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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/26/2007 4:52:15 AM   
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Thanks for the info. I cut out the spinner like you guys have mentioned and it appears to be ok. I may get a Dave Brown spinner if the one I cut out is no good though. I just do no feel like remounting the engine at this time. I have had to rebuild 4 planes and a heli becuase a pipe busted in my basement a couple of months ago and I just want to get these planes built. Once again thanks for all the help.


Tom

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/26/2007 8:36:24 PM   
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I have run into another problem with the spinner backplate. The hole is too big for the shaft of the motor and there is no bushing in the kit. I called hangar 9 and they said that the included spinner was for display only. I informed them that this is wrong and that the supplied spinner could be used for flight or static display. The rep said that I should go to a machine shop or something like that. Did you guys have the same problem? ALso, can I just find a bushing that centers the spinner backplate or do I in fact, need a new spinner all together. I am using the recomended SAITO 1.80 motor. Thanks.

Tom

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/26/2007 10:47:02 PM   
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I have run into another problem with the spinner backplate. The hole is too big for the shaft of the motor and there is no bushing in the kit. I called hangar 9 and they said that the included spinner was for display only. I informed them that this is wrong and that the supplied spinner could be used for flight or static display. The rep said that I should go to a machine shop or something like that. Did you guys have the same problem? ALso, can I just find a bushing that centers the spinner backplate or do I in fact, need a new spinner all together. I am using the recomended SAITO 1.80 motor. Thanks.

Tom


Tom,

I agree with the H9 guy that this should be a display spinner, only, regardless of what the manual implies.

It's way too thin and weak to handle the dynamic loads at 9000 rpm, and the first time you nose over, and you will, it'll dent!

I dropped mine on indoor/outdoor carpet (no padding) in my basement workshop and the rounded nose easily dented inward about 1/8 of an inch. I'll pop it back out and probably have to repaint it for future display use.

Buy a Dave Brown for $50. Paint it with self-etching primer and H9 Cub Yellow paint. The plane is worth it!

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/27/2007 12:15:01 AM   
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THanks I think that is what I'll do. This is the first thing that Hangar 9 has been crappy about. You buy a 600.00 airframe and another 350.00 on a motor that they recomend, and the spinner does not work. Oh well, it could be worse. At least the construction of this plane seems to be very solid. Thanks for all your guys' help.

Tom

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/27/2007 3:41:29 AM   
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I give Hangar 9 credit for wanting to provide a scale propellor and spinner with the kit, for static display purposes. After all, that huge 4-blade prop is one of the most prominent characteristics of the big muscle bird, and it really does look kinda funny with that enormous spinner and two bitty little blades sticking out. They even threw in two underwing bombs, to further enhance that macho look. But I wonder how often guys will be willing to pull the flying prop and spinner off and replace it with the static display spinner, except for rare occasions like shopping mall expositions, etc. Even so, it is a nice touch to what looks like a fine, fine kit.

I will be ordering a Dave Brown 5" parabolic for mine. I just know I'm going to end up with the nose in the turf some time.

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/27/2007 3:46:44 AM   
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While your at it ditch those vac formed exhaust manifolds and order you a set of Tony Howard (Pacific Aircraft) manifolds. They aren't operational(you can use them for cowl cooling) but they are sweet. Just take your time and follow the detailed directions he sends. Don't ask how I know.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=247160

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/27/2007 4:03:20 AM   
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Reincarnate,

Tony and I have already been talking... looks like a product I couldn't pass up, with everything else so top drawer on this model. Slick little add-on he's got there.

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/27/2007 5:58:04 PM   
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Hi guys - Bo thought you all might be interested in the engine installation on my original H9 150 size P51 which I posted on that forum. The three photos show the installation which consists of the Saito 180, Solo 4 bladed variable pitch prop, the Dave Brown spinner - note the fine line machined into the spinner between blades simulating the full scale production break, and the fully functional scale Keleo exhaust system.

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/29/2007 1:00:00 PM   
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The spinner supplied with the Hangar 9 P-51 (new version) looks to be the same as the old Zinger spinners.

If cut correctly and installed using the supplied screws, they will work just fine.

Just don't tighten the bolts too tight or they will strip the backplate.

The fix for that is to take the spinner and backplate off the engine and use blind nuts installed "backwards" on the rim of the backplate.

Tighten the bolts tightly and tack the blond nuts into place using a drop of thin CA.

Remove the bolts and epoxy the blind nuts to the rim being careful not to get epoxy in the bolt holes.

I used a brass tubing spacer over the prop shaft that fits the hole in the backplate.

Cut it to about 1/4" long and it'll align the spinner and not interfere with the back of the prop.

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/30/2007 1:36:26 AM   
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Spitpilot, that's a fine bird you've built. Did you put the break line in that spinner yourself? Mine is still on the bench with details trying to emerge from my limited artistic and building skills. I just wish that it was summer and I was at the field flying instead of being where the wife can holler that I've spent enough time in the shop...you know what I mean. Anyway here's some in progress pics of Tony Howard exhaust manifold. This is how far I got tonight before the hollerin' started. Just kidding, she's due to be canonized next week.

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/30/2007 10:33:06 AM   
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rip n bank, whats the advantages of the keleo pitts over the regualr muffler from saito? jsut that i just got my 220 and will start ythe build soon.

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/30/2007 2:03:28 PM   
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reincarnate -

I am trying to figure out how I'm gonna route/connect all the linkages on my Evo35 and I was wondering if you could post a few more pic's of your engine compartment so I could get a better idea.

Thanks
san

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RE: New Hangar 9 1.50 P-51 Build - 1/30/2007 2:29:02 PM   
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REINCARNATE,
I ALSO WENT WITH THE TONY HOWARD MUFFLER FOR THE 51. YOURS LOOKS GREAT. Did you have to use filling like the instructions call for to fill around where the shroud meets the fuse? what colors did you use for painting? I've got the 220 Saito mounted up. Had to move the engine mount holes back in slightly. I ordered the Dave Brown 5" spinner, got it last night but they sent me the wrong adapter kit. It needs the extra long jam nut to receive the allen head bolt from the spinner. I got the ailerons, flaps and elevators all hinged up this weekend. Time to start installing servos and retracts. I'm also going to use screws to install the