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BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/7/2006 11:51:30 PM   
mgnostic



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Status: offline 		Has anyone else had much experience with the BUSA N17? I've seen seveal posts on the other BUSA WWI planes but not much on the N17. I've got my both wings and most of the fuselage framed up and the white tired wheels and a Vickers Gun from Williams Brothers arrived today. I'd like to hear from others on their servo and fuel tank placement.

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/8/2006 12:54:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I built one for another guy about four or five years ago so don't remember a lot of details. I suspect I put the tank right behind the firewall and the servos as far forward as possible. It was built per the plans except for pull-pull on rudder and elevator. It had a Saito 150 and still needed balast in the nose. It flew fine until totalled due to pilot disorientation.

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/8/2006 4:57:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm looking at putting in a subfloor to mount the tank on. I'm planning to use a 25 cc gas engine so the tank height is as critical as with a glow engine. I would like to have a seat and at least a pilot bust. This would lead placing the servos lower in the fuselage than is shown in the photos in the manual. I'm okay with using a standard servo for each half of the elevator but is a single standard servo as shown adequate for the rudder?

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/19/2006 3:05:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've made quite a bit of progress in getting it framed up down in my cluttered shop. On the whole, construction has been very straitforward. It is basically a stick fuselage and a couple of flat bottomed wings. I will probably use a 25cc homelite conversion for power. Only two complaints so far. There have been a couple of places in the instructions that I would have liked to have had a picture and the plans have some inacuracies. The rib spacing on the upper wing is not symmetrical and the parts for the rudder build into an item that is shorter from back to front than what is shown on the plans. For a sport model this probably isnt that big of an issue but if someone was looking for an entry level scale bird for competetion is could be a big deal. If I were going for scale detail I would probably just do a laminated outline for the tail surfaces. To give BUSA its due the quality of the wood is excellent. There aren't that many die cut parts (mostly wing ribs and tail surface outlines) but the die cutting is of high quality.
I also tossed in a pic of the William's Bros Wheels.

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/19/2006 3:13:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		More Pictures of the BUSA N17 in progress. I'm thinking of going with a color scheme from Escadrille N62. There is a really cool emblem of a red and blue rooster. Does anyone know if the squadron emblem was the same on both sides? Although it is an N24 I'm leaning to replicate the markings on plate 21 in "Nieuport Aces of WWI".

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/19/2006 2:35:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Matt, as far as the servo for your rudder goes,it wouldn't hurt to have a higher tourque one for it I have a 1/4 scale SR eindecker and I use a standard servo but my rudder has more in front of the hinge line and that helps.

Are you doing push rods or pull/pull?

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/19/2006 5:01:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've currently have about 25 flights on this models and four on another one that a buddy has. I have a quadra 23 on mine and the tank is mounted right behind the fire wall lenght wise.(20 oz) Rx 1400mah, ignition 1800mah, Hi tork pull-pull for rudder and indiviual pull-pull per elevator. Balance very important, fly great and requires rudder management. Side slips great in 12mph wind.

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/20/2006 3:40:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Photo taken by a fellow flyer on one of the first flights taking off

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/21/2006 1:46:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Terriffic looking N17. Did you use the BUSA decals? If so what did you think of them? What sort of finish did you use on the forward fuselage. I've read that the N28's used a masonite like material to cover the front of the fuselage but I dont know about the N17's. Some of the illustrations I've seen look like aluminum but it could be silver doped composite. Did you just use fabric up to the firewall? Many of the pictures show a clear change in texture just behind the cockpit. I suspect that the front covers overlap the fabric attachment Given that this is just a sport model I would like to replicate the effect but still keep it simple.

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/21/2006 3:25:11 PM   
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Yes I used BSA decals and as a rr modeler used to doing decals these were among the worst I have encountered. Good print quality, but very thin film. I even pre sprayed the decal with a gloss fixative to try an hold the decal film together. Put them down correctly the first time and DO NOT MOVE. I also brushed (lightly) solve set on top of the decal which helps them settle into the contours. Covered with Koveral and nitrate the spray with luster coat aluminum(was able to do outside), any color was done with Nelson water base urathane. I Used their aluminum cowl and fabric to the firewall. If my memory is correct this plane did not have an aluminum other then the inspection plates. Used a wire brush in a dremel to give the look.
Hope this helps!
Jay

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/21/2006 3:45:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Matt,
Was able to up load another pic. Hope this helps?

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/21/2006 6:51:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info. I had concerns about the water slide decals due to the size of the decals. I may just paint my insignia. I painted the roundels on my BUSA Bristol MI and they came out good enough to pass at 10 ft. I will probably order an aluminium cowl when I order my covering. I'm planning to use the plastic cowl to establish the location of the cutouts. Right now I'm working on the installation of the upper wing. I had intended to buy an incidence guage during my last visit to my LHS but forgot to put it on my list and the shop is a 2 hour round trip away. I'll just have to check the incidence using levels and a slice of balsa cut to a known angle.

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RE: BUSA Nieuport 17 - 12/21/2006 8:36:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Feep,

You have MUCH more confidence in EZ Connectors than I do.


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