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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/22/2007 2:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		well the way to go is 9=7 3 blades on gms 32s,plane flew great with them ,still flys at half stick but more scale speed. engines are not strainng at all.It did cause more torque to the left on taxi and take-off. the c.g. is right on the money but needs some weight in the nose to hold it down harder on the nose gear it would bounce up and down and did not want to turn. i had 6oz. at first to bal. perfectly but added 3 oz more today. that seems better the nose will almost stay on the ground with wings off as before would do back to tail.i am gong to fly it again sunday to see how it does ,will post results. randy

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/22/2007 9:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		My Herk is ready to fly I, but I am having trouble keeping all four turning. They idle okay, but will not transition to high throttle without stopping sometimes. I haven't tried the OS A3 plugs yet. Will try that next. Jerry

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/24/2007 5:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		jerry, that was what mine did also. put the 3s in and you may have to lean the low end down a little.. now for the next problem,the leaf springs on the reatacts were it is spot welded will break off it happened to mine sunday right before lift off and i did a nascar 360 down the runway. no big damage just a pain in the ya ho. drilled the springs and put 2 4-40 bolts and nuts on them.also the extra weight in the nose took care of the taxi problem. randy

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/24/2007 5:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I looked at this for a project like many of you out there. You really have to wonder about the quality of this ARF when the aircraft is $449.99 and the retracts are $359.99.

Wouldn't it be more satisfying to build a kit, rather than just install a couple servos and a receiver?

Just curious...

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/24/2007 6:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		if i would have known about all the promblems and poor quality of this plane i would have not gotten it. i would not advise anyone to buy one unless you really like a good challenge and your temper pushed to the edge.i must say it looks great in the air and flyes really well. in its defense.

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/25/2007 2:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey guys .if you want to see what i mean about the voodo curse on these planes go to trentonrcflyers.com click on video clips and watch my c-130 loose both main gear at the same time on takeoff roll and do a nascar 360. i would highly recomend anyone with the retracts to check the weld on the leaf spring and drill it and put 4-40 bolts in to hold it . the bolts only need to be quarter in. long. later randy m

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/25/2007 3:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Randy---thanks for input. Good video---thanks. Sorry about your retracts. I don't have that problem---no retracts on mine. I put in the A-3 plugs and have excellent operation on all four. Top RPM around 11,000---idles nicely at 3,000. I also added the weight to the nose just like you did, with exactly the same results----rests very lightly on the nose wheel with no wings attached. Total weight 17.5# Test hop Thursday---wx permitting. Jerry

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/25/2007 3:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		sounds great jerry keep me posted,hope these inputs helps, so nobody has to endure the hell i went with mine. randy

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/25/2007 4:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Randy, what up…

Man, that video put the Boo in me for a second. I thought you lost an engine but it was your gear. And man was it moving on the ground or what? That Bad Boy was flying on the ground—I’m convinced that my .25s will be enough for it and at a slower pass.

I’ve been simply reading all of you guys, stories before I begin the build on mine—but I’ve so many freakin’ planes in their boxes that it ain’t even funny. Try this list out for size—plane + engines, servos, retracts, bla, bla, bla:

KMP B-25
KMP Cessna 337
Hangar 9 P-47D 150
Hanger 9 Super Cub
Richmond Long EZ 160
Richmond Lighting Dart
Great Planes Gee Bee
AMC C-130
Yellow Aircraft F-15 Turbine (yeah, baby)

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/25/2007 5:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		it is not lacking on power at all,that was not full power then!I am just glad it did not do any damage other than a broken prop. randy

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/26/2007 11:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		It flew-----for awhile. Takeoff and climb out was picture perfect. It flew beautifully at half throttle, and only required one click of right trim and two clicks of down trim to maintain a perfect level flight. The sound of all four turning was awsome and it was a beautiful sight against the blue sky. After 5 minutes of perfect flight, I set up for a landing. On the turn to final approach, the left wing dropped abruptly and it veered sharply to the left. I presumed an outboard engine had quit and reduced the throttle to idle, but it continued in a "death spiral" and although I had time, I could not stop the dive or bring the wings level. The consenus of all the expert eye witnesses, was that the airplane was flying too slow in the turn and stalled. As much as hurts me to admit it, I agree with them. Once it stalled, the recovery shoud have been add power and down elevator to increase flying speed---- I did exactly the opposite----reduce the throttle and pull the stick back. Maybe if I had pulled a stall series at high altitude, I would have discovered this trait and been better prepared for it on final. A more experienced or better pilot may have been able to save it. RIP------
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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/26/2007 11:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jerry, Jerry, my Brother

Mannnn! I am all messed up and feel your pain for your baby. The same thing or other happened to me on the maiden flight of my Gee Bee. It flew great for minutes on end and I got disorientated; thought it was inverted when it was not; the paint scheme is the same on both sides of the wings.

Anyways, back to you—you know, you are the Man—it takes a real man to display your baby and give us the story. I/We know you cannot repair it’s plastic fuse, etc. I’ve had mine for two months maybe—intend to start on it tonight. Since you’ve been there and done that with it, if you’re up to it, maybe you’ll share some do’s and don’ts about the build.

Again, I feel your pain…

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/26/2007 11:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		jerry,i have been waiting for the report,but not that one i am so sorry i truly feel the pain because i know what a pain in the buttoks it is!!!! to build this voodo cursed plane!! I know what a real dissapointment this has to be with you. what next any chance to repair,get a new one or just forget it ?randy

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/27/2007 4:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		The wings, tail feathers and maybe the nacelles are repairable and there was no damage to any engine or any of the radio stuff, but no way on the fuselage. I have asked Hobby People for a price on a new fuselage, but they will probably want around 3 bills and I won't pay that much. For you lucky people who still have one or are building one---- Hey guys----sure it lacks a lot in quality and the instructions are a joke but I still consider it a good value. Where else can you get a good looking 100" ARF for $459 deliverd to your door. The airplane is an"eye stopper" and generated more interest in our club than any airplane in a long time. It is absolutely beautiful in the air and the sound of four engines are truly awsome. I believe that it does have a bad stall feature, but most warbirds are the same way. They all require you flying them until just before touch down and most are very unforgiving if you try to float them in at slow speed on landing. I am positive that the NTSB will credit this tragedy to pilot error (ie, dumb thumbs). I'll keep an eye on this post and wish each of you better luck than I had. Jerry in mourning.

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/27/2007 6:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		jerry i hope you can get a new fuse. your right the plane is awesome in the air and sounds great. i have been landing mine a little on the hot side ,sounds like i better keep landing it that way.sorry again for your misfotune and good luck getting it back in the air.randy m

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/27/2007 6:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK, I don't want to sound like a vulture but,...ifyou really want to part out the plane I would like to buy the aux wing tanks if you really want to get rid of them. Was a very nice looking plane. Sorry to see the loss.


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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/27/2007 7:01 AM   
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Sounds like you are getting lazy. Its only a simple fuel tank. Can't you build it???

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/27/2007 3:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Was going to use the 100" versions s the refueler pods on the outboard hard points, plus the way they are made they would be easy to remove for different flight configurations, And me lazy?!?! perish the thought,..........now where did that couch go to???hummmmm,..........LOL OFcourse I'm lazy


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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/28/2007 12:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hobby People said they had a fuselage with only minor damage they would give me free if I paid the shipping. Now how is that for a nice offer? The world may see my Hecules in air again----but it may be awhile. I am starting on a KMP Cessna 337 now with twin SPE 26 gas engines for power. Jerry

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/28/2007 1:16 AM   
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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/28/2007 1:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I’ve had mine built for over a month—yet to fly it. Had to add over a pound of weight to the nose just to balance it. I have two RCV .91s—I’m thinking of changing the front to one of my RCV 120SPs that I have for my KMP 25. I have two Zenoah G-20 gassers I may use instead. But the way to go is have a larger engine in the front—remember that.

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/28/2007 1:44 AM   
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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/28/2007 2:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mr DJ----Is there a forum on the KMP Cessna 337? If not please let me know how yours turns out. I am going to sand off all the pretty blue and gold paint----spray it grey---add Air Force markings and rocket pods and call it a Cessna O2A. I am flying an 80" Nitro Models O2A now, and it is terrific flyer (87 flights on it so far). I flew O-2's in Vietnam in 1970/1971. Jerry

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/28/2007 3:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mr DJ---There is a forum on KMP Cennas Skymaster. I just added a post. It would be neat if you could go there and post some good pointers to those of us who are just staring to build one. Here are some pictures of my Nitro Models O-2A. Jerry

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/28/2007 4:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Kool Beans, Jerry; I’ll go there (Cessna Forum) and see what’s up. Your Nitro looks kool. I almost bought one but a club member had a Nitro Zero or some type of war bird—it lasted a mere few flights—he said it was cheap, cheap. Anyways, I went with KMP’s version—I was excited as heck at first but now—I feel nothing—could be the RCV .91s—one of them keeps giving me problems—that’s why I haven’t flow it yet. I’m sure once I control the problem, get her in the air, I’ll be excited once again. But none does me like my F-15—that baby is sweeeeeeet! But tonight I’m telling myself to start the C-130 build—I’ve been flying her via Aero Flight Simulator—it too is sweet.

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