-offs and landings are just wonderful and the functional scale flaps add a whole new definition to the word realistic.



Additional Features
Scale color scheme using quality SIG AeroKote
Factory painted windshield
2-piece top wing assembly for easy transportation and storage
1-piece factory finished bottom wing for quicker assembly

Specifications
Wingspan (Top): 69.5 in 1765 mm
Wing Area (Top): 756 in² 48.8 dm²
Wingspan (Bottom): 48.3 in 1227 mm
Wing Area (Bottom): 354 in² 22.8 dm²
Wing Area (Total): 1110 in² 71.6 dm²
Length: 55.2 in 1402 mm
Flying Weight: 9-1/2 - 10 lbs 4.30 - 4.53 kg
Engine Required: .75 - .90 (12 - 15 cm³) 2-Stroke or
.90 - 1.20 (15 - 20 cm³) 4-Stroke
Radio Required: 5 Channel, 7 Servos
Controls: Ailerons, Flaps, Elevator, Rudder & Throttle

Hey! It's a Waco with two wings and a round engine...nuff' said.

Product Code Description Price Type Order
Quantity
SIGRC101ARF SIG WACO SRE ARF 1/6TH SCALE EACH $399.99





Yak18 -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 4:02:09 PM)

That's it! Something's gotta go to make room in the hanger for this one.

Glad to see a simple airplane again. GP has outdone themselves with the Staggerwing and the C310 but these price out at well over a grand with the retracts and all.

Sig has given us just as awesome an airplane that we can afford!

Yak




gnirwin -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 4:52:03 PM)

I picked up the Sig Sun Dancer a couple weeks ago and am assembling it now, the quality of all components far exceeds most Arfs out there. That being said this new offering from Sig should be every bit as good of quality. I have a Saito 1.20 that needs a home. I can't wait.[:D]




Stickbuilder -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 5:01:55 PM)

Here is my latest version of a WACO (trim still has to be added) It did not start out as an ARF, but it is one now.

Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1




Yak18 -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 6:22:41 PM)

We will have to recess those servos though...yikes!

Yak





khodges -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/24/2006 11:49:58 PM)

If true that this is only offered as an ARF, then I'm highly DISAPPOINTED that Sig, as good as their ARF's are, has gone the way of mass marketing and profit margin. This plane would be a great kit. And with all the advertising hype regarding scale detail that rclement was good enough to share, the least they could do is hide the servos within the wing. They (Sig) did it with the Rascal 40, and it isn't even a scale model of anything.

I really like this aircraft type, and I like to BUILD, but like the convenience of having the repetitve parts done (ie., cutting ribs) that a kit provides. Looks like I'll have to just go with the MAN plans for the WACO E that Doug Hobbs designed. It's even slightly larger at 71 inch top wingspan.

If I DO break down and get Sig's version, I'll still rip off the plastic and go with a fabric cover, and I'll hide those dang servos, too.




gnirwin -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/25/2006 12:53:05 AM)

the way that arf's are now, especially with the prices, it's cheaper to buy an Arf and bash it to how you want then buying a kit. There are alot of threads on here of people buying Arfs and doing just that. I still like to build but nice Arfs are nice too. I have a P47 Arf right now that I have stripped the covering and I am adding scale details to. I probably would be very happy with this plane and just how it is but thats me.




Yak18 -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/25/2006 2:04:34 AM)

I think these manufacturers are missing out on sales by not offering ready to cover versions (RTC). Aside from the packaging, all they have to do is skip the painting and covering steps. A $50 to $75 price break would be nice too if you get it unfinished.
Plenty of ARF haters probably wouldn't mind them so much if they could finish and detail it themselves.

Yak




EASYTIGER -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/25/2006 2:08:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: khodges

If true that this is only offered as an ARF, then I'm highly DISAPPOINTED that Sig, as good as their ARF's are, has gone the way of mass marketing and profit margin. This plane would be a great kit. And with all the advertising hype regarding scale detail that rclement was good enough to share, the least they could do is hide the servos within the wing. They (Sig) did it with the Rascal 40, and it isn't even a scale model of anything.

I really like this aircraft type, and I like to BUILD, but like the convenience of having the repetitve parts done (ie., cutting ribs) that a kit provides. Looks like I'll have to just go with the MAN plans for the WACO E that Doug Hobbs designed. It's even slightly larger at 71 inch top wingspan.

If I DO break down and get Sig's version, I'll still rip off the plastic and go with a fabric cover, and I'll hide those dang servos, too.


I'm not dissapointed. I say "THANK GOD" Sig is getting on the ball and following the market, and making some more exclusive ARFs so they will actually stay in business for at least a while longer.
I'm an old school balsa basher, but I know which way the wind blows, it blows mighty ARFY!

Did you guys see the absolutely fantastic Waco that Scott Christenson made for indoor RC? An absolute masterpiece. Hat's off, this man can BUILD.





gnirwin -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/25/2006 2:26:48 AM)

actaually I ran across pictures of Scotts Waco yesterday when I did a Google search looking for pictues of the original Waco SRE. It looked to be the same color as this ARF. When I first ran across it I thought it was this new ARF. This website has an article and pictures of Scotts plane:
http://www.nasascale.org/projects/scottchristensen/wacosre-yellow.htm




khodges -> RE: Sig's new Waco SRE (11/25/2006 2:48:06 AM)

Well, I AM glad that this type is at least being modelled; what disappoints me is that it isn't being released in kit form as well as ARF; some people still like to build, after all. I could live with an ARC version, at least it would save me the time and effort of removing the plastic before I put REAL BIPLANE COVERING [:)](fabric) on it, plus I wouldn't have to pay for part of the package that I'd throw away in any event. Then my WACO E wouldn't look like all the other WACO E's at the field.

I wonder how the G-20ei would work in this plane. Might just have to find out.




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