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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 1/11/2008 12:29:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pcoronaf

jtspin,

Fist of all, the main blades are spinig clockwise (to the right) viewed from the top.

At least the blades are spinning the right direction.

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when i move the throttle stick up, the swash plate goes down, so the blades instead of gaining angle looses it. i done this using the throttle stick and with the PIT knob, +(more) pitch swash plate goes down(get -- angle), -(less) pitch swash plate goes up(get / angle).

These two sentences contradict each other. When the swash plate moves down, the blades should gain pitch (\ angle). Are you saying that with the throttle all the way up you only get a flat pitch (-- angle)?

It sounds like you either need to adjust the lengths of the linkages or adjust the knobs. Since it sounds like the knobs are affecting the pitch, I guess you've switched DIP switch 8 on the back of the Tx to UNLOCKED. Try this - with the Tx on and the switch in the N position (and the motors disconnected) put the knobs both in the center (12 o'clock). Move the throttle stick to its center position (halfway up). The blades should be pretty flat (-- angle). If they aren't, try adjusting the PIT knob until they are. While you're doing this, look at the head of the helicopter so you can see the interaction between the swash moving up and down, the movement of the head, and the pitch of the blades. The blue metal T-shaped holder shouldn't move at all (if it does, that's a problem). Above the blue metal part is a black plastic "flybar connector holder". That piece slides up and down on two pins. When it's touching the blue metal piece, you've reached maximum positive pitch on the blades. Adjust the PLT knob so that when the throttle stick is all the way up, the flybar connector holder just touches the blue T-shaped holder.

Now look at the pitch of the blades with the throttle stick all the way up and the flybar connector holder just touching the T-shaped holder. If it's still flat and not like this \ you'll need to start adjusting the lengths of the various links.

Let's start here and see how it goes. If it's still not giving positive pitch, we'll start messing with the lengths of the links. By the way, with both Tx sticks centered, the swash plate should be pretty level front to back and side to side. If it's way off, some of the links will have to be adjusted.

Hope this helps!
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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 1/12/2008 8:57:14 PM   
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I just ordered an Eagle 50, in fact it just shipped yesterday. I'm wondering where do you get these heatsinks,,, brand, size etc.? Also, are they easy to install?

Oh yeah, any tips for the "almost rookie"

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 1/12/2008 8:58:15 PM   
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I just ordered an Eagle 50, in fact it just shipped yesterday. I'm wondering where do you get these heatsinks,,, brand, size etc.? Also, are they easy to install?

Oh yeah, any tips for the "almost rookie"

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 1/13/2008 2:39:26 PM   
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Just about all the RC companies sell heat sinks... they are easy to put on.
These guys have been pretty good fast shipping as your 50 is in the mail..
https://www.helidirect.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=heat+sink&x=0&y=0

Two types will fit your model...
top of page...
HDX Jumbo Blue Main Motor Heat Sink - Blade CP/CP2 main motor
HDX Jumbo Blue Tail Motor Heat Sink - Blade CP/CP2 tail motor

bottom of page
Main Motor Heatsink: BCP, BCPP [EFLH1132]
Tail Motor Heatsink: BCP, BCPP [EFLH1131]

I have both types... couldn't really tell you which one works better.
The bottom page ones look smaller and that's what I am using now.
Bigger isn't always better (top page ones).
The bottom page ones will fit Walerka 22E replacement tail motors and the Eagle 50 tail motors
while the top page ones won't fit the Walkera 22E replacement tail motors.

Don't forget to take off the sticker on the main motor when putting on a heat sink.
Use heat sink compound (Radio Shack)... don't use tons of heat sink compound
and don't get it on other electronics.

And you might want to try reading and searching in this forum specifically for
Exceed Helicopters Eagle 50 et al...
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/forumid_473/tt.htm

And above all practice, practice, practice with a flight simulator...
and here is some info I put together with some You Tube videos for beginners.
http://www.atlanticbreezes.com/helicopters/






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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 1/14/2008 12:30:52 AM   
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Either that or he has the blades on backwards. i am looking at mine now. cant see any possible mistaken head configuration that would work to make that happen.

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 1/17/2008 2:57:10 PM   
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Hi all hope you are doing fine. Does any one know the specs. on the main motor what kv rating or what brushless motor and esc will work on my eagle 50. Thanks in advance for the help.
I have learned a lot on this forum it and its members are great Thanks for the info. in advance Rick

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 2/3/2008 10:28:39 PM   
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Ok here we goooo...

Now about a week ago I crashed my Little Eagle 50 and I finally got around to ordering my new parts from www.wonderhobby.com which is also where I bought the 50 from. I was sitting at the table just a bit ago and decided I would start taking the Broken pieces off. Well to my surprise, the Tail Boom (Which is one thing I broke) is such a pain to get off and maybe it is just me, but the wire connector does not fit very well through the Tail Boom tube, so I had to take a Razor and shave off the edges of the Connector to get it to fit through. Now maybe I didnt do everything right, and maybe there is an easier way, but I finally got the Boom off and I am just awaiting to get my new ones (Yes I ordered 2 Booms, and about $40 worth of other stuff).

Before I crashed it a week ago, I had it off the ground about 3-4 other times and I have not (Knock on wood) had any problems with the Heli. My motors sounds and seem to be running very well, I have not seen any problem with not being able to get Lift.

I am also getting ready to do a nice new Paint job on the canapy and I am wondering if it would hurt anything to airbrush the Tail boom a different color. Didnt know if it would cause a weight problem, or balance issue.

Thank you guys very much for making this thread, cause I honestly didnt think that anyone out there had boughten this Heli and sure that no one was flying it.

Dan

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 2/4/2008 12:57:22 AM   
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Has anyone tried to run the 22E blades on the Eagle 50? I am thinking about getting a couple sets of 22E blades and also a Head Set that says it is for the 22E. Will these items work on the 50?

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 2/4/2008 2:12:07 AM   
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I have a metal upgrade on the way I was told by Andy that this would fit the eagle 50 the blades look the same but I have not tried them. hope this helps and happy flying Rick

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 2/4/2008 4:16:36 AM   
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Ok I guess maybe I am just skeptical, I decided to look at the blades a little more intently, and here is my new question. The Eagle 50 blades look to be 275mm which = 550mm. Now I was looking at the 22E and the Blades are 258mm which = 516. Now this to me would say that the 22E Blades are about 34mm shorter then the Eagle 50 blades.

Ok just checked the specs on both Helis and they both say that thier Main Dia. is 550mm, yet the blades I am looking at buying bulk is 258mm per blade. Hmmm guess they arnt for either, yet they say that they are for the 22E.

I dont know if I have made an sense what so ever, but if someone could help me figure this out, I would be grateful...

Dan

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 2/4/2008 8:48:28 AM   
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The Eagle 50 is a rebadged 22E, so anything that says it will fit the 22E will fit the Eagle 50. Maybe the blades you're looking at say they'll fit the 22E, but they aren't really the stock 22E blades?

-JT

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 2/4/2008 3:14:58 PM   
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...but the wire connector does not fit very well through the Tail Boom tube, so I had to take a Razor and shave off the edges of the Connector to get it to fit through...


I think most people unsolder the wires from the motor and pull it through the other way. Then the conector doesn't have to go through the boom.



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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 2/5/2008 4:35:51 AM   
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Yeah I thought about doing that as well, BUT I conviently could not find my Solder Iron and I didnt feel like tearing up 5-6 boxes trying to find it, but yes that would have been a very smart thing to do, instead of the nightmare I had to do. thanks...

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 2/7/2008 5:52:45 AM   
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Well I am asking again if anyone has installed the Metal head upgrade from the 22E to the Eagle 50? I am really wanting to buy one and install it, but I would like confimation that it did fit seamlessly and works and flies NICE...lol I know that is a tall order or question, but I could have sworn that someone had said they had installed it, or was working on it? Please let me know how things are. I have seen the upgrade available via Ebay and it seems reasonable.

Thank you very much fellow 50 owners

Dan

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RE: Exceed RC Eagle 50 - 2/7/2008 10:57:56 AM   
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dvanackerHeli:

Read everything here....
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3722641/tm.htm



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