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    RE: -=OF... - 7/3/2008 5:05:08 PM   
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    Status: offline     		the slipper clutch is not the fly wheel....lol

    you see those to metal discs on either side of spur gear?....ok, between those discs is a fiber ring...

    now, depending on how tight you have the slipper set, those metal discs will either snatch on to those rings and transfer the power to the transmission, or if it is set loose, the discs will SLIP on the rings, and will not transfer as much power...

    < Message edited by motorhead91 -- 7/3/2008 5:06:09 PM >

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    RE: -=OF... - 7/3/2008 5:39:44 PM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: motorhead91

    the slipper clutch is not the fly wheel....lol

    you see those to metal discs on either side of spur gear?....ok, between those discs is a fiber ring...

    now, depending on how tight you have the slipper set, those metal discs will either snatch on to those rings and transfer the power to the transmission, or if it is set loose, the discs will SLIP on the rings, and will not transfer as much power...

    so those decide how fast the motor has to be spinning for the car to move? sorry if these are really dumb questions. I new to nitro engines

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    RE: -=O... - 7/3/2008 9:25:02 PM   
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    Status: offline     		yes, in a way you are right.....
    say for instance the slipper is set as tight as possible, and at idle the truck slightly moves forward, then when you pin the throttle wide open, it does an insane wheelie and gets up too speed quickly

    now, say the slipper is set extremely loose, and at idle the car sits still, and you pin the throttle wide open, and it sort of "rolls" nice and smooth up to its top speed

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    RE: -=O... - 7/3/2008 9:52:50 PM   
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    Status: offline     		ok thanks

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    RE: -=O... - 7/4/2008 3:06:18 AM   
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    Status: offline     		My brother always said the flywheel was the slipper clutch. It didn't really make sense,but I just took his word for it and never looked into it...LOL

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    RE: -=O... - 7/4/2008 8:34:23 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Id mis-understood the fly-wheel/slipper clutch vs the clutch bell Having the clutch shoes in the clutch bell (and using the word clutch) probably helped confuse!

    Why have both when they both seem to control power to the wheels?

    Also if you can adjust the clutch by tightening the slipper clutch / spur gear, why do people do it by changing the clutch shoe springs?

    < Message edited by droidswarm -- 7/4/2008 8:42:24 AM >

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    RE: -=O... - 7/4/2008 11:44:50 AM   
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    Status: offline     		The slipper clutch is not to adjust speed and response off the line, it is to protect the drivetrain during heavy landings or crashes. It is supposed to be set to slip only in those conditions. When setting it, do some starts from a stop, under full throttle, make sure it is not slipping, then back it off as much as you can until it is on the limit of slipping. Otherwise, the slipper pads will wear out very quickly, and that is not what they are for.

    Check HPIs website for instructions on how to set it up:
    http://www.hpieurope.com/walk.php?lang=en&id=9

    http://www.hpieurope.com/graphics/kitimages/updates/2005070101/Rush_Slipper_Clutch.mov

    < Message edited by windowlicker -- 7/4/2008 11:46:27 AM >

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    RE: -=O... - 7/4/2008 11:47:54 AM   
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    ORIGINAL: motorhead91

    yes, in a way you are right.....
    say for instance the slipper is set as tight as possible, and at idle the truck slightly moves forward, then when you pin the throttle wide open, it does an insane wheelie and gets up too speed quickly

    now, say the slipper is set extremely loose, and at idle the car sits still, and you pin the throttle wide open, and it sort of "rolls" nice and smooth up to its top speed


    The car moving at idle is a result of a high idle setting on the engine, not anything to do with the slipper clutch

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    RE: -=O... - 7/4/2008 11:51:17 PM   
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    Status: offline     		I have yet ANOTHER problem. whenever I punch the throttle or go really fast for like 2-3 seconds the motor either shuts off or it slows down to like idle

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    RE: -=O... - 7/5/2008 12:18:59 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Newbie probs like that get anoying I know!Check to make sure there are no kinks in the fuel lines.Also make sure there is the right amount of smoke coming out of the exhaust.How are your temps??How clean is your air filter??How many turns lean did you go on the HSN??

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    RE: -=O... - 7/5/2008 12:35:52 AM   
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    Status: offline     		The temp? I don't know. neither do I know what the right amount of smoke is. also I just looked and the car and it looks like it's leaking fuel out of the back of the engine (like it's SOAKED in fuel.. and I just cleaned the car! ). also the brakes barely work at all now. I have it 1/8'th of a turn in on the HPN from the stock position

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    RE: -=O... - 7/5/2008 1:16:07 AM   
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    Status: offline     		sounds like the exhaust gasket has blown, or the exhaust is loose. That causes the engine lose a lot of power as the pressure in the tank drops from the leaking exhaust (the tube from the exhaust to the tank pressurizes the fuel tank and pushes the fuel to the engine)

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    RE: -=O... - 7/5/2008 2:38:30 AM   
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    Status: offline     		A temp guage is a nescesity these days....Grab one.Its a good investment.

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    RE: -=O... - 7/5/2008 2:41:23 AM