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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/8/2008 4:15:00 AM

randy m

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Hey Jerry it was great to meet you also.I had 2 very intrested buyers but they did not buy it.Thats ok I was not unhappy,I will just keep flying it for now and see what happens!! Good luck on your A 26.See ya Randy

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/24/2008 10:45:40 AM

Jimmy Bananas

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Randy M or Jimcork1:

Here is my problem...My beast weights in at around 22 Ibs...Have 2 OS 40 FS engines on the inboards and 2 Saito 30's FS engines on the outboard's..Will set the 30's about 200-300 rpm diff, and the 40's about the same...don't know what the differnce will be between the 30's and 40's, or if i can get them ( all four engines) to run 200-300 rpm within each other....May be barking up the wrong tree,but need some sort of advice so the beast may survive the first initial test flight....Need to break in the 40's first...30's are broken in...Will be using a paved runway 300' long...no problem there...Have a general idea on what I would like to have done with the rpm, but again any advice would be appreciated......Thanx again....................

PS: all engines will have an onboard glow system............

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/24/2008 11:01:54 AM

cobi.p

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hello jimmy
the answer is very simple , you must turn evry engine to it's best work alone without any ather engien runing .
it is not important the RPM of them , the reliability of them is very very important .
but first run and fly each and every one of them alone to see how they behave .
best of luck on your test flight , in this flight take out all what is no necessary and stay as light as possible .
cheers - cobi

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/24/2008 12:11:26 PM

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Each engine should be set as an individual for reliable power. Make sure that at full throttle each engine is at full throttle. If you tune them as you would a single engine with 200 rpm drop they should run ok. I highly recommend mix 1" of rudder with full aileron throw. This helps in turns and in engine out conditions. I also don't fly at full throttle. After level off I pull them back just enough to hear the engine change this lets them run a little cooler and more reliable. DON'T try slow flying around. This plane will slow very rapidly if you are flying slow and turn with a high bank. The fuselage gives lots of drag. Watch for any rapid turns you don't make. If you see this you probably have lost an engine. If this happens lower the nose and pick up speed and then use full power and FLY the plane where you want it to go. This will require using the left hand with lots of rudder. Land Immediately.

Landing on a paved runway will make it difficult to stop without brakes. I have done this many times and on the roll out I kill the engines and steer it off the runway into the grass.

Best of luck and let us know what happened. Jim

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/25/2008 2:15:31 AM

randy m

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Jimmy, I agree fully with running each engine one at a time. Get full power on mixture then richen it up .It is good you have on-board glow.Do not worry with matching rpm .Always keep good airspeed up no steep turns,keep a little power on when landing till touch down.Good luck Randy

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/25/2008 9:59:51 AM

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Many thanks to my fellow modelers who have advised me on engines rpm,etc for the beast.....am not going to fly the C-130 until everything is right....Probably the latter part of May...thanx again...

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/29/2008 3:45:36 AM

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i'M GONNA BUY ONE OF THESE, ANYONE KNOW WHERE TO GET THE BEST PRICE ON ONE?

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/29/2008 3:19:54 PM

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Sent you a PM.

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/29/2008 6:50:19 PM

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N215PB
Buy the one that RandyM has. Its for sale and ready to fly.

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/29/2008 9:44:02 PM

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Well I ordered mine today, and 4 OS MAX .25's. I've flown several home SIG KADET SENIOR conversions in 2, 3 and 4 engine versions on the OS .25. I would never even consider mounting them inverted in a multi engine model. The OS 25 is very very reliable, my KADET 4 engine was rudder only, flew great. From a pilots perspective, on engine out you use rudder mostly for directional control, aielron use only adds drag and since we don't know what VMC(minimun control single engine speed) is. My question is........can the engines be mounted right side up.............really don't care about cutting cowls up, rather have relaible. Next question, can the orange decals if they are decals be pulled off for a white aircraft so i can paint my own colors on it?
I read all the forums last nite, i decided to skip the C-130, today i broke down and ordered it, then i re read the forums and reviews and realize it may have been a mistake. I vowed never again because of poor service from operations like this and NITRO MODELS as i've had trouble before.. Oh well.....

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/29/2008 11:35:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: N215PB

From a pilots perspective, on engine out you use rudder mostly for directional control, aielron use only adds drag and since we don't know what VMC(minimun control single engine speed) is.

Just an FYI,, you do use rudder to correct for engine out, but you need all the control you can find to control engine out,, this includes as much aileron as needed to get the bird to turn,, even if you don't know what 1eomcs is.

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/30/2008 12:16:35 AM

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/30/2008 12:29:23 AM

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hello jimmy
the answer is very simple , you must turn evry engine to it's best work alone without any other engine running .
it is not important the RPM of them , the reliability of them is very very important .
but first run and fly each and every one of them alone to see how they behave .
best of luck on your test flight , in this flight take out all what is no necessary and stay as light as possible .
cheers - cobi

Agreed on Cobi on this aspect, i used to tune both engines separately on my B25 also and it worked out great for me until reliability started to become the issue due to air bleed carbs and had 2 crashes on it due to engine failures.

Cobi i have sold my big palmer B24 partial airframe but since then i got myself Kranz B727-200!, its off scale model but based on Norbert Rouch's B727!, once i get to it, i will be changineg whole cockpit section and number 2's engine intake duct before building it.

Regards,
Sammy

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RE: ASM C-130 - 3/31/2008 11:15:54 PM

N215PB

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il...............question..........can the orange trim on wings and tail be taken off easily...........is it sticl on or iron covering?

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/1/2008 3:32:35 PM

chrishwegner

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It is stick on covering for the orange at least. I'm not sure about the blue, I would assume it would be stick on also.
Sorry I misread your post. I had an extra fuselage that I tried the orange on. Then I realized that you weren't asking about the fuselage. I peeled a small bit of the orange from the stab and I got a thin clear film to come up but the color stayed on. I was able to scrape the color off with my knife blade.
Chris

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RE: ASM C-130 - 4/1/2008 3:44:47 PM

jimcork1